Why can people play like terminators

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

A pressure fighter is like a bully ... Especially one with good striking stamina . Once you back pedal and they see that you defence is controlled by their attacking patterns they will pour it on.

It's hard going up against these arcade maniacs . I have a friend who plays UFC 3 the same way he does FIFA ...ping pong ...ping pong boom boom . Because the game allows it without taking his stamina ( before he finishes me ) if I don't punish him for it.


In FIFA speed and going forward beats every other stat . Just look at the mess with timed finesse shots mechanic. I digress .

But just keep at it....everybody has a pattern . These pressure guys have something that can be countered. You just have to time it right.

I'm still learning but the gap between me and him it's closing .





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[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

No its about blocking. Some are in favour of.making other defensive tools more reliable, some are in favour of making blocking less reliable.

Ok I see ...I never liked the block breaking Mechanic in this game but it is what it is .

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[Lauriedr1ver]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

Ok I see ...I never liked the block breaking Mechanic in this game but it is what it is .

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Thinking your missing the point of some of the convo.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

Thinking your missing the point of some of the convo.

Yeah maybe so ...sorry.

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[GrimLeiper]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

Get a character with oblique/side kicks to the knee. Been using these against players Jon Jones style and never realized how good they are for keeping pressure fighters off you. Time a couple well and they'll be alot more cautious getting in to range to strike and will give you space, at least from my experience using and experimenting with them the past week or so.

This.

Leg kicks are one of the best ways of combating pressure. But don't think just throwing leg kicks is going to work.

If they adapt and start blocking low, you adapt too and start throwing high.

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[Lauriedr1ver]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

This.

Leg kicks are one of the best ways of combating pressure. But don't think just throwing leg kicks is going to work.

If they adapt and start blocking low, you adapt too and start throwing high.

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Leg kicks are also one of the best strikes for a pressure fighter, it limits movement, sets up high kicks, gives you a grapple advantage etc. Leg kicks are just a good thung to throw in general tbh.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

This.

Leg kicks are one of the best ways of combating pressure. But don't think just throwing leg kicks is going to work.

If they adapt and start blocking low, you adapt too and start throwing high.

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You will get blasted when you guys are nipple to nipple range. Once they adapt .

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[RetractedMonkey]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

Leg kicks are the opposite of a correct move either for or against pressure. Whether in real life or in game. Throwing a leg kick against someone moving forward means you’re going to eat powerful counter shots while you’re on one leg. Or you eat shots from a stationary opponent while you march forward.

Leg kicks are best against guys that stay still or use a lot of movement, specifically lateral movement.

If you want to use them in game with aggression, you need to have an opponent who respects your strikes and pop in and out while they back up. Hit a couple shots and then end with a leg kick. Then back up. You can even angle out while throwing it.


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[Lauriedr1ver]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

Leg kicks are the opposite of a correct move either for or against pressure. Whether in real life or in game. Throwing a leg kick against someone moving forward means you’re going to eat powerful counter shots while you’re on one leg. Or you eat shots from a stationary opponent while you march forward.

Leg kicks are best against guys that stay still or use a lot of movement, specifically lateral movement.

If you want to use them in game with aggression, you need to have an opponent who respects your strikes and pop in and out while they back up. Hit a couple shots and then end with a leg kick. Then back up. You can even angle out while throwing it.


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Did you get my response to your parry rebuttal?

[RetractedMonkey]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

Did you get my response to your parry rebuttal?

I didn’t really see it as a rebuttal. You just clarified what you meant and added on to the subject. I didn’t think anymore responses were necessary. These ideas are a good start for parries.


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[GrimLeiper]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

You will get blasted when you guys are nipple to nipple range. Once they adapt .

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See, I didn't say "if they adapt, keep throwing leg kicks."

When timed correctly, leg kicks are solid for combating this type of pressure. In fact, unless they adjust quickly, they'll soon incur a leg health event, if the leg kicks are timed correctly consistently (catching them in start-ups of strikes does great damage.)

See when the other player then adjusts and stops walking into them or falling for them, DO NOT CONTINUE throwing leg kicks. Surely people can work this out for themselves...


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[DaisukEasy]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

the reason everyone plays like this is because there isn’t enough defensive options to deter the from doing so.

You not being able to deal the the simplest of strategies means it's the game's fault, right? There's no way there's a gap in your knowledge, insufficient skill or execution errors on your end. No way.

Ignore the fact that if you continuously walk forward against someone who's half decent it's like walking into a grinder.

[johnmangala]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

I dont understand the complaint about clinches

It is very hard to block a clinch attempt (Over/Under)in phone booth range. Even harder if your opponent lands a 2 first or if you’re blocking.

Imo the perfect balance would be increasing stamina drain on blocked strikes but also increasing damage bleed through on blocked strikes (especially heavy strikes) based on accuracy vs block rating.

This way fighters can still gas a bit easier just punching away at someone’s block but the defender will still take a lot of damage if they’re just holding block.

I’d love a system where dodging heavy strikes is imperative. It’d work like other fighting games where

Fast strike >dodge>heavy strike >block>fast strike

Because the clinch entries should have the logic TDs have now.

Oppoent moving towards: over/under, double leg
Opponent moving away: single collar, single leg

Like the single collar tie the over under entry animation needed to be updated.

You don't need to strike prior to land TDs now with that logic, same should be for the clinch. The current over/under entry has such a long animation to deny.

[TheGentlemanGhost]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

This would be okay (maybe) if certain fighters like the Diaz played somewhat like this, but it doesn't matter if you are Conor or Lyoto, you can fight the same exact way with any striker, I'm really hoping for strikers to feel a bit more different next time.

They also need to have takedowns be easier on these forward moving fighters against good wrestlers. There's still a lot of individuality that needs to be added to the game along with simplified real life defensive measures.

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[RematchKing]

Re: Why can people play like terminators

Leg kicks are the opposite of a correct move either for or against pressure. Whether in real life or in game. Throwing a leg kick against someone moving forward means you’re going to eat powerful counter shots while you’re on one leg. Or you eat shots from a stationary opponent while you march forward.

Leg kicks are best against guys that stay still or use a lot of movement, specifically lateral movement.

If you want to use them in game with aggression, you need to have an opponent who respects your strikes and pop in and out while they back up. Hit a couple shots and then end with a leg kick. Then back up. You can even angle out while throwing it.


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As it stands now, leg kicks are annoying when spammed, but they can be checked and injure the guy throwing them. Leg kicks are not implemented correctly IMO. Yes they can cause health events and are SUPPOSED to make it easier to take people down (I’ve yet to notice this), but they don’t slow down movement AT ALL unless it’s during a health event. What fighter do you know that can be dropped by a leg kick, get back up, and move just as quick? Leg kicks do NOTHING on the overall speed that the fighter moves when not in a health event. This is a huge issue. I have noticed that they damage forward moving guys’ legs more, but they don’t slow them down.