Jab Uppercut Hook Hook

[RomeroXVII]

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Not to mention the clinch

Especially in the clinch.

[UFCBlackbelt]

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I always hated it that Conor, despite having a 74 inch reach, does better on the inside than fighters with shorter reach. He does his best damage by keeping distance out of harm's way, and maximizing his reach. Not by being glued to your face and throwing 1 6 3s for 5 minutes (Inb4 somebody throws that gif of him throwing a 1 6 3)
Whereas if I play with Kevin Lee fighting a Nate Diaz, I really have to stay in range because then if I'm too close, due to the stat differences I can't fire off as quick as I'd like, whereas the Nate Player can.

I thought the game had it as- Jabs/Straights beat Uppercuts, Uppercuts beat Hooks, and Hooks beat Jabs and Straights. In reality it's about who queues their combo up faster.

Personally I feel if you throw faster, the power should be lower due to not having as much wind up. I try to keep a brokem rhythm when I do certain strikes since 80% of players just aim to queue combos faster than the other.

Conor is simply overrated in this game, by its literal definition. His chin at WW is an insult to legit welterweights and even some of his featherweight stats need tuning.

I know people are going to stormriot me on this one but Conor is not an accurate fighter, it's just that when he lands his left straight he puts a lot of power into it and catches a lot of people off guard. Just because he says he is accurate, does not mean he is accurate.

Conor's striking accuracy is 47%. This does not even qualify him to be in the top 15 of accurate fighters, yet he has a 99 accuracy? Why?

What this means is that sometimes you can throw against Conor and even if your strike lands around the same time as his, you will still end up rocked. The only person who should be sporting a 99 accuracy should be a prime Anderson.

[Solid_Altair]

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You’ve ran in to Brian Ortega haven’t you? I have to look up the same thing in practice but I do know the denial for the rear naked from back clinch. It’s towards your opponent. Would be the same for the transistor. In to back sitting.

Yes. Same for that transition. I check it by the opponent's lead foot.

[Whiteshark209]

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I always hated it that Conor, despite having a 74 inch reach, does better on the inside than fighters with shorter reach. He does his best damage by keeping distance out of harm's way, and maximizing his reach. Not by being glued to your face and throwing 1 6 3s for 5 minutes (Inb4 somebody throws that gif of him throwing a 1 6 3)
Whereas if I play with Kevin Lee fighting a Nate Diaz, I really have to stay in range because then if I'm too close, due to the stat differences I can't fire off as quick as I'd like, whereas the Nate Player can.

I thought the game had it as- Jabs/Straights beat Uppercuts, Uppercuts beat Hooks, and Hooks beat Jabs and Straights. In reality it's about who queues their combo up faster.

Personally I feel if you throw faster, the power should be lower due to not having as much wind up. I try to keep a brokem rhythm when I do certain strikes since 80% of players just aim to queue combos faster than the other.

Did you watch the Brimage fight? Poirier? Those were both close in kos. Conor’s hands should be the most deadly at pretty much any range compared to anyone in his division. I get matched up with a Conor player and I’m not too worried other than the first two rounds.

[RomeroXVII]

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Did you watch the Brimage fight? Poirier? Those were both close in kos. Conor’s hands should be the most deadly at pretty much any range compared to anyone in his division. I get matched up with a Conor player and I’m not too worried other than the first two rounds.

I've watched all of his fights. I've grappled with him and Danis at the NYAC, and I've seen him drill in person, I'm sure the world knows how good he is. Even with his grappling being a 86 it is deceptively good. (2 gate armbar from Stacked guard, BJJ Reversals, etc etc)
His power comes from his utilization of strength, not because he is this overwhelming god of a man. He has good proprioception and while not being the best at timing offensive wrestling lol, he has a good concept of under/over defense of when getting shot on.

Regardless though, in a game where who queues what combo first wins, when you have a character that has 99 accuracy and an unbelievably overpowered hook (when in actuality he should have a perk for his straight instead) , even when you back away a jab uppercut hook, his accuracy will still track you and hit you AS YOU'RE MOVING BACK. And with you being extra vulnerable when moving you're heading, it's an atrocity.

