One gate submissions need to be removed ASAP

[The Relaxed Guy]

One gate submissions need to be removed ASAP

I honestly think they should copy and paste EA UFC 2's sub system to UFC 3, if it's not broken, don't fix it.

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The problem was that in a submission, the first gate was no easier or harder than the last gate. In a 5 gate sub, you basically get 5 consecutive opportunities to escape the exact same gate.

As a result, if you had good sub defense, you escaped on the first gate almost every time. So lots of subs were just ending real quick.

UFC3's idea of keeping your progress as you move to the next gate is cool. I like that they found a way to make submission a bit more of a struggle by making the first gate real hard to escape and the later ones easier. It can be used strategically to get better positions, etc.

The problem is the one gaters. They're way too OP under the current sub system.




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[mannyonelover]

Re: One gate submissions need to be removed ASAP

Hell they need to fix the AI subs first, still impossible to escape!!


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[AL1V3]

Re: One gate submissions need to be removed ASAP

i get that its annoying...but lets not pretend that 99.9% of FtF single gates actually get you anything but a win (****heads always dc when they get caught)...and in most cases, if you are aware of the ftf s.g. and they aren't...your prolly gonna submit them the regular way anyways (if thats what you're looking to do).

dnf's need to result in a time out imo.

[TheGentlemanGhost]

Re: One gate submissions need to be removed ASAP

Pretty sure I might have said this earlier, but gates in general need to be removed. It's the worse and most un-enjoyable sub system (or really sub transition system, since most the gates actually effect transitioning to sub position) in an MMA game. I think I've been seeing even less players even try for subs lately. In my 30 - 40 fights this season online, I think one opponent might've even tried one. It's just and awful way to implement subs in a video game.

[Counter Punch]

Re: One gate submissions need to be removed ASAP

Anybody know why The Relaxed Guy got banned?

[CAPTAINKUKAMUNGA]

Re: One gate submissions need to be removed ASAP

Pretty sure I might have said this earlier, but gates in general need to be removed. It's the worse and most un-enjoyable sub system (or really sub transition system, since most the gates actually effect transitioning to sub position) in an MMA game. I think I've been seeing even less players even try for subs lately. In my 30 - 40 fights this season online, I think one opponent might've even tried one. It's just and awful way to implement subs in a video game.

What would you suggest to fix it or what system from any other mma game would you prefer?

[TheGentlemanGhost]

Re: One gate submissions need to be removed ASAP

What would you suggest to fix it or what system from any other mma game would you prefer?

EA MMA's, lol I try to avoid constantly bringing it up cuz I ALWAYS do but since you asked...

It actually felt like a battle between JUST players instead of Man vs Man vs Machine, which I hate. So a sub could last just a couple of seconds or near a minute or so all depending on the state of the players health, stamina and ratings. We shouldn't have timed gates, each gate is approx 4 seconds long, so every sub lasts exactly as long as however many gates there are instead of just you and the opponent truly battling it out. We need it more unpredictable and more feel based instead of leaning on visual cues. Technically almost all submission are 4 seconds long since typically only the last gate is even the actual submission animation, which is pretty lame. I don't particularly care about losing the transitional animations and interactions if that had to happen. But on top of all that, stamina doesn't even drain DURING the sub in this system, but it was the key to subbing in EA MMA's system.

I particularly loved the choke sub system from the game...
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