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  • GameplayDevUFC
    Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
    • Jun 2014
    • 2830

    #46
    Re: The Input Lag on the game...

    Originally posted by MMA Damage
    Its kind of hard to take some people serious cuz some still don't even know the difference between 30fps to 60fps. Its pretty obvious there's a problem when a lot of people have the same complaint and most of, if not all of us played ufc 2.

    To sit there and just flat out call it a "myth" is a joke. There's complaints about this on reddit as well. Game changers will basically back whatever the devs say to not lose their privileges. So there's an obvious conflict of interest there.
    One person described input lag as being "more strikes came out than buttons I pressed".

    When the term has that broad an interpretation then of course it's going to look like everyone is having the problem.

    It's basically a catch all term for "I have a problem with the controls and/or online latency".

    What we need is a specific problem can can be reliably reproduced so it can be evaluated and fixed.

    And so far I have seen nothing that fits that description.

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    • chia
      MVP
      • Jul 2005
      • 1090

      #47
      Re: The Input Lag on the game...

      Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
      One person described input lag as being "more strikes came out than buttons I pressed".

      When the term has that broad an interpretation then of course it's going to look like everyone is having the problem.

      It's basically a catch all term for "I have a problem with the controls and/or online latency".

      What we need is a specific problem can can be reliably reproduced so it can be evaluated and fixed.

      And so far I have seen nothing that fits that description.
      Eh I thought my post was pretty clear. If it's online latency then that's not on my end and I have no control over that. It's not a problem with the controls or understanding combos on my end either. I don't particularly use the combos in the game because I'm typically trying to take the fight to the ground.

      If there isn't a "problem" then there isn't a problem and I'll just move on from the game.
      ilovejiujitsu

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      • MMA Damage
        Banned
        • Feb 2018
        • 161

        #48
        Re: The Input Lag on the game...

        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
        One person described input lag as being "more strikes came out than buttons I pressed".

        When the term has that broad an interpretation then of course it's going to look like everyone is having the problem.

        It's basically a catch all term for "I have a problem with the controls and/or online latency".

        What we need is a specific problem can can be reliably reproduced so it can be evaluated and fixed.

        And so far I have seen nothing that fits that description.

        Its a consistent issue. With over 1000 matches played on ufc 1 and ufc 2. Its clearly not as responsive as the first 2 games. Just throw in the game and hit a simple 1 -2 and compare the responsiveness from the press of the button to the game performing the command. Do it on ufc 2 and compare. Hell if you really want to, grab a 360 and also compare one of the older mma games. Because clearly there's a latency issue with the controls.

        Sometimes I throw a combination and press block for the expected counter, yet it doesn't come up on time. Just like transitions on the ground. Supposedly the grappling was not touched at all besides a few new transitions. On ufc 2 I could deny almost every transition and fake without issue. Here, even with how predictable most people are on the ground... my denials are probably 70% as successful. Transition fakes have my fighter sometimes just kind of get stuck and my fake gets denied or reversed.

        I'd like to think its something that can be fixed because this was not an issue in the last game. But you guys calling it a myth and writing it off like it doesn't exist is not very encouraging considering how many of us are talking about the same issue.

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        • GameplayDevUFC
          Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
          • Jun 2014
          • 2830

          #49
          Re: The Input Lag on the game...

          Originally posted by chia
          Eh I thought my post was pretty clear. If it's online latency then that's not on my end and I have no control over that. It's not a problem with the controls or understanding combos on my end either. I don't particularly use the combos in the game because I'm typically trying to take the fight to the ground.

          If there isn't a "problem" then there isn't a problem and I'll just move on from the game.
          If you only experience it online, it's likely online latency, and there is nothing I can do about it.

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          • chia
            MVP
            • Jul 2005
            • 1090

            #50
            Re: The Input Lag on the game...

            Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
            If you only experience it online, it's likely online latency, and there is nothing I can do about it.
            I get it in Single Player Ultimate Team also just not near as bad.

            The latency and online lag on the game seems to be ramping up lately but that's a constant freeze and then the words "Waiting for Opponent" whereas what I'm talking about LOOKS like the game is moving along smoothly when it's not.
            ilovejiujitsu

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            • a4einboy
              Rookie
              • Mar 2017
              • 68

              #51
              Re: The Input Lag on the game...

              Originally posted by chia
              Is driving me to the point where I want to break everything in my house.
              i know exactly what your talking about at times i can input a combo and after the combo i go to back away and a strike in input 2 sec ago comes out twice . we are telling the devs there is input lag with strikes and grapple but gpd is saying there isnt any....looks like were not getting it fixed. but most of the ps4 people feel the same about input lag . whats worse is inputting a combo that you regret and would rather block but have no choice but to get punished for the input lag

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              • chia
                MVP
                • Jul 2005
                • 1090

                #52
                Re: The Input Lag on the game...

