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  • bmlimo
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 1123

    #106
    Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

    Originally posted by Find_the_Door
    Same here but don't count on that with the "competitive" players like Kenetic pounding their fists on desks because they're not as competitive anymore.
    He will pressure like no tomorrow again...

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    • Find_the_Door
      Nogueira connoisseur
      • Jan 2012
      • 4051

      #107
      Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

      Originally posted by bmlimo
      He will pressure like no tomorrow again...
      It's absolutely killing the game. This is the closest we've been to an accurate simulating damage system that feels right. Now we're taking it away rather than addressing the stamina that would put it over the top.
      Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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      • bmlimo
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1123

        #108
        Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

        Originally posted by Find_the_Door
        It's absolutely killing the game. This is the closest we've been to an accurate simulating damage system that feels right. Now we're taking it away rather than addressing the stamina that would put it over the top.
        U know what I would love to see? Combo strikes speed based on the fighter speed like it was in all fighting sports game ... I think this would change dramatically the meta and the pace... skill would always overcome cheese

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        • Find_the_Door
          Nogueira connoisseur
          • Jan 2012
          • 4051

          #109
          Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

          Originally posted by bmlimo
          U know what I would love to see? Combo strikes speed based on the fighter speed like it was in all fighting sports game ... I think this would change dramatically the meta and the pace... skill would always overcome cheese
          The only problem I see there is then fighter selection would be even more limited. As if people don't already pick Dos Santos and Whittaker enough already.
          Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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          • Freshly Baked Gregg
            Pro
            • Jan 2018
            • 605

            #110
            Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

            In my opinion, the new damage system is a little too slow and could be increased slightly just because there’s an accelerated clock. However, I would not want this slightly increased rate of head health regen with the current stamina system, which is far too forgiving and allow people to absolutely lay it on to you. If the stamina system was changed, the new head health regen rate could be increased only slightly and it would be great.

            But for now, fixing the bug is the best option.


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            • bmlimo
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 1123

              #111
              Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

              Originally posted by Find_the_Door
              The only problem I see there is then fighter selection would be even more limited. As if people don't already pick Dos Santos and Whittaker enough already.
              But you could use your skills to overcome... time your attacks effective headmovement... right now if the guy throw a combo mashing the buttons like a MK brutality... u just have 4 options... sway the first and block, block all of them and pray for a non block break, sway the last and counter(the faster strike of all) and “run” literally combo is the safest defense of the game kkk

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              • Find_the_Door
                Nogueira connoisseur
                • Jan 2012
                • 4051

                #112
                Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                Originally posted by bmlimo
                But you could use your skills to overcome... time your attacks effective headmovement... right now if the guy throw a combo mashing the buttons like a MK brutality... u just have 4 options... sway the first and block, block all of them and pray for a non block break, sway the last and counter(the faster strike of all) and “run” literally combo is the safest defense of the game kkk
                No there's several ways I'd over come that. It's as simple as timing counters and creating space.
                Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                • Phillyboi207
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 3159

                  #113
                  Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                  Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                  No there's several ways I'd over come that. It's as simple as timing counters and creating space.
                  Creating space is way more difficult than it should be with these magnet punches.

                  Care to share video of you maintaining distance?

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                  • Find_the_Door
                    Nogueira connoisseur
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 4051

                    #114
                    Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                    Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                    Creating space is way more difficult than it should be with these magnet punches.

                    Care to share video of you maintaining distance?
                    I don't have one currently - I've had several high level players try to pressure me. The back dash works wonders. I also try to counter them and disincentivize them from moving forward at all.
                    Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                    • Solid_Altair
                      EA Game Changer
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 2043

                      #115
                      Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                      Originally posted by bmlimo
                      U know what I would love to see? Combo strikes speed based on the fighter speed like it was in all fighting sports game ... I think this would change dramatically the meta and the pace... skill would always overcome cheese
                      It wouldn't matter as much as it seems. The differences would have to be pretty big to actually allow differentc ounters to be used successfully against the same combo in different speeds.

