With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

[GrindFactor]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

Hopefully with this health regen bug patched that be a big fix. I still think they need to do something about the block being so weak. Why on the feet can you break somebodies block with a few jabs and a straight... yet on the ground in full mount where you have the most leverage to throw the some of the most devastating strikes in mma, it takes a good like 10-20 punches to totally get through somebodies block and KO them? What sense does that make?

So they're basically saying you do more damage to the block with jabs then you do slamming down hammer fists and punches from full mount? That's a serious issue...

Health regen fix, good, that's going to help a lot as a bug is a bug. But doesn't matter if your block is continuously being broken down so easily on the feet. Yeah yeah "oh just use head movement". Right, okay because I'm neo from the matrix and I can predict and dodge every strike coming at me in a combo? haha. Come on.

Yes I'm getting better with the head movement, blocking the straight and countering, etc, being more patient. But against a serious pressuring fighter, especially a conor mgregor or something, they can still just spam combos and after your block breaks and you get rocked a few times, unless you're head movement is God like, you're going to get KO'ed.

I'm adapting to this new patch, I've won my last 15 or so fights but... I mean I've Ko'ed people with a jab.. literally, they had full stamina, I lunge back, jab and they're done..

There's a problem with this meta and I think those that like this patch or wherever GPD got his 90% of users like the patch stat, was from the average gamer who wants to just pick up a controller and have a slugfest. Of course, they want the game like that because it makes it easier for them. But actual competitive players, the player who want realistic online fights, do not like this patch.

That being said I know the dev's are working really hard and will find a balance eventually. But it's not now. They say they want to work on grappling next... I'd love that but the striking is far from perfect to the point where you can leave it where it is.

[ryan4889]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

LOVE the patch!!! EVERYTHING is awesome besides the health thing everyone is talking about...kind of easy to ko quickly, but SO many less cheeseball swayers.

[GrindFactor]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

LOVE the patch!!! EVERYTHING is awesome besides the health thing everyone is talking about...kind of easy to ko quickly, but SO many less cheeseball swayers.

Now we have cheeseball combo spammers. Was that really an upgrade...? IMO it was a lot easier to deal with the head movement spammers than it is to deal with the current combo spammers who want to just break your block and KO you in 30 seconds, which this game now allows to happen... I'm guessing you're one of those players, which is why you're soooo excited by this patch. Now you can button mash your way to victory! Yay!

[Phillyboi207]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

I'm sure what you're trying to say here.

Sorry

My point regarding #2 is that people will always complain when something is different.
A lot of people cried about KOs when UFC 3 came out because they were used to pillow fists in UFC 2. Doesnt mean the game hasnt gotten better.

My point regarding #3 is that GPD said the feedback his received thus far is 90% positive.

[MacGowan]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

Sorry

My point regarding #2 is that people will always complain when something is different.
A lot of people cried about KOs when UFC 3 came out because they were used to pillow fists in UFC 2. Doesnt mean the game hasnt gotten better.

My point regarding #3 is that GPD said the feedback his received thus far is 90% positive.

never said otherwise. I just pointed out 3 facts, and saying earlier that it will tie more dev time to fix point number 1. I haven't even tried out the new patch, so I can't say if it's bad or not.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

never said otherwise. I just pointed out 3 facts, and saying earlier that it will tie more dev time to fix point number 1. I haven't even tried out the new patch, so I can't say if it's bad or not.

Then I misinterpreted your posts. My bad.

I cant believe im actually going around defending this game after months of hating it lol.

There’s still hope that they’ll shift focus to grappling with only minor tweaks to stand up.

[GrindFactor]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

My point regarding #3 is that GPD said the feedback his received thus far is 90% positive.

Yeah sure but who did he ask to get that statistic? What kind of people was the sample group for that? Certainly not me, I wasn't asked. Most of the top fighters in the game, they weren't asked.

That 90% figure is all likelihood from a sample pool of casual players who of course love the new patch because it allows them to get KO's and win easier. Shrinking the skill gap a lot. Had he asked the majority of people that are in the leaderboards, this forum, I think you'd see quite different results... Just look at all the threads saying how many issues are with this patch and how it's strongly disliked by many. On this site, other ufc forums, youtube, etc.

I'll take that, what the people are actually saying over some random statistic GPD pulled out of thin air.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

Yeah sure but who did he ask to get that statistic? What kind of people was the sample group for that? Certainly not me, I wasn't asked. Most of the top fighters in the game, they weren't asked.

That 90% figure is all likelihood from a sample pool of casual players who of course love the new patch because it allows them to get KO's and in easier. Crushed the skill gap. Had he asked the majority of people that are in the leaderboards, this forum, I think you'd see quite different results... Just look at all the threads saying how many issues are with this patch and how it's strongly disliked by many. On this site, other ufc forums, youtube, etc.

I'll take that, what the people are actually saying over some random statistic GPD pulled out of thin air.

