EA Sports UFC 5 Gameplay Deep Dive Video with Martial Mind

[rebel8pig]

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You guys should settle this in the cage.

[Serengeti1]

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Serious question: Who would that be? I can only recall 3 people who are no longer GC's since I've been there. One is Aydin and the other two are content creators who were never critical about the game.

Also, just because people arent critical the way you guys are (which at times is over the top) doesnt mean that we arent critical behind the scenes. What is the point of me bitching about a decision they made on OS when I can go directly to a dev and explain to him/her what the issue is and why it needs to be fixed?

i concede i had little logic behind the first statement. my reasoning was kinetic NRG isn't one anymore and he was pretty critical? Or maybe he is again? idk. admittedly, i was trying to push an agenda there with little logical reasoning to support my own theory. but i'd imagine it wouldn't be okay for GC's to be overly critical of the game publicly, right? I think that's a fair assumption to make?

and i'm sure these things have been said behind the scenes but are they still being said? and how much emphasis is on them? because i would have to think that what is said publicly is somewhat reflective of what is said behind the scenes also. And lately, martial hasn't been nearly critical enough from what i've seen of him talking about the new game.

you are probably one of the more critical GC's atm. at least from what i've been seeing and reading (which again has to be fairly reflective of the criticism brought to the table behind the scenes as well).

[Serengeti1]

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You wouldnt be a GC for long. LOL.

I dont know a single place that someone can work or provide input where you can go in, "rip them to pieces" and expect that you will still be asked to provide input. Thats not the real world.

Also, credit to Geoff. He made you guys feel that a point you made singularly guided a decision he made. I'll be blunt with you though: Not a single decision made by that dev team (including Geoff) happened because one person (Not a GC or a member outside the team) suggested it.

Not one.

I mean there were decisions made because one person suggested it. to fighter moves, animations, and stats. i remember mentioning specific ways in which Nick Diaz needed to be buffed and the changes made were highly reflective of what I suggested - but it made him one of the most OP fighters in UFC 3 because of the ways the buffs worked alongside the rest of his stats and the meta. just an example. sure, the bigger the change, the more people will be involved in the decision going ahead, but OS really did have a lot of influence over the direction of the game imo. Much more than you'd think considering how small of a community it is. once GPD left that seemed to end though.

[AleBrew]

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Here albert comes chiming in again with his shill nonsense. You literally just summed it up in that sentence buddy. If you need me to explain that to you then good luck. You literally confirmed my entire point about how lost EA are and how little the selected GC's actually care on giving the feeback that should have been given without any BS.

Also you guys got paid for it right, if you were not then fair enough but im willing to bet you all were paid to whatever degree that was, thus proving my point about how bias your points have been over the years.

Trying to understand if you’re upset that he doesn’t share your opinion about the game or that he’s not cursing out the dev team?

The guy is kind enough to come here and share whatever info he’s able to. As a GC he’s simply entrusted to provide input on the game. No need to attack him, he’s not actually responsible for the product. In fact most of the devs are just doing what they are paid to do. It’s not like they all get to decide what direction the game takes.

It’s a video game, if you don’t like it don’t buy it. Sharing your feedback on the game is fine. We all want a better mma game. Just try not to take it out on contributing members of the community. It doesn’t help and only makes this place toxic.

[aholbert32]

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i concede i had little logic behind the first statement. my reasoning was kinetic NRG isn't one anymore and he was pretty critical? Or maybe he is again? idk. admittedly, i was trying to push an agenda there with little logical reasoning to support my own theory. but i'd imagine it wouldn't be okay for GC's to be overly critical of the game publicly, right? I think that's a fair assumption to make?

and i'm sure these things have been said behind the scenes but are they still being said? and how much emphasis is on them? because i would have to think that what is said publicly is somewhat reflective of what is said behind the scenes also. And lately, martial hasn't been nearly critical enough from what i've seen of him talking about the new game.

you are probably one of the more critical GC's atm. at least from what i've been seeing and reading (which again has to be fairly reflective of the criticism brought to the table behind the scenes as well).

As of August, I think Kenetic is still a game changer. I havent heard that he has moved on and he was playing the most recent build we had access too.

To answer your question, you can be publicly critical but I cant go over the top nor would I want to. To be honest, I'm probably saying more than I should about the game to you all but EA is giving me a little leeway because I dont go too far.

[aholbert32]

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I mean there were decisions made because one person suggested it. to fighter moves, animations, and stats. i remember mentioning specific ways in which Nick Diaz needed to be buffed and the changes made were highly reflective of what I suggested - but it made him one of the most OP fighters in UFC 3 because of the ways the buffs worked alongside the rest of his stats and the meta. just an example. sure, the bigger the change, the more people will be involved in the decision going ahead, but OS really did have a lot of influence over the direction of the game imo. Much more than you'd think considering how small of a community it is. once GPD left that seemed to end though.

Fighter moves and stats are handled by a committee of GCs and devs with the devs making the final call. Its been that way since UFC2. I know this because I was the GC primarily handling stats and AI through UFC 3 (the new guys handling it are much better than me at this).

