Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

[manliest_Man]

I just had a fight where i was Mac Gregor against Tony Ferguson.

All he did for 3 rounds was hold block, until i was gassed out by the 3rd round and his stamina was full, then threw 20 body hooks the whole fight and body KO'ed me. I had about 300-400 strikes in that fight, all head punches, about 150 of them landed in total.

The whole fight he was moving forward holding block, I was throwing Jab->Hook->Uppercut->Straight combos and Hooks and Uppercuts 4 strikes combos in general.

I was throwing them moving forward and pressuring him, moving away and sideways while he was pressuring me, all were completely ineffective.

UNless your 4th strike is a Head Kick, it's impossible to drop someone with 0 block.

Not one of them phased him. He was gettting rocked and i was getting gassed out throwing 4 strikes where only the 4th dealt damage, but it was never enough to knocok him down.

Whenever he recovered he went for body hooks, while i was gassed and was getting me constantly rocked.

I rememeber in the beta, people weren't walking you down with holding high block, because the 4 piece combos actually dealt damage and people didn't like getting hit by em.

P.S. something is broken with Tony Ferguson's Model that when you try and approach, if you land the jab, his head gets thrown back from the animation then the straight always misses.

[MMA Damage]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

I just had a fight where i was Mac Gregor against Tony Ferguson.

All he did for 3 rounds was hold block, until i was gassed out by the 3rd round and his stamina was full, then threw 20 body hooks the whole fight and body KO'ed me. I had about 300-400 strikes in that fight, all head punches, about 150 of them landed in total.

The whole fight he was moving forward holding block, I was throwing Jab->Hook->Uppercut->Straight combos and Hooks and Uppercuts 4 strikes combos in general.

I was throwing them moving forward and pressuring him, moving away and sideways while he was pressuring me, all were completely ineffective.

UNless your 4th strike is a Head Kick, it's impossible to drop someone with 0 block.

Not one of them phased him. He was gettting rocked and i was getting gassed out throwing 4 strikes where only the 4th dealt damage, but it was never enough to knocok him down.

Whenever he recovered he went for body hooks, while i was gassed and was getting me constantly rocked.

I rememeber in the beta, people weren't walking you down with holding high block, because the 4 piece combos actually dealt damage and people didn't like getting hit by em.

P.S. something is broken with Tony Ferguson's Model that when you try and approach, if you land the jab, his head gets thrown back from the animation then the straight always misses.

Using McGregor, threw 300 - 400 strikes, missed more than half and you're not supposed to gas? Stop punching nothing. Bet you probably walked forward swaying side to side and ducking too.

[nedreV]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

From what you say it works perfectly.
If you keep punching the wall, why do you expect to not being gassed?

[Dave_S]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

Using McGregor, threw 300 - 400 strikes, missed more than half and you're not supposed to gas? Stop punching nothing. Bet you probably walked forward swaying side to side and ducking too.

I suspect a lot of those strikes were against his opponents block, not "nothing". If you don't think high block is crazy just try paying attention to the meter for a couple matches.

It regenerates so fast.

Maybe it's a balance thing, but high block is crazy. I'd rather punch into weak block.

[goldbrg]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

I suspect a lot of those strikes were against his opponents block, not "nothing". If you don't think high block is crazy just try paying attention to the meter for a couple matches.

It regenerates so fast.

Maybe it's a balance thing, but high block is crazy. I'd rather punch into weak block.

The high block can be crazy but maybe use combos that don't solely target the head? The last time I ran into someone spamming the hell out of it, I just tried mixing up combos that ended with a body kick or leg kick and they eventually went for a takedown. It's pretty ****ty when you're being pressured like that and you're forced to move backwards, but depending on the fighter you're using, a straight into a body kick is money.

[MartialMind]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

I would really love to start seeing videos. Not saying I don't believe you personally, but having a video to watch, would give so much credence to your argument.

[SwordOfAllah]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

I would really love to start seeing videos. Not saying I don't believe you personally, but having a video to watch, would give so much credence to your argument.

Compared to UFC 2 block takes years to break

[MMA Damage]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

I suspect a lot of those strikes were against his opponents block, not "nothing". If you don't think high block is crazy just try paying attention to the meter for a couple matches.

It regenerates so fast.

Maybe it's a balance thing, but high block is crazy. I'd rather punch into weak block.

Blocking sucks but so does the stamina in this game. If your opponent just stands there blocking and you tee off on his block, you can stop regen stamina and continue cuz the block doesn't regen as fast as the stamina. If he can't fully break his block, obviously he's missing shots and to top it off he's not mixing up his strikes, just head hunting with Conor. Throwing 300 - 400 strikes in a fight and missing more than half is his fault.


And he's a Conor user, we know by now how they play.

[Nekrotik]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

It isn't overpowered in Ultimate Team.