He has an oblique kick that can be spammed indefinitely with little to no worry. You are unlike to win an inside battle with him unless you have his head health and stamina low and even then you still can still get stunned and brutally knocked out. I had a fight against Creeldaddy, where I scored 10 knockdowns, and was basically toying with him just to see how much damage Conor can still do, despite having his stamina at 30% and mine being at 80%.

I still got rocked when he had 10% (I eventually finished him but you get the point)

Also, something that some people don't know, the game scores by damage.
Sig strikes mean absolutely nothing. But with Conor being extremely powerful in game, I could land the same strikes as him, maybe outstrike him by 10 or more shots, but if his strikes were doing more damage(which they would), he will win the round. Matters a lot when you're fighting people of equal skill level.

[Whiteshark209]

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I've watched all of his fights. I've grappled with him and Danis at the NYAC, and I've seen him drill in person, I'm sure the world knows how good he is. Even with his grappling being a 86 it is deceptively good. (2 gate armbar from Stacked guard, BJJ Reversals, etc etc)
His power comes from his utilization of strength, not because he is this overwhelming god of a man. He has good proprioception and while not being the best at timing offensive wrestling lol, he has a good concept of under/over defense of when getting shot on.

Regardless though, in a game where who queues what combo first wins, when you have a character that has 99 accuracy and an unbelievably overpowered hook (when in actuality he should have a perk for his straight instead) , even when you back away a jab uppercut hook, his accuracy will still track you and hit you AS YOU'RE MOVING BACK. And with you being extra vulnerable when moving you're heading, it's an atrocity.

He has an oblique kick that can be spammed indefinitely with little to no worry. You are unlike to win an inside battle with him unless you have his head health and stamina low and even then you still can still get stunned and brutally knocked out. I had a fight against Creeldaddy, where I scored 10 knockdowns, and was basically toying with him just to see how much damage Conor can still do, despite having his stamina at 30% and mine being at 80%.

I still got rocked when he had 10% (I eventually finished him but you get the point)

Also, something that some people don't know, the game scores by damage.
Sig strikes mean absolutely nothing. But with Conor being extremely powerful in game, I could land the same strikes as him, maybe outstrike him by 10 or more shots, but if his strikes were doing more damage(which they would), he will win the round. Matters a lot when you're fighting people of equal skill level.

Guessing you wrestled in college? Where if you don’t mind me asking (not questioning you I’m just seriously interested)? After grappling with him do you see any hope for him against Khabib?

[Good Grappler]

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I think McGregor has very good grappling and is underrated in that respect. He has a very calm, reactive grappling style and a very intelligent approach to MMA grappling.

He outgrappled Holloway just on a whim when his knee popped. Literally outgrappled one of the best FWs just as an on-the-spot plan B, even somersaulted into a double leg at one point. He also showed flashes of brilliance in his fights with Brandao and Siver. Also controlled Alvarez for a brief moment from north south, and easily stopped all his takedowns.

I’m convinced he COULD out grapple most of the guys in his division.

[Phillyboi207]

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I think McGregor has very good grappling and is underrated in that respect. He has a very calm, reactive grappling style and a very intelligent approach to MMA grappling.

He outgrappled Holloway just on a whim when his knee popped. Literally outgrappled one of the best FWs just as an on-the-spot plan B, even somersaulted into a double leg at one point. He also showed flashes of brilliance in his fights with Brandao and Siver. Also controlled Alvarez for a brief moment from north south, and easily stopped all his takedowns.

I’m convinced he COULD out grapple most of the guys in hisu division.

Nice try Dana

[RomeroXVII]

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I think McGregor has very good grappling and is underrated in that respect. He has a very calm, reactive grappling style and a very intelligent approach to MMA grappling.

He outgrappled Holloway just on a whim when his knee popped. Literally outgrappled one of the best FWs just as an on-the-spot plan B, even somersaulted into a double leg at one point. He also showed flashes of brilliance in his fights with Brandao and Siver. Also controlled Alvarez for a brief moment from north south, and easily stopped all his takedowns.

I’m convinced he COULD out grapple most of the guys in his division.