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                      • Kenetic NRG
                        EA Game Changer
                        • May 2016
                        • 711

                        #116
                        Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                        Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                        Same here but don't count on that with the "competitive" players like Kenetic pounding their fists on desks because they're not as competitive anymore.
                        Actually, this most recent patch I’ve been the most dominant. Currently undefeated on Xbox.

                        I’ve actually been trying to show devs how exploitable the new recovery system was.. I wasn’t getting beat up and complaining, I was actually benefited by the changes and saying it was broken.

                        Believe it or not, I genuinely want the game to get better and don’t want it catered to any specific style. Many of the exploits that have been in the game were ones I first reported.


                        Idk what the hate is all about. I disagreed with your opinions on the new regen now you’re bashing me on Twitter and OS.
                        https://youtu.be/p1Idg-SItm4?t=2377

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                        • Find_the_Door
                          Nogueira connoisseur
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 4051

                          #117
                          Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                          Originally posted by Kenetic NRG
                          Actually, this most recent patch I’ve been the most dominant. Currently undefeated on Xbox.

                          I’ve actually been trying to show devs how exploitable the new recovery system was.. I wasn’t getting beat up and complaining, I was actually benefited by the changes and saying it was broken.

                          Believe it or not, I genuinely want the game to get better and don’t want it catered to any specific style. Many of the exploits that have been in the game were ones I first reported.


                          Idk what the hate is all about. I disagreed with your opinions on the new regen now you’re bashing me on Twitter and OS.
                          Not hating just saying how unfortunate it is that certain players have such pull in this community. Zombie is about the only one I agree with. I apologize for dragging you through the mud a bit - Monkey is about the only person I can't stand.

                          Sincerely do apologize though. Was just heated in regards to this change is all.
                          Last edited by Find_the_Door; 05-01-2018, 07:50 PM.
                          Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                          • Kenetic NRG
                            EA Game Changer
                            • May 2016
                            • 711

                            #118
                            Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                            For sure man, all good.

                            Something to know though, not any one individual has a ton of pull or more pull than anyone else. With the gamechangers, all the changes we each suggest has to be approved / critiqued by everyone else.

                            I can’t just say “Hey GPD do____”. I mean, I could but he would need valid reasons why and also agreement from the other GCers.
                            https://youtu.be/p1Idg-SItm4?t=2377

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                            • Abstrakt fists
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 369

                              #119
                              Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                              Originally posted by Kenetic NRG
                              Actually, this most recent patch I’ve been the most dominant. Currently undefeated on Xbox.

                              I’ve actually been trying to show devs how exploitable the new recovery system was.. I wasn’t getting beat up and complaining, I was actually benefited by the changes and saying it was broken.

                              Believe it or not, I genuinely want the game to get better and don’t want it catered to any specific style. Many of the exploits that have been in the game were ones I first reported.


                              Idk what the hate is all about. I disagreed with your opinions on the new regen now you’re bashing me on Twitter and OS.
                              I have to admit when I matched up with NRG earlier this season I assumed his record came from exploits. I was wrong! He uses movement, timing and combos better than anyone i have played. This patch plays right into his style and likely makes him more deadly than ever. He was never a sway spammer, he won off skill and that matters more now than ever before.

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                              • Rack Attack
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2018
                                • 64

                                #120
                                Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                                Originally posted by Abstrakt fists
                                I have to admit when I matched up with NRG earlier this season I assumed his record came from exploits. I was wrong! He uses movement, timing and combos better than anyone i have played. This patch plays right into his style and likely makes him more deadly than ever. He was never a sway spammer, he won off skill and that matters more now than ever before.
                                Lol he’s a bum that needs to team up with his 10 bum friends against ONE guy that he knows is truly better than him 😂😂😂
                                And that guy is Me 😏

                                NRG is trash. I own him and his whole crew, buncha lame bums 🤣🤣

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