Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

[Kingslayer04]

Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

If the game auto downgrades back to 30fps for online play, then its just the reduced input delay with the moniter helping i'm thinking. But its facts that the game looks smoother and feels better running on the Pro or 1X at 60fps. You can even see it in youtube vids.

I thought even Good Grappler admitted there's a big difference between his OG console ans jigsaw's X just a few posts ago. So I don't know how exactly there isn't a difference and it's just about the monitor.

[TheUFCVeteran]

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The game renders at 60fps on Pro, offline or online - but the background simulation and inputs all run at 30hz, so you don’t actually get a direct benefit in terms of faster inputs, you just see things a little easier.

[WarMMA]

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The game renders at 60fps on Pro, offline or online - but the background simulation and inputs all run at 30hz, so you don’t actually get a direct benefit in terms of faster inputs, you just see things a little easier.

So then its mainly the monitor. If you're using a gaming monitor, then you'll get the benifits of faster inputs and low response times.Of course like jigsaw said, that has nothing to do with EA. But I do think they should make the game higher fps across the board if its possible.

[Kingslayer04]

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So let me get this straight - if I theoretically get a gaming monitor but stay with the OG console, and play a guy with a Pro, the gameplay discrepancy would be gone and he won't be seeing things before I do?

[ryangil23]

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So let me get this straight - if I theoretically get a gaming monitor but stay with the OG console, and play a guy with a Pro, the gameplay discrepancy would be gone and he won't be seeing things before I do?

There's definitely an advantage, especially in grappling, if you have a pro. Whatever the technical side of it is, there's 100% an advantage. Transition denials are much, much easier. I don't have one myself but everyone who does has said as much.

[1212headkick]

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There's definitely an advantage, especially in grappling, if you have a pro. Whatever the technical side of it is, there's 100% an advantage. Transition denials are much, much easier. I don't have one myself but everyone who does has said as much.

Wont matter if your connection is bad. But very true. Still have to have knowledge of when to predeny and how to actually play.

[VitoBurrito]

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My experience-

I have a PS4 pro, regular xbox one and a 4K monitor, PS4 pro I can do everything on reaction and don’t have any issues except when just out played, Xbox one on same monitor is so choppy and is pretty much unplayable, the visual frame rate so poor compared to my pro, I get a headache when playing on Xbox one

[Good Grappler]

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https://xboxdvr.com/gamer/the-relaxe...video/72257883

^ I did my first ranked run in months a few days ago. Here’s one of the few matches I remembered to record. This guys been ranked #1 on Xbox before, and I’ve seen him active on ESFL. Just to show that even with an oldass xbox, and zero striking skills to speak of, I can get it done. By get it done, I mean run through top players in 2 mins with wrestling alone.

Sorta makes me wanna get that new console and monitor just so I can play ranked again without any disadvantages. Granted I don’t really care, or play much anymore so it’s not worth the purchase. This is the only videogame I play so it’s just not quite worth getting all that equipment.

[jigsaw736]

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The monitor will help with input delay..

But I mainly got it for fps shooting games where every half of a second matters.

But like head kick said , getting a monitor or an x really won’t make a difference if you don’t already know the transitions.

It’s not a magic trick that will just instantly make you better. It’s hours and hours of practice. I’ve learnedonce you have all the transitions down , the ground is more about anticipation of and correctly predicting where the opponent is going to go. It’s a lot of patience and repetition.

This season I’ve gotten to like rank 12 — 120-8 record with Matt Hughs strictly grappling.

I punched Santa is good , but far from great he is a top 100 For sure. I’d rank him in the upper 50’s of players.

[1212headkick]

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So let me get this straight - if I theoretically get a gaming monitor but stay with the OG console, and play a guy with a Pro, the gameplay discrepancy would be gone and he won't be seeing things before I do?

Youll have an easier time but probably still get starched. Learn momentum transitions and knowing where your opponent will go will be much easier. People favor the fast transitions which are mostly momentum transitions and not possible to deny reactively. The difference betweeen top 100s and you is simple. You wait on someone to attempt to fullguard deny. We know your going to full guard so we predeny half guard. Noone fakes on me in half guard. Lol.

[BigSmoke]

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and i’m on a regular ps4 and i’ll just say you’re at a major disadvantage. on the ground their denial windows feel huge compared to mine, and denying anything on reaction is basically impossible

there’s people who literally could never come close to beating me, who can beat me now after switching to a pro

Can definitely second this after getting a pro a few months ago. Before I got the pro denials and high low block were a lot harder now I feel like I can deny a lot better and block a lot better, people playing on older system are definitely at a huge disadvantage dunno why they can't sacrifice some visuals for 60 fps on the normal system it's kinda ridiculous considering ps3 undisputed 3 had 60 fps lmao.

[Kingslayer04]

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Youll have an easier time but probably still get starched. Learn momentum transitions and knowing where your opponent will go will be much easier. People favor the fast transitions which are mostly momentum transitions and not possible to deny reactively. The difference betweeen top 100s and you is simple. You wait on someone to attempt to fullguard deny. We know your going to full guard so we predeny half guard. Noone fakes on me in half guard. Lol.

Don't know what's with the condescending attitude and the top 100 talk again. People literally see things before me - they can deny on reaction, I can't. I was asking how the whole thing works. In UFC 2 anyone that transitioned up from sprawl I guillotined on reaction. In UFC 3 there are like 3 transitions I can deny on reaction if I'm really fast, the rest I have to predeny which I try and do. The problem is that many other people seemingly don't need to do that, they see it and deny it.

[HereticFighter]

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Can definitely second this after getting a pro a few months ago. Before I got the pro denials and high low block were a lot harder now I feel like I can deny a lot better and block a lot better, people playing on older system are definitely at a huge disadvantage dunno why they can't sacrifice some visuals for 60 fps on the normal system it's kinda ridiculous considering ps3 undisputed 3 had 60 fps lmao.

I wondered too: when i was in div 4 at the start of last season and earlier this season, matches were much less likely to feel lagged and unresponsive even when competitive. Like i have 5 bar matches where i can't seem to make half the strikes come out.

Once in Div 5 similarly skilled people are starching me cause i'm getting so many dropped inputs and laggy nonsense. Could the interaction of a ps4 pro and a normal ps4 cause additional input problems? More people in the top divisions will have pros, so maybe thats why the performance gets worse more often as you move up the ranks?

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

So let me get this straight - if I theoretically get a gaming monitor but stay with the OG console, and play a guy with a Pro, the gameplay discrepancy would be gone and he won't be seeing things before I do?

Not necessarily seeing things before you do, that's a misconception. It's responsiveness.

[Kingslayer04]

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Not necessarily seeing things before you do, that's a misconception. It's responsiveness.

I was trying to get some clarity, can't say I did lol. I'm seeing all sorts of different responses, from (paraphrasing) "the Pro makes a huge difference", to "it's actually about the monitor, not the console" to "it's actually about skill and technology has nothing to do with it" to "you see things earlier" to "you don't actually see things earlier". So yeah, plenty's been said.