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  • RomeroXVII
    MVP
    • May 2018
    • 1663

    #46
    Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

    Originally posted by Kingslayer04
    I was trying to get some clarity, can't say I did lol. I'm seeing all sorts of different responses, from (paraphrasing) "the Pro makes a huge difference", to "it's actually about the monitor, not the console" to "it's actually about skill and technology has nothing to do with it" to "you see things earlier" to "you don't actually see things earlier". So yeah, plenty's been said.
    It's responsiveness with regards to grappling is the 'advantage', the striking looks smoother but there's no advantage with regards to the striking if you have a PS4 Pro vs a regular Pro.

    With the Monitor added in, it would enhance the responsiveness.

    Uni-Bot is one of the best players by far when it comes to the ground, and he doesn't have a Monitor or a Pro. However, he is the outlier because he knows the grappling system in and out since UFC 2.

    One can have the Pro and a Monitor, but it doesn't make you a beast just because you have it. You still need to know how to time your strikes, you still have to recognize transitions and the directions that they go, and you also have to learn about manipulating GA.

    When I first started playing the game, I didn't have either up until Season 7-8. That being said, I was still consistently beating guys who had both the Pro and Monitor.

    Aside from UFC 3, I got myself the monitor since I don't like taking up the TV in the living room and I rather have something for myself, and I was sharing the regular PS4 with my brothers, so if I was going to get myself something, might as well get the latest thing.


    I would recommend the VG245H Gaming Monitor, it's cheap compared to those other 'high end' monitors and works well + doesn't take much space. If you're looking to get a Pro, just trade in your old PS4 to save cash when you purchase it.

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    • jigsaw736
      Rookie
      • Mar 2018
      • 349

      #47
      Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

      As I stated earlier , the monitor will help a little bit.

      But it will not turn you into a pro over night.

      The difference between a tv and monitor isn’t night and day , it’s a small difference and will only matter at the absolute highest levels

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      • Kingslayer04
        MVP
        • Dec 2017
        • 1482

        #48
        Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

        Originally posted by RomeroXVII
        It's responsiveness with regards to grappling is the 'advantage', the striking looks smoother but there's no advantage with regards to the striking if you have a PS4 Pro vs a regular Pro.

        With the Monitor added in, it would enhance the responsiveness.

        Uni-Bot is one of the best players by far when it comes to the ground, and he doesn't have a Monitor or a Pro. However, he is the outlier because he knows the grappling system in and out since UFC 2.

        One can have the Pro and a Monitor, but it doesn't make you a beast just because you have it. You still need to know how to time your strikes, you still have to recognize transitions and the directions that they go, and you also have to learn about manipulating GA.

        When I first started playing the game, I didn't have either up until Season 7-8. That being said, I was still consistently beating guys who had both the Pro and Monitor.

        Aside from UFC 3, I got myself the monitor since I don't like taking up the TV in the living room and I rather have something for myself, and I was sharing the regular PS4 with my brothers, so if I was going to get myself something, might as well get the latest thing.


        I would recommend the VG245H Gaming Monitor, it's cheap compared to those other 'high end' monitors and works well + doesn't take much space. If you're looking to get a Pro, just trade in your old PS4 to save cash when you purchase it.

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        Thank you, that was rather concise and I think helped me understand better. Obviously I had never thought that the very possession of better equipment alone would make you a worldbeater. That's ridiculous. But I wanted to know just how much of an edge it gave you. Because I could definitely feel like the game isn't quite responsive on my TV and PS4 but it looks so smooth on people who have Pro's videos. That, combined with the numerous comments by all sorts of players that it makes a big difference in experience just consolidated this impression. But yeah, I never thought that just having good equipment endows you with godlike skills, just that it makes a difference in experience. As for upgrading, that's not really on my to-do list, but thanks for your recommendation, I'll have it mind.

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        • LoveThisLife
          Rookie
          • Oct 2018
          • 92

          #49
          Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

          Originally posted by Kingslayer04
          Thank you, that was rather concise and I think helped me understand better. Obviously I had never thought that the very possession of better equipment alone would make you a worldbeater. That's ridiculous. But I wanted to know just how much of an edge it gave you. Because I could definitely feel like the game isn't quite responsive on my TV and PS4 but it looks so smooth on people who have Pro's videos. That, combined with the numerous comments by all sorts of players that it makes a big difference in experience just consolidated this impression. But yeah, I never thought that just having good equipment endows you with godlike skills, just that it makes a difference in experience. As for upgrading, that's not really on my to-do list, but thanks for your recommendation, I'll have it mind.
          On a Side note... why are you so hated on Reddit?

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          • Kingslayer04
            MVP
            • Dec 2017
            • 1482

            #50
            Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

            Originally posted by LoveThisLife
            On a Side note... why are you so hated on Reddit?
            Hated on Reddit? I can't remember being "hated" on Reddit, I also use this username only on here. Are you mistaking me for someone else?

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            • RomeroXVII
              MVP
              • May 2018
              • 1663

              #51
              Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

              Originally posted by Kingslayer04
              Thank you, that was rather concise and I think helped me understand better. Obviously I had never thought that the very possession of better equipment alone would make you a worldbeater. That's ridiculous. But I wanted to know just how much of an edge it gave you. Because I could definitely feel like the game isn't quite responsive on my TV and PS4 but it looks so smooth on people who have Pro's videos. That, combined with the numerous comments by all sorts of players that it makes a big difference in experience just consolidated this impression. But yeah, I never thought that just having good equipment endows you with godlike skills, just that it makes a difference in experience. As for upgrading, that's not really on my to-do list, but thanks for your recommendation, I'll have it mind.
              The only edge it gave me is responsiveness on the ground, and that's all I really needed.