Here’s the thing. That “skill gap” before was artificial. A bunch of dudes that just knew how to sway strike. If anything being good now takes possibly TOO MUCH skill. You have to minor sway straights, back sway everything else. Lunges are also risky since you cant block.

The low skilled guys(me included currently) will have to practice or risk being finished since defense is a bit too difficult right now. The magnetic forward movement of combos is an issue. Jabs breaking block is an issue. Health recovery from KDs is an issue. Too much stamina lost for retreat movement is an issue.

So I dont think the game is perfect but it’s in a much better place before and a step towards realism.

[GrindFactor]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

Here’s the thing. That “skill gap” before was artificial. A bunch of dudes that just knew how to sway strike. If anything being good now takes possibly TOO MUCH skill. You have to minor sway straights, back sway everything else. Lunges are also risky since you cant block.

The low skilled guys(me included currently) will have to practice or risk being finished since defense is a bit too difficult right now. The magnetic forward movement of combos is an issue. Jabs breaking block is an issue. Health recovery from KDs is an issue. Too much stamina lost for retreat movement is an issue.

So I dont think the game is perfect but it’s in a much better place before and a step towards realism.

Yeah, I could agree with that. It's a step in the right direction sure. But all the issues you pointed out are pretty significant. If they are addressed properly, this patch will make striking the best it's ever been for sure. Keyword there though is "if".... :-/

[MacGowan]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

That 90% figure is all likelihood from a sample pool of casual players who of course love the new patch because it allows them to get KO's and win easier. Shrinking the skill gap a lot.

If that is the case, then GPD's smart. I don't think that is the case (but I'm sure he's a smart gentleman). Those are the people you want to placate. It's easy to pick up a game of FIFA. I want my casual MMA fan friend to go; "hey this game is pretty fun!" instead of me saying "hey you just gotta go look at these 3 tutorial videos, and then practise for a few hours, and then maybe you'll not throw the controller in the wall when you get transition denied to death".

[Poulpy]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

This patch is horrible. Out of 3000 UT fight, 2800 was competitive/challenging in UT.
Now out of 50 fight, 45 R1 ko, im disgusted.

Offline you can ko CPU in 60 sec and Never be in trouble because CPU pick his shot. online people already find a way to win faster. Nobody dont care about stamina, trow the same combo until you down for good.

I have to give up because i try to do the same and lose all the combo i working for stamina drain.

When a game make you hangry, thats no more a game.

And dont say me move your head, only few people on earth have these reflexe.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

This patch is horrible. Out of 3000 UT fight, 2800 was competitive/challenging in UT.
Now out of 50 fight, 45 R1 ko, im disgusted.

Offline you can ko CPU in 60 sec and Never be in trouble because CPU pick his shot. online people already find a way to win faster. Nobody dont care about stamina, trow the same combo until you down for good.

I have to give up because i try to do the same and lose all the combo i working for stamina drain.

When a game make you hangry, thats no more a game.

And dont say me move your head, only few people on earth have these reflexe.

Have you tried recording your matches?

You can go into practice and mimic the combos people throw at you. From there you can practice different ways to beat them

[Rack Attack]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

This patch is horrible. Out of 3000 UT fight, 2800 was competitive/challenging in UT.
Now out of 50 fight, 45 R1 ko, im disgusted.

Offline you can ko CPU in 60 sec and Never be in trouble because CPU pick his shot. online people already find a way to win faster. Nobody dont care about stamina, trow the same combo until you down for good.

I have to give up because i try to do the same and lose all the combo i working for stamina drain.

When a game make you hangry, thats no more a game.

And dont say me move your head, only few people on earth have these reflexe.

Only a few people on Earth? Lol come on dude, it’s not that hard to flick your thumb up, down, left, or right. That’s a huge overstatement. 🤣🤣

[SteveM584]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

I am still open minded, but for the most part I don't like it so far. Defensive options seem extremely limited and difficult when you have hyper aggressive power puncher charging at you with 1-2s.

I try to focus on timing the slip straight, but it doesn't do that much damage so they are not deterred, and if the timing is a fraction of a second off I get blasted.

Guys hardly bother mixing to the body anymore with the quick block breakdown and lack of recovery after a knockdown. Why waste time mixing it up when you can just melt block with combos and your opponent can barely counter anymore?

I am still playing trying to get better though. I hated the dancing head movement spammers so I am glad there was an attempt made to address that, I just think this may have created more issues than it solved.

[LarsP]

Re: With all the negativity, is there anyone who likes the new patch?

I think pretty much all the negativity comes from the people who play ranked. After every patch some cheese is removed, but within a day people will find new cheese or abuses.

I don't think it's worth the resources to always buff or nerf things when the ranked players ask for it, because they will find a way to just abuse the mechanics to get the W. That's what happens when people care more about their rank than they care about having fun fights.