Combo Spam

[davidwarej]

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He just said that it shouldn't be the only thing he should be looking at, don't overreact, lmao.

Lost cause bro. I mean they have to know the stamina is off. Dudes fight like their "finishing the fight" from rd1 - rd3 and no penalty.

[MaccaC]

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But you added a stamina penalty for missed sway strikes. I'm sure those same guys you talk about could throw bunch of sway strikes in real life without cardio worries as well. I'm sure Khabib can attempt bunch of takedowns in real life but you put a stamina nerf on that as well rather than making knees/uppercuts more punishing. You did them because they were forcing a specific playstyle and were unhealthy for the game.

How does Jose Aldo noticeably slow down in all his fights even though he is the one outstriking his opponents? Why did Yoel Romero talk about learning to pace himself so he wouldn't gas? For context, he threw 107 strikes against Whitaker and 94 against Derek Brunson. You watch ESFL nobody ever gasses unless they get knocked down a bunch of times.

Boxers and kickboxers throw a much higher volume than MMA fighters do. You'd think specialists are much better at countering high volume than MMA fighters. They throw at higher volume because those sports are more combo-focused than MMA and because they have shorter rounds and therefore more frequent rest times.

If you look at the high volume strikers in MMA (Nick Diaz, Holloway, Ferguson etc) all of them use lots of lighter punches, whereas fighters such as Woodley, Romero and Henderson have a much lower output due to their power. Guys like Aldo and Conor gas because they throw everything hard.

Everyone agrees that ultimately defense should be about reading your opponent and punishing them. I don't see the issue with making the initial stamina tax higher though. It doesn't hurt the competitive scene as the ESFL boys already fight a slower pace themselves. It just encourages the rest of us mortals to play the game the "intended" way.

edit: Obviously I wouldn't mind a change where counters become a lot stronger because it makes my life easier but that's also going to affect the competitive scene in possibly harmful ways. I think the stamina one is a relatively safe way of solving it.

Realism is not a good point of contention for video game balance.

[Phillyboi207]

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Realism is not a good point of contention for video game balance.

[tomitomitomi]

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Realism is not a good point of contention for video game balance.

Please spend less time eating your finest Middle Eastern gourmet and more time doing basic reading comprehension tests. I do not know how you manage to completely misunderstand everything we say constantly.

I'll put it in terms you can understand. GameplaydevUFC said fighters punch less in real life because of counters and not because of stamina. I said nuh uh.

Got it?

edit: Also you're just blatantly wrong lol.

[MaccaC]

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A gif you've truley sewn me up there.

Please spend less time eating your finest Middle Eastern gourmet and more time doing basic reading comprehension tests. I do not know how you manage to completely misunderstand everything we say constantly.

I'll put it in terms you can understand. GameplaydevUFC said fighters punch less in real life because of counters and not because of stamina. I said nuh uh.

Got it?

edit: Also you're just blatantly wrong lol.

I would love to see them add a "pure simulation/realism mode" for online and see the player numbers in it.

The first thing you should learn is that constantly saying 'reading comprehension' over and over again doesn't make you look clever and its not a counter argument when you get shut down.

The strawman shop is that way >


PS. I like how both of you managed to side step RetractedMonkeys actual footage and how to deal with spammers by proving yet more anecdotal evidence, maybe you should put down the controller and compile a very small book of UFC 3 sob stories because that's all any of you ever provide, don't bother replying to me until you have something worth while to SHOW people.

[Phillyboi207]

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Nothing to side step when his video had nothing to do with the main argument lol

GPD has already spoken tho so honestly the topic can die at this point.

[bmlimo]

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Realism is not a good point of contention for video game balance.

I think it’s simple... strikes on guard should consume more stamina... it would balance even more:

Combo should be:

Risks
Get countered
Get gassed

Reward:
Points for the volume
Get speed advantage on strikes
Damage
....

[tomitomitomi]

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I would love to see them add a "pure simulation/realism mode" for online and see the player numbers in it.

