Jab Uppercut Hook Hook

[BARIK_]

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One additional thing to add onto it. If you pummel for double unders and immediately go for a takedown after the transition people tend to fall for it thinking its the body slam.

Yeah, Im having problems with that. If the opponent pins me to the cage with a double, they can:
1. Go to double under.
2. Double leg takedown.
3. Slam while they are going to double under, but is just one sequence. How do I avoid that? They get me down like that 100% of the time.

[Solid_Altair]

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Yeah, Im having problems with that. If the opponent pins me to the cage with a double, they can:
1. Go to double under.
2. Double leg takedown.
3. Slam while they are going to double under, but is just one sequence. How do I avoid that? They get me down like that 100% of the time.

You can deny the immediate DU throw in the same direction to which you deny the DU transition. It is also the same direction as your OU transition, too, I think.

[Papadoc60]

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You can deny the immediate DU throw in the same direction to which you deny the DU transition. It is also the same direction as your OU transition, too, I think.

This is correct. Good grapplers will mix up the Bodylock High from the double leg/single leg cage position with the regular slams ( that are denied down like most takedowns unlike the bodylock ). They are kind of slow though, so you can deny these reactively in most cases once you get used to the animations

[BARIK_]

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Thank you guys, I knew I was missing something.

Im often on the deffensive end of those encounters, but I like it, it gives the clinch/grappling some new life.

I will try it offensively with Weidman, now that grappling is fun again.

About the original subject, and somehow related to this, I would argue that if someone just walks you down to elbow distance, you should get a free single collar. That would force strikers to maintain certain distance.

[FlaccoNumba5]

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You can deny the immediate DU throw in the same direction to which you deny the DU transition. It is also the same direction as your OU transition, too, I think.

Ohhh so it would be RT back not RT down? Bc that one always gets me

[Solid_Altair]

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Ohhh so it would be RT back not RT down? Bc that one always gets me

Yup. RT and to the same side of your OU transition. I don't think it is always "back", though. I think it depends on the fighters' stances.

[Counter Punch]

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How the hell do you block submission attempts from clinch (flying armbar/guillotine, etc)?

[UFCBlackbelt]

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How the hell do you block submission attempts from clinch (flying armbar/guillotine, etc)?

The same direction they are are used.

So for guillotine, down.

Flying triangle, up.

[Solid_Altair]

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The same direction they are are used.

So for guillotine, down.

Flying triangle, up.

I think flying triangle is down, though.

Flying armbars are up (at leats I think the one from SC is).

[RomeroXVII]

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Pick someone with good wrestling and a push kick. Hold your ground and block the combo til they back up or reset; then blast the push kick. As they’re staggering back to the cage, move in with an immediate double leg, to pin them in the “against the cage” td position.

From here, you have two options: immediately pummel to underhook(or hold LB for slam), or wait to deny their underhook and finish with the double (i prefer that). If you wait instead if immediately slam, there’s a 95% chance they’ll attempt to pummel an underhook. Deny this in the same direction *you* would need to transition to get an underhook (it shows on the grappling hud). After the denial, wait a second then finish the double leg with a slam.

Love this. I usually just pressure with leg kicks with Aldo to get the cage TD. Will try this as well.

[RomeroXVII]

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Thank you guys, I knew I was missing something.

Im often on the deffensive end of those encounters, but I like it, it gives the clinch/grappling some new life.

I will try it offensively with Weidman, now that grappling is fun again.

About the original subject, and somehow related to this, I would argue that if someone just walks you down to elbow distance, you should get a free single collar. That would force strikers to maintain certain distance.

Also, in boxing if you're too close you end up smothering your shots and taking away your power. Wish something like that was in game.

[Phillyboi207]

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Also, in boxing if you're too close you end up smothering your shots and taking away your power. Wish something like that was in game.

Yeah that’d be much better than the frame advantage for shorter reach fighters.

I think it applies to staights but it’d be awesome if it applied to all strikes

[RomeroXVII]

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Yeah that’d be much better than the frame advantage for shorter reach fighters.

I think it applies to staights but it’d be awesome if it applied to all strikes

I always hated it that Conor, despite having a 74 inch reach, does better on the inside than fighters with shorter reach. He does his best damage by keeping distance out of harm's way, and maximizing his reach. Not by being glued to your face and throwing 1 6 3s for 5 minutes (Inb4 somebody throws that gif of him throwing a 1 6 3)
Whereas if I play with Kevin Lee fighting a Nate Diaz, I really have to stay in range because then if I'm too close, due to the stat differences I can't fire off as quick as I'd like, whereas the Nate Player can.

I thought the game had it as- Jabs/Straights beat Uppercuts, Uppercuts beat Hooks, and Hooks beat Jabs and Straights. In reality it's about who queues their combo up faster.

Personally I feel if you throw faster, the power should be lower due to not having as much wind up. I try to keep a brokem rhythm when I do certain strikes since 80% of players just aim to queue combos faster than the other.

[MacGowan]

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Also, in boxing if you're too close you end up smothering your shots and taking away your power. Wish something like that was in game.

Not to mention the clinch

[Whiteshark209]

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How the hell do you block submission attempts from clinch (flying armbar/guillotine, etc)?

You’ve ran in to Brian Ortega haven’t you? I have to look up the same thing in practice but I do know the denial for the rear naked from back clinch. It’s towards your opponent. Would be the same for the transistor. In to back sitting.