              The only thing that needs to be fixed with this game are the bugs and tracking issues honestly.
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              • ZHunter1990
                EA Game Changer
                • Jan 2016
                • 572

                #52
                Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

                Originally posted by TheUFCVeteran
                The game renders at 60fps on Pro, offline or online - but the background simulation and inputs all run at 30hz, so you don’t actually get a direct benefit in terms of faster inputs, you just see things a little easier.
                This is correct.

                The benefit is in the smoothness of movements. It's easier to tell what is happening and react accordingly because you get to see double the information in the same time frame.

                The denial windows are not bigger, there is no advantage other than visual clarity as far as consoles go.

                Now as far as monitors vs TV's, depending on your TV, you could be at a disadvantage. I have a 55inch TV with 5ms response time and a 28inch monitor with 3ms response time. The difference is minimal but I prefer the monitor because I can sit closer to it and I don't have to glance up or down as far to see things like stamina/ high/lo mixups.

                If you have a smart TV with a ****ty response time, you could be at a pretty big disadvantage.
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                • BigSmoke
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2018
                  • 148

                  #53
                  Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

                  Originally posted by Kingslayer04
                  I was trying to get some clarity, can't say I did lol. I'm seeing all sorts of different responses, from (paraphrasing) "the Pro makes a huge difference", to "it's actually about the monitor, not the console" to "it's actually about skill and technology has nothing to do with it" to "you see things earlier" to "you don't actually see things earlier". So yeah, plenty's been said.
                  Well on my end the biggest things I noticed was denials were a lot easier to do, I am no ground wizard but it definitely made things much easier, no denying that. Biggest difference though like I said my blocking went up 100% compared to what it used to be.

                  Game also just kind of runs like crap on a regular ps4, feels a lot more choppy in general. I could not imagine playing on it after playing on the pro.

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                  • Kingslayer04
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 1482

                    #54
                    Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

                    Originally posted by BigSmoke
                    Well on my end the biggest things I noticed was denials were a lot easier to do, I am no ground wizard but it definitely made things much easier, no denying that. Biggest difference though like I said my blocking went up 100% compared to what it used to be.

                    Game also just kind of runs like crap on a regular ps4, feels a lot more choppy in general. I could not imagine playing on it after playing on the pro.
                    I kinda have a mixture of things that contribute to this unresponsiveness and slowness I'm getting sometimes - a regular PS4, a TV that's anything but a modern one/one that has anything to do with gaming, and a connection that's okay and that's it. Many times things run fine though. I'm just trying to put my finger on the reason for this experience but it may not be just one.

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                    • rabbitfistssaipailo
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 1625

                      #55
                      Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

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                      • BigSmoke
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2018
                        • 148

                        #56
                        Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

                        Originally posted by Kingslayer04
                        I kinda have a mixture of things that contribute to this unresponsiveness and slowness I'm getting sometimes - a regular PS4, a TV that's anything but a modern one/one that has anything to do with gaming, and a connection that's okay and that's it. Many times things run fine though. I'm just trying to put my finger on the reason for this experience but it may not be just one.
                        Its not your fault bro... nobody should have to go out and buy a slightly better system for 500 bucks to experience the game how it should be for everyone. I'll reiterate this time and time again, it's honestly sad they can't hit 60 fps on a new system when THQ did it on the ps3.

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                        • ryangil23
                          Rookie
                          • May 2016
                          • 418

                          #57
                          Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

                          So, the pro came at the weekend and I noticed a bit of a difference. That was with a normal TV. The monitor came today and I can tell you for a fact that it does make a big difference. You still have to be fairly fast but you don't need to practically pre-deny. It's much more responsive in blocking and transition denials. If you want to be competitive then definitely get yourself the hardware.

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                          • tomitomitomi
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 987

                            #58
                            Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

                            Originally posted by BigSmoke
                            Its not your fault bro... nobody should have to go out and buy a slightly better system for 500 bucks to experience the game how it should be for everyone. I'll reiterate this time and time again, it's honestly sad they can't hit 60 fps on a new system when THQ did it on the ps3.
                            Whenever new hardware comes out the developers prioritize graphics over performance. I don't like it but that's how they operate.
                            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                            • Boiler569
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 2006

                              #59
                              Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

                              Been playing on a 1080p TV w/ a regular PS4....hoping this handicap will give me a big boost when moving to the Pro or PS5 on a 4K down the line.

                              Not sure if I will actually go 110% and get a full on gaming monitor someday .... not like this game is paying the bills on a competitive level hahhaaha but if I would do it, I'd do it For The Love Of The Game !
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                              • UFCBlackbelt
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2018
                                • 1067

                                #60
                                Re: Top players: do you use a new gen console and/or monitor?

                                Originally posted by Boiler569
                                Been playing on a 1080p TV w/ a regular PS4....hoping this handicap will give me a big boost when moving to the Pro or PS5 on a 4K down the line.

                                Not sure if I will actually go 110% and get a full on gaming monitor someday .... not like this game is paying the bills on a competitive level hahhaaha but if I would do it, I'd do it For The Love Of The Game !
                                Getting a 4K is like the opposite of getting a gaming monitor unless ur willing to shell out your entire paycheck

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