                Originally posted by a4einboy
                i know exactly what your talking about at times i can input a combo and after the combo i go to back away and a strike in input 2 sec ago comes out twice . we are telling the devs there is input lag with strikes and grapple but gpd is saying there isnt any....looks like were not getting it fixed. but most of the ps4 people feel the same about input lag . whats worse is inputting a combo that you regret and would rather block but have no choice but to get punished for the input lag
                Man even if it means I ultimately have to quit the game for good at least I know I'm not alone and not crazy.
                ilovejiujitsu

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                • kush land
                  Banned
                  • May 2016
                  • 443

                  #53
                  Re: The Input Lag on the game...

                  The latency and online lag on the game seems to be ramping up lately but that's a constant freeze and then the words "Waiting for Opponent" whereas what I'm talking about LOOKS like the game is moving along smoothly when it's not.[/QUOTE]

                  I've had the same problem your talking bout where the game looks fine but its not everything you do is delayed a little bit and sometimes its so bad you cant play i thinks it just depends on the connection because its not always doing it

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                  • Benjy7
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 37

                    #54
                    Re: The Input Lag on the game...

                    Originally posted by kush land
                    You sure you're fighter can do those combos? ive also experienced what youre talking bout but the combos are a different problem i think
                    Yes. Its not only specific with this combo, it happens with other combos too. But i know my fighter can perform them because he does perform it sometimes but other times he just drops my input. I'll check to make sure but im pretty positive

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                    • JimboSlice
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 14

                      #55
                      Re: The Input Lag on the game...

                      I give up on this game, the devs act like they are clueless whenever a problem is mentioned. I just got a refund from MS after listing the bugs that currently exist. They did not hesitate to refund me.

                      This will be deleted no doubt but if MS are giving refunds 1 month later then something is wrong. In a months time the player base will be below 1000 players.

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                      • tekara83
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2018
                        • 105

                        #56
                        Re: The Input Lag on the game...

                        Originally posted by JimboSlice
                        I give up on this game, the devs act like they are clueless whenever a problem is mentioned. I just got a refund from MS after listing the bugs that currently exist. They did not hesitate to refund me.

                        This will be deleted no doubt but if MS are giving refunds 1 month later then something is wrong. In a months time the player base will be below 1000 players.

                        Have fun but im out.
                        As great as it would be to get a full refund, you are clearly lying.

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                        • kush land
                          Banned
                          • May 2016
                          • 443

                          #57
                          Re: The Input Lag on the game...

                          Originally posted by Benjy7
                          Yes. Its not only specific with this combo, it happens with other combos too. But i know my fighter can perform them because he does perform it sometimes but other times he just drops my input. I'll check to make sure but im pretty positive
                          Im not sure but i believe if you move in any direction it could stop the combo because moving changes the strike i have trouble gettin anything over 3 strike combos to work everytime i also notice certain combos are so FAST sometimes and other times there not the only 1 get full speed everytime is block there jab the jab not moving and rear hook not moving its so fast

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                          • AeroZeppelin27
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2017
                            • 2287

                            #58
                            Re: The Input Lag on the game...

                            Originally posted by aholbert32
                            I have issues with it at times with blocking but I chalked that up to my TV and the input lag that comes with it and the ps4.
                            I dunno, my TV/PS4 have never caused a lag like feeling on any other game.

                            But I've been having weird "lag pockets" in offline fights, where it feels like the game sim goes out of sync, the match will be going fine, then all of a sudden an tense exchange will go down and occasionally there is massive input delay or what feels like a weird synchronization issue, I've blocked an exchange and then thrown hooks I'd already thrown before the block without re inputting the controls,.

                            It's hard to explain, but it feels like the game occasionally lags out in offline fights when you and the AI are just toe to toe trading for ages, I've had sways, strikes, ect all play out up to 3-5 seconds after the input, if not longer.

                            It's not a common issue, and usually I find offline to be quite responsive, but there is occasionally an issue in there.. sonewhere.. something causes that desync

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #59
                              Re: The Input Lag on the game...

                              Originally posted by AeroZeppelin27
                              I dunno, my TV/PS4 have never caused a lag like feeling on any other game.



                              But I've been having weird "lag pockets" in offline fights, where it feels like the game sim goes out of sync, the match will be going fine, then all of a sudden an tense exchange will go down and occasionally there is massive input delay or what feels like a weird synchronization issue, I've blocked an exchange and then thrown hooks I'd already thrown before the block without re inputting the controls,.



                              It's hard to explain, but it feels like the game occasionally lags out in offline fights when you and the AI are just toe to toe trading for ages, I've had sways, strikes, ect all play out up to 3-5 seconds after the input, if not longer.



                              It's not a common issue, and usually I find offline to be quite responsive, but there is occasionally an issue in there.. sonewhere.. something causes that desync


                              I have a 4K Oled and those are notorious for having input lag issues. Especially the lg one that I have. The only way to fix it is to play in game mode which is less bright.


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                              • Benjy7
                                Rookie
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 37

                                #60
                                Re: The Input Lag on the game...

                                Originally posted by kush land
                                Im not sure but i believe if you move in any direction it could stop the combo because moving changes the strike i have trouble gettin anything over 3 strike combos to work everytime i also notice certain combos are so FAST sometimes and other times there not the only 1 get full speed everytime is block there jab the jab not moving and rear hook not moving its so fast
                                Wait... we cant move and strike? I thought that was the whole point of the new mechanics lol.

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