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  • magx950
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 72

    #226
    Re: Patch spoilers!

    Originally posted by chia
    The "hardcore community" called to do away with parries completely in the game lol.

    Letting a community dictate a none fantasy based game is just pandering for continued dollars.
    it's an everlasting excuse. especially when the so called "hardcore community" consists of a ton of people who know nothing about the actual sport.

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    • magx950
      Banned
      • Mar 2018
      • 72

      #227
      Re: Patch spoilers!

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      I dont know about the head movement spam being in the beta. I didnt see it on the lower levels and the higher level guys didnt see it either.

      Lets just compare this to other games:

      Undisputed 3 didnt get a single patch. Their planned patch only addressed glitches and did nothing for balance. It had a beta and that didnt stop the balance issues or glitches.

      https://forums.operationsports.com/f...d-3-patch.html

      EA MMA did get patched. What it addressed was small (when compared to what this EA team does) and primarily focused on balance. Fixing stamina, grappling and striking issues. There were 5 gameplay fixes there.

      https://forums.operationsports.com/n...patch-details/

      The reason for posting this is to say that there should be some faith in this dev team that they will work on the game and get it to a good place before they are done patching it. Theyve done it with past games and they will do it here. Just because you dont see a fix you want at day 40....doesnt mean its not coming ot that the devs dont care.
      Undisputed 3 actually functioned as an MMA game at launch effectively though. it also actually had fleshed out single player modes. Compare undisputed 3's career mode to EA UFC 3 and its just sad.

      I don't doubt that the game is gonna be way better 200 days from now. That doesn't change the fact that they're releasing games with blatant issues and then saying "yeah but we'll fix it later" as their excuse.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #228
        Re: Patch spoilers!

        Originally posted by MacGowan
        I know, it's just sad to hear it from a dev.
        No one cares about grappling in an MMA game?
        He isnt saying that though. He's saying that people dont seem to think grappling depth is a priority. If they did, they would be talking about it constantly.

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        • MacGowan
          Sassy
          • Jun 2017
          • 1681

          #229
          Re: Patch spoilers!

          Originally posted by jigsaw736
          some of you guys don't understand trickle down economics...

          if it the fixes and exploits can be fixed at the top 100 level, it will make the lower level player more enjoyable

          failure to fix problems at a high level, will result in a trickle down effect. I can go into a quick fight play against a div 2 player and see him doing the ducking and swaying because a high level fighter beat him with it. and they wish to replicate that.

          the game should be tuned perfectly or at least close to it before the devs should focus on new players or animations. you guys are crying over a body type or hair which has no effect on game play. those are easy fixes that can come much later.

          jigsaw736
          m.b.a
          2 time top 100
          The term "trickle-down" originated as a joke by humorist Will Rogers and today is often used to criticize economic policies which favor the wealthy or privileged, while being framed as good for the average citizen.

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          • MacGowan
            Sassy
            • Jun 2017
            • 1681

            #230
            Re: Patch spoilers!

            Originally posted by aholbert32
            He isnt saying that though. He's saying that people dont seem to think grappling depth is a priority. If they did, they would be talking about it constantly.
            let me rephrase

            less people care about grappling depth than care about dustin poirier hair in an MMA game?

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #231
              Re: Patch spoilers!

              Originally posted by magx950
              Undisputed 3 actually functioned as an MMA game at launch effectively though. it also actually had fleshed out single player modes. Compare undisputed 3's career mode to EA UFC 3 and its just sad.

              I don't doubt that the game is gonna be way better 200 days from now. That doesn't change the fact that they're releasing games with blatant issues and then saying "yeah but we'll fix it later" as their excuse.
              Oh no it didnt. There were disconnect issues all around. Grappling exploits. Visual glitches that were similar to what we saw in UFC 1 and 2. It had more depth when it comes to modes but those are the type of things affected by patches.

              Also every sports game studio releases games with issues and ones they plan to fix with patches. Thq did it. 2k did it. EA does it. The difference is this team doesnt just stop at 1 patch when it comes to gameplay issues.

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              • jigsaw736
                Rookie
                • Mar 2018
                • 349

                #232
                Re: Patch spoilers!

                Originally posted by MacGowan
                The term "trickle-down" originated as a joke by humorist Will Rogers and today is often used to criticize economic policies which favor the wealthy or privileged, while being framed as good for the average citizen.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics
                i appreciate you provided a source.. but anyone who has gone past 8th grade realizes wiki is not a credible citation.

                teachers won't even accept a paper with a wiki source.

                nonetheless my point stands if i see many people beating me with the exact same thing i will replicate it.. which in theory shows it has "trickled down"

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                • GameplayDevUFC
                  Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2830

                  #233
                  Re: Patch spoilers!