I'm not saying that your suggestions on Nick Diaz werent spurred by your request but there is a big process behind the scenes regarding any fighter changes. No changes are made primarily because someone (or even alot of people) on OS suggested a change.

[TheRizzzle]

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Trying to understand if you’re upset that he doesn’t share your opinion about the game or that he’s not cursing out the dev team?



The guy is kind enough to come here and share whatever info he’s able to. As a GC he’s simply entrusted to provide input on the game. No need to attack him, he’s not actually responsible for the product. In fact most of the devs are just doing what they are paid to do. It’s not like they all get to decide what direction the game takes.



It’s a video game, if you don’t like it don’t buy it. Sharing your feedback on the game is fine. We all want a better mma game. Just try not to take it out on contributing members of the community. It doesn’t help and only makes this place toxic.

If only he had cursed loud enough, maybe we'd have universe mode by now.

Curses.

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[bmlimo]

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well after seeing the video, no doubt that ea ufc 5 is the final version of ufc 4... sabe striking and ground with a little new things

[Yaari]

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Not impressed at all. Really not feeling it.

[SlimmerFredette]

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I mean I guess I need to get my hands on it, but aside from the visual changes, I'm not sure why not most of these things could have been patched into the game.

[Player2793]

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Really great video on defense - hope its possible to more successfully have a Machida-esque fighting style, the most frustrating thing on UFC 4 was feeling like you could never get away from people constantly walking you down.

[The_Waterboy92]

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Definitely feels like a moderate upgrade. Some thoughts:

1) the stuff he said about defense sounds promising, I’ll be curious if it survives initial launch and how people complain immediately after any game comes out

2) the ground game looks no different. The elbow is cool but it looked like after you throw one you automatically get pulled in. Can anyone explain the rationale of the timer when throwing ground and pound? That’s something I cannot stand

3) damage system is really promising and a step in the right direction

4) submission game I need to try. It sounds easy? As the defender can I block up when they attempt a submission to stop it as well as trying to escape using left or right? I think they also said you might have to successful transition to the “submission” by hitting up multiple times which I think would make it harder then it looked at first glance

5) one thing I wasn’t sure of is the guy martial interviewed said that if you have a grapple heavy round then the fighter on bottom would have an impact on their stamina (someone correct me if I misunderstood) but in the gameplay Khabib was wrestling mcgregor pretty bad and seemed to have either same stamina or worse when they got back to the feet

[Irish0331]

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Here albert comes chiming in again with his shill nonsense. You literally just summed it up in that sentence buddy. If you need me to explain that to you then good luck. You literally confirmed my entire point about how lost EA are and how little the selected GC's actually care on giving the feeback that should have been given without any BS.

Also you guys got paid for it right, if you were not then fair enough but im willing to bet you all were paid to whatever degree that was, thus proving my point about how bias your points have been over the years.

EA dropped the ball on 4. Was looking good at the end of 3 and then it's like they...I don't even know. They just f*cki g blew it. Straight up.

I always like it when aholbert chimes in. I dunno what your beef is but he's good to go in my book.

I watch the whole video. I'm confused. I guess I just gotta hope I get the beta to see how it all works. Some of this looks awesome. Alot of it, im skeptical. They addressed the xlinch in the vid, but it was like he gave an answer without giving and answer. I dunno. I pre-ordered today but I'm hopeful I get the beta.

[TheShizNo1]

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Your name is Albert and i will continue calling you that seen as you like to bombard every thread with about 20 ****ing posts lmao adding zero input apart from trying to flex and convince people that your some guru.

Also its either Albert or Ahole, thinking the latter would suit you better tbh. You pick and let me know.

Yeah let's not do this and try have a little more maturity when disagreeing with someone, please.

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[tomitomitomi]

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Not that i would ever personally accept working with EA ever anyhow, the company has a rotten mentallity that runs deep, putting profit well above delivering good products by deceving people more so than it was 10-15 years ago.

1. You'd be licking their boots in no time if they gave you the opportunity
2. EA regularly won worst company in America polls (which in itself is cringe considering Bank of America etc exist) so this is just another example of deluded gamer takes. EA was much worse 10-15 years ago than it is now.

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Anyway, shoutout to Martial Mind for doing a good job presenting the gameplay. The game itself looked about what I expected so it expands on what the previous games have established which is fine. Better movement/dodge interactions, better moving strikes, more clinch interactions etc.

It seemed like the grappling emphasized more frequent switching between positions which makes sense from a gameplay perspective as most people do not enjoy being laid on for a full round. However, the transitions themselves were quite quick in the video. This is particularly concerning with submissions if they all have a submission win / dominant position 50-50 mix-up. Why even go for regular transitions? Could one of the GC shills elaborate on this? I suppose it is possible the video was more offense-oriented to showcase the changes.

Also, I already know there is gonna be at least one point in the game where incomplete subs cause ridiculous long-term damage and ruin ranked for a week and I am sure this forum will handle it well.