Official Closed Beta Announcement

[oilersfan365]

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How in the world can you KO someone from D/U SUB?

You can't unless you have Mcnuggets shoulders of death lol but in all seriousness they could add a reversal off the cage where you put you opponent in that position that happens irl.

[johnmangala]

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How in the world can you KO someone from D/U SUB?

I havent seen it happen. But some people can generate the power from short distances like volkan did on manuwa.

If that doesnt work. The throws should be able to KO.

[johnmangala]

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How in the world can you KO someone from D/U SUB?

It's similar to this position


Hall was able to TKO Andrews even tho Andrews was controlling the shoulders for a bit. Sub could generate more power from standing double under. Not saying it should be easy but I think it's possible to do.

[Phillyboi207]

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It's similar to this position


Hall was able to TKO Andrews even tho Andrews was controlling the shoulders for a bit. Sub could generate more power from standing double under. Not saying it should be easy but I think it's possible to do.

That is nothing like D/U sub. Hall was able to keep his feet on Andrews hips to control him and create space. Not to mention Andrews didn't have any kind of underhooks to control Hall's upper body.

If someone has two underhooks on you I can't think of any scenario where you'd be able to generate enough force to KO them. Especially because they'd generally be up close and controlling your upper body.

Double unders would specifically be about controlling your opponent.

[johnmangala]

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That is nothing like D/U sub. Hall was able to keep his feet on Andrews hips to control him and create space. Not to mention Andrews didn't have any kind of underhooks to control Hall's upper body.

If someone has two underhooks on you I can't think of any scenario where you'd be able to generate enough force to KO them. Especially because they'd generally be up close and controlling your upper body.

Double unders would specifically be about controlling your opponent.

Fair enough.

They should add rocks to the throws tho. Add the arm wrench too. So it's not exactly too safe.

That should be enough imo.

[johnmangala]

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Add an input for o/u. O/u should have strikes again- shoulder strikes that can rock and stomps. Also add a transition to single under and d/u.

[MacAttack33]

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They definitely hate double under hooks and being pinned against the cage unable to do anything.

They hate that a lot.

Just give them the ability to reverse and spin the opponent's back into the cage while in the clinch.

Right now, the only option is to escape the clinch from this position.

These submissive clinch positions need options to transition to better clinch positions, not just escaping.

Seems odd that you don't want them to have fun with the new clinch (which is very fun) to the maximum extent possible. Instead, you force them to escape the clinch from these submissive clinch positions.

Basically, I'm saying you've done great work with the clinch and casuals will want more options from submissive clinch positions to stay in the clinch.

Its a fun, fast and fluid clinch so they don't always want to escape.

[johnmangala]

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You should also be able to go for trips, throws, and TDs from sub single collar.

[Find_the_Door]

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I really hope they work on finish the fight sequence , the clinch game and give us an option to revert if possible to the UFC3 submission system..
[b]And transition counter windows should be bigger....[\b]


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No they should not be bigger smh there needs to be a skill gap on the ground if you're having a problem with denials that's on you or the display you're using. Do not want a casual denial/reversal fest on this game please.

Also the submission system is fine - actually learn it then comment

[tissues250]

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Clinch locomotion is way more better than before, but transition is much worse than before. 2 steps forward, 3 steps backward.

[johnmangala]

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No they should not be bigger smh there needs to be a skill gap on the ground if you're having a problem with denials that's on you or the display you're using. Do not want a casual denial/reversal fest on this game please.

Also the submission system is fine - actually learn it then comment

Bro the sub system is not casual friendly. Like tomi said we already go through panic, not saying we dont have to simulate it but it should be for both sides. Either remove the bar getting bigger with erratic movement or make the offensive sub bar get smaller for the same erratic movement too.

[tissues250]

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How about the transition system in the clinch? as right stick circling like UD3. I believe it used to be in EA UFC1.

[Find_the_Door]

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Bro the sub system is not casual friendly. Like tomi said we already go through panic, not saying we dont have to simulate it but it should be for both sides. Either remove the bar getting bigger with erratic movement or make the offensive sub bar get smaller for the same erratic movement too.

Doesn't matter if it's casual friendly - the game being tuned for casuals is a mistake of epic proportions. They'll leave in two weeks or less after getting smashed - this game is niche and always will be. Not everyone can handle getting digitally pounded.

[johnmangala]

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Doesn't matter if it's casual friendly - the game being tuned for casuals is a mistake of epic proportions. They'll leave in two weeks or less after getting smashed - this game is niche and always will be. Not everyone can handle getting digitally pounded.

I get what you're saying. But if appealing to casuals gets them more money for the budget I'm all for it.

It's not even hardcore friendly atm. I was facing lvl 7 and lvl 11 players and their bars were frantic. It's not intuitive because the instinct is to go fast and get away, they steered against that and made it hard for the defender. The limb subs was okay and people weren't complaining about that.

[johnmangala]

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I think they should've used simple subs. It would be been better with the inputs for slam, counter or strike.

That is the most casual friendly.