                  Originally posted by magx950
                  Undisputed 3 actually functioned as an MMA game at launch effectively though. it also actually had fleshed out single player modes. Compare undisputed 3's career mode to EA UFC 3 and its just sad.

                  I don't doubt that the game is gonna be way better 200 days from now. That doesn't change the fact that they're releasing games with blatant issues and then saying "yeah but we'll fix it later" as their excuse.
                  Hey, at least our game functions online.

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #234
                    Re: Patch spoilers!

                    Originally posted by MacGowan
                    let me rephrase

                    less people care about grappling depth than care about dustin poirier hair in an MMA game?
                    Yes but part of that could be that people think thats an easier fix.

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                    • magx950
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 72

                      #235
                      Re: Patch spoilers!

                      Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                      Hey, at least our game functions online.
                      that's the only thing it has going for it over undisputed 3. Maybe the striking if it ever gets balanced.

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                      • rabbitfistssaipailo
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 1625

                        #236
                        Re: Patch spoilers!

                        Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
                        I hate grapplers who make the game look bad by shooting for TDs non stop, over and over again with no setup, forcing people to tweet me with ridiculous TD denial stats and stamina values as evidence that the game isn't a good simulation.

                        This change is for those grapplers.

                        The grapplers who want to play realistically will get their buffs in due time.
                        I noticed that TDs are easier to stuff now . I'm more of a grappler when facing aggressive brawlers in my neighborhood here . But the strikers are catching up now here . Well we mostly play offline . So I only shoot for the TD after I've blocked a head kick .

                        Well it is what it is ...I believe the grappling will get the love it needs in between now and UFC 4 .



                        Sent from my Infinix Zero 4 using Tapatalk

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                        • GameplayDevUFC
                          Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2830

                          #237
                          Re: Patch spoilers!

                          Originally posted by magx950
                          that's the only thing it has going for it over undisputed 3. Maybe the striking if it ever gets balanced.
                          Then why are you playing it?

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #238
                            Re: Patch spoilers!

                            Originally posted by jigsaw736
                            some of you guys don't understand trickle down economics...

                            if it the fixes and exploits can be fixed at the top 100 level, it will make the lower level player more enjoyable

                            failure to fix problems at a high level, will result in a trickle down effect. I can go into a quick fight play against a div 2 player and see him doing the ducking and swaying because a high level fighter beat him with it. and they wish to replicate that.

                            the game should be tuned perfectly or at least close to it before the devs should focus on new players or animations. you guys are crying over a body type or hair which has no effect on game play. those are easy fixes that can come much later.

                            jigsaw736
                            m.b.a
                            2 time top 100
                            Yeah but that trickle down effect doesnt work how you describe it. Ive seen people try to spam head movement on Div 3 and 4.....and they suck at it. They are easy to deal with because they dont have the skills to master that cheese. So its less problematic.

                            The ones that are good at it eventually move up to other divisions. So they are no longer an issue for lower level fighters.

                            FYI, the devs who handle balance are the same ones who work on body types/ hair. Completely different groups.

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                            • magx950
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 72

                              #239
                              Re: Patch spoilers!

                              Originally posted by aholbert32
                              Oh no it didnt. There were disconnect issues all around. Grappling exploits. Visual glitches that were similar to what we saw in UFC 1 and 2. It had more depth when it comes to modes but those are the type of things affected by patches.

                              Also every sports game studio releases games with issues and ones they plan to fix with patches. Thq did it. 2k did it. EA does it. The difference is this team doesnt just stop at 1 patch when it comes to gameplay issues.
                              im talking about the gameplay

                              the gameplay in undisputed 3 was actually MMA gameplay. The takedowns felt like takedowns and had variety. You could pull guard. There was a wide array of striking techniques. the clinch made sense. The ground game was far more realistic and strikes actually did damage from there. the stamina system made sense.

                              it wasn't a perfect game and its online was absolute trash but the foundation of the game was 100x better.

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                              • GameplayDevUFC
                                Former EA Sports UFC Gameplay Developer
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2830

                                #240
                                Re: Patch spoilers!

                                Originally posted by aholbert32
                                Yeah but that trickle down effect doesnt work how you describe it. Ive seen people try to spam head movement on Div 3 and 4.....and they suck at it. They are easy to deal with because they dont have the skills to master that cheese. So its less problematic.

                                The ones that are good at it eventually move up to other divisions. So they are no longer an issue for lower level fighters.

                                FYI, the devs who handle balance are the same ones who work on body types/ hair. Completely different groups.
                                Yes, but the devs who handle balance have to wade through hair complaint tweets and threads to get to the good stuff.

                                So it still slows us down.

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