Reading comprehension, pal. Nobody is asking for a diehard simulator game.

The first thing you should learn is that constantly saying 'reading comprehension' over and over again doesn't make you look clever and its not a counter argument when you get shut down.

The first thing you should learn is basic reading comprehension skills

The strawman shop is that way >

Someone doesn't know what a strawman is. Doesn't come as a surprise from someone who struggles with basic reading comprehension.

PS. I like how both of you managed to side step RetractedMonkeys actual footage and how to deal with spammers

Reading comprehension, buddy. Nobody said that it's an unbeatable tactic. Go back and read the thread and work on your reading comprehension skills, mate.

His video was a waste of time. There ya go.

don't bother replying to me until you have something worth while to SHOW people.

I wish you bothered to read the comments you reply to, homie.

I originally created this account because Phillyboi posted a thread I disagreed with but we are capable of everyday social skills so we had a nice civil conversation meanwhile this thread is a complete clown fiesta.

Anyway like Phillyboiiii said there's not really much to add to the topic anymore. Pretty much everything has been said on it. If only everyone involved had read it though.

[Magx951]

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Realism is not a good point of contention for video game balance.

it is when the game is based off of real life martial arts with established facts

if the game actually represented real life MMA, it would literally be balanced by all accounts except salty neckbeards

[RetractedMonkey]

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On mobile and dont feel like trying to fix the quote boxes.



I’ll just agree to disagree with you. Your mind is beyond made up. It’s to the point where you’re making counter points to imaginery arguments.



I’m still gonna beat your *** in the game one of these days lol.

That’s the one thing I think everyone can agree on. There is literally nothing any of you in this thread could do to me in this game. lol

Others have tried to challenge me and you can still hear the ghostly clanking of their chains around this very forum. #BNM


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[Phillyboi207]

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That’s the one thing I think everyone can agree on. There is literally nothing any of you in this thread could do to me in this game. lol

Others have tried to challenge me and you can still hear the ghostly clanking of their chains around this very forum. #BNM


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Nah I’m coming for you. Working my way towards Div 5. Once Im hanging with those dudes comfortably I’ll be knockin you silly

[RetractedMonkey]

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Nah I’m coming for you. Working my way towards Div 5. Once Im hanging with those dudes comfortably I’ll be knockin you silly

LOL you’re “working your way” to div 5. I’ve been sitting comfortably there since the very first day the trial came out. I’d be in division 6 with my first but I like making new accounts to see how far I can get without losing.

This is a keynote on just how delusional some of you guys are. There’s just some mountains you can’t climb, son.


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[Phillyboi207]

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LOL you’re “working your way” to div 5. I’ve been sitting comfortably there since the very first day the trial came out. I’d be in division 6 with my first but I like making new accounts to see how far I can get without losing.

This is a keynote on just how delusional some of you guys are. There’s just some mountains you can’t climb, son.


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If you say so.

No excuses over here. You trashed me last time.

I’ll be back bro

Stay ready

[MaccaC]

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Reading comprehension, pal. Nobody is asking for a diehard simulator game.



The first thing you should learn is basic reading comprehension skills



Someone doesn't know what a strawman is. Doesn't come as a surprise from someone who struggles with basic reading comprehension.



Reading comprehension, buddy. Nobody said that it's an unbeatable tactic. Go back and read the thread and work on your reading comprehension skills, mate.

His video was a waste of time. There ya go.



I wish you bothered to read the comments you reply to, homie.

I originally created this account because Phillyboi posted a thread I disagreed with but we are capable of everyday social skills so we had a nice civil conversation meanwhile this thread is a complete clown fiesta.

Anyway like Phillyboiiii said there's not really much to add to the topic anymore. Pretty much everything has been said on it. If only everyone involved had read it though.

you must be a riot at social functions......wait Shotgunje is this you?

Less time complaining and more time playing might get you within touching distance of division 5 probably not though.

[tomitomitomi]

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No idea who that is.

Also, I already told my rank in this thread. You must've missed it (shocking!).