Except: A: Holloway is a kickboxer not a high level grappler, and back then was not even remotely close who he is now, size as well he was dwarfed by McGregor. Holloway got submitted by Poirer and beat by Bermudez during that time.
B.
Brandao and Siver are not world beaters by any means.
Eddie, despite what Dana White would tell you, was a High School All American. Keyword: HIGH SCHOOL. Never wrestle in college, and he never was able to maul/control somebody on the ground in the same manner Kevin Lee/Khabib/RDA have done. He mainly uses his wrestling to set up his strikes, but he tends to be out of position when he shoots, even now. He is, at his core a brawler with wrestling in his back pocket to bail him out.

C. HOWEVER, the one thing you're right about is, DEFENSIVELY his grappling is alright, Danis off his back is no slouch(World Champ), he was able to sweep Diaz (although I'm sure Diaz stopped fighting it so McGregor could be in Diaz's guard), and he knows how to use the cage to defend TD attempts.

He has a good understanding of head, hands, hips defense with regards to his strikes and keeping range. However we saw what happened when he fought against Chad Mendes, (less than two weeks notice), a D1 All American who took him down 4 out 7 tries, and when he had him on the ground it was his world, to the point where McGregor was asking Herb Dean to have them stand up. Had Mendes not made the mistake of going into the Guillotine, and instead just passed into Top Mount as he should have, this wouldn't be a discussion.

He will need the most precise shot of his life to take out Khabib, because once Khabib has him down, it will be relentless.

[RomeroXVII]

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Guessing you wrestled in college? Where if you don’t mind me asking (not questioning you I’m just seriously interested)? After grappling with him do you see any hope for him against Khabib?

I won't say the schools, but I wrestled over in NJ (NJCAA), and I'm transferring to a school in NY to finish up my final two years (NCAA D3)

With the Khabib question: I am a 145 lbs out of season. Conor, frame wise was pretty big, and he was pretty decent with his hand fighting.

I was able to inside trip him, arm throw him, and use the low single effectively, although the low single was by FAR the hardest shot to get on him. We were wrestling freestyle so obviously he couldn't pull guard or anything like that, but I was surprised myself that he had really good hip defense, and I was able to score.

Then we put McGregor with Sodik Ismoilov, a 2015 World Team Member from Tajikistan. Sodik absolutely mauled him.

Again though, this is purely wrestling. MMA Grappling is obviously different with the threat of the guard, submissions, punches etc so If he can get his strikes off on Khabib, then he should be fine. I even think he'll be able to defend the first two three shots Khabib will take. But when Khabib takes him down, it is not going to look good.

[Thetruth11]

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I've watched all of his fights. I've grappled with him and Danis at the NYAC, and I've seen him drill in person, I'm sure the world knows how good he is. Even with his grappling being a 86 it is deceptively good. (2 gate armbar from Stacked guard, BJJ Reversals, etc etc)
His power comes from his utilization of strength, not because he is this overwhelming god of a man. He has good proprioception and while not being the best at timing offensive wrestling lol, he has a good concept of under/over defense of when getting shot on.

Regardless though, in a game where who queues what combo first wins, when you have a character that has 99 accuracy and an unbelievably overpowered hook (when in actuality he should have a perk for his straight instead) , even when you back away a jab uppercut hook, his accuracy will still track you and hit you AS YOU'RE MOVING BACK. And with you being extra vulnerable when moving you're heading, it's an atrocity.

He has an oblique kick that can be spammed indefinitely with little to no worry. You are unlike to win an inside battle with him unless you have his head health and stamina low and even then you still can still get stunned and brutally knocked out. I had a fight against Creeldaddy, where I scored 10 knockdowns, and was basically toying with him just to see how much damage Conor can still do, despite having his stamina at 30% and mine being at 80%.

I still got rocked when he had 10% (I eventually finished him but you get the point)

Also, something that some people don't know, the game scores by damage.
Sig strikes mean absolutely nothing. But with Conor being extremely powerful in game, I could land the same strikes as him, maybe outstrike him by 10 or more shots, but if his strikes were doing more damage(which they would), he will win the round. Matters a lot when you're fighting people of equal skill level.

What a liar

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[NextupNico]

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The games evolved


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