I get hit with a 4-punch combo and my block is gone. All my opponent has to do is throw the exact same combo again and I'm rocked.

If I try to use head movement, even if I move in the correct direction to dodge the strike, I eat the combo and I'm rocked.

If I try back or side lunges, I eat the combo and I'm rocked.

Please do not change block, at least not in UT. You'll make it even more of a graveyard than it already is.

[TheJamesKraus]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

After the recent patch I have felt like the block is pretty weak... like a 1-2 seems close to breaking it. The new animation aswell where they turtle up like Diaz and then they are basically done if you connect with a big shot.

As Martial said, I would like to see a video of the OP block. Why would you throw 4 strike combinations anyway.. 3 is enough. You should only throw 4 when they are in a health event, I think that’s the reason you gassed because of your high output. If you landed 150 out of 400 strikes that’s 37.5% which is ridiculous.

[goldbrg]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

After the recent patch I have felt like the block is pretty weak... like a 1-2 seems close to breaking it. The new animation aswell where they turtle up like Diaz and then they are basically done if you connect with a big shot.

As Martial said, I would like to see a video of the OP block. Why would you throw 4 strike combinations anyway.. 3 is enough. You should only throw 4 when they are in a health event, I think that’s the reason you gassed because of your high output. If you landed 150 out of 400 strikes that’s 37.5% which is ridiculous.

I throw about 40 to 50 strikes per round. Throwing 400 is just insane to me.

[Nugget7211]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

After the recent patch I have felt like the block is pretty weak... like a 1-2 seems close to breaking it. The new animation aswell where they turtle up like Diaz and then they are basically done if you connect with a big shot.

As Martial said, I would like to see a video of the OP block. Why would you throw 4 strike combinations anyway.. 3 is enough. You should only throw 4 when they are in a health event, I think that’s the reason you gassed because of your high output. If you landed 150 out of 400 strikes that’s 37.5% which is ridiculous.

37.5% accuracy is actually fine from a realism perspective. Like, Bisping's career accuracy is 38% and Frankie Edgar's is 40%. It's not good or great, but landing 37.5% of your strikes it totally fine. It's the same way most good wrestlers only hit around half of their takedowns, like Usman hits 47%, Frankie hits 35% (skewed by Aldo fights, it's generally better than that), Hendricks hits 46% and Covington hits 53%.

[TheJamesKraus]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

37.5% accuracy is actually fine from a realism perspective. Like, Bisping's career accuracy is 38% and Frankie Edgar's is 40%. It's not good or great, but landing 37.5% of your strikes it totally fine. It's the same way most good wrestlers only hit around half of their takedowns, like Usman hits 47%, Frankie hits 35% (skewed by Aldo fights, it's generally better than that), Hendricks hits 46% and Covington hits 53%.

In one fight though?

My point was OP said he landed 150 out of 400 strikes which is 37.5%. Add to that he was getting his body worked and he wondered why he was gassed.. he was also using Conor McGregor against T Ferg lol.

The block won’t break if you are wasting/whiffing most of your strikes and you’re low on stamina. If OP has a clip of the fight that would be great.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

I don't know. When someone's block is depleted and I swarm at the right time, I feel like I can shred through it pretty well. I've also been on the other end where I'm just trying to survive and let my block meter fill back up because it feels every hit destroys it. I personally like where it's at right now. I find that mixing up the trajectory of my punches when I'm trying to break it helps a lot.

I know it can be frustrating when you feel like you should be able to finish a person sometimes, but it happens.

[neyney00]

Re: Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

I just had a fight where i was Mac Gregor against Tony Ferguson.

All he did for 3 rounds was hold block, until i was gassed out by the 3rd round and his stamina was full, then threw 20 body hooks the whole fight and body KO'ed me. I had about 300-400 strikes in that fight, all head punches, about 150 of them landed in total.

The whole fight he was moving forward holding block, I was throwing Jab->Hook->Uppercut->Straight combos and Hooks and Uppercuts 4 strikes combos in general.

I was throwing them moving forward and pressuring him, moving away and sideways while he was pressuring me, all were completely ineffective.

UNless your 4th strike is a Head Kick, it's impossible to drop someone with 0 block.

Not one of them phased him. He was gettting rocked and i was getting gassed out throwing 4 strikes where only the 4th dealt damage, but it was never enough to knocok him down.

Whenever he recovered he went for body hooks, while i was gassed and was getting me constantly rocked.

I rememeber in the beta, people weren't walking you down with holding high block, because the 4 piece combos actually dealt damage and people didn't like getting hit by em.

P.S. something is broken with Tony Ferguson's Model that when you try and approach, if you land the jab, his head gets thrown back from the animation then the straight always misses.

Wow well sure as hell don’t need players like you with infinite stamina. I can’t believe this guy even complained about this. Unbelievable.