EA Sports UFC 5 Gameplay Deep Dive Video with Martial Mind

[Blackman316]

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Damnit. They probably got me now. The segment where Oliveira and Poirier are rolling during the "seamless submission" part looked pretty cool. Sub system is a definite improvement, as nobody - not even casuals - was really a fan of the minigames.


The striking part, for a basic player like me, looks exactly the same.

[bmlimo]

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I almost forgot, correct me if im wrong, the guy with martial in the video is solid altair... nice guy and he had same ideas like us in OS

[skz1904]

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The only thing I got out of that is that Yves in working for EA. I'm happy for him even though I just watch his YT channel. Game looks like UFC 3.5.

[Blackman316]

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Game looks like UFC 3.5.

How do you mean? Like graphically? Or gameplay-wise? Because with the clinch reduction, it will never be 3.x. Wouldn't it rather be 4.5?

[aholbert32]

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yeah, fair dude. i don't get super riled up over it either. i mean i'm particularly passionate about this game because i don't play many other games but i'm not losing sleep either. i did the same thing when UFC 4 came out. Said my piece, and left once the game came out and just didn't buy it. UFC 3 was genuinely a big improvement in the series though. yeah, not good to insult people. can agree there.

if they all are big MMA fans and this is the game that they've come up with yet again then that is very confusing to me. I would have thought they wouldn't even be satisfied with their own product then.

its worthless trying to attribute blame to any person or team or anything cause i have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. i just know their should be more effort being put in to make this game reflect the UFC... cause that's what the game is about.

referee interactions is something people were clamouring for when we were all playing UFC 3 (I never cared about it that much personally). Never did I think it'd be marketed as a big change for UFC 5 lol. If you've been here a long time I feel like the product they're putting out hits way worse to be fair. UFC 3 obviously gave us the wrong idea on the kind of changes they could make between each game. That one had less time than 4 and 5, but much better changes overall.

Let me ask you a question: [B]How much control do you have over your job/work?

For example, I'm a lawyer. When it comes to deals we do, I can advise my comment about what approach we should take. I'm a huge sports fan and since I work for a sports company, I can advise related to the content. I can advise related to how much we should allocate toward what we create.

With that said, I'm not the president. I'm not the CEO. I'm not the head of creative. If one of them makes a decision about something that I disagree with here is absolutely nothing I can do.

Same for 99% of the employees at EA. ****, the same goes for someone like Hayes. If he is told to increase the number of sales and advised that the best way to do that is to change the direction of the game towards casuals.....I promise you thats what he's going to do (Not defending Hayes because there are some decisions he made or tried to make that had nothing to do with that,)

[aholbert32]

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I almost forgot, correct me if im wrong, the guy with martial in the video is solid altair... nice guy and he had same ideas like us in OS

It is. Yves (aka Solid) became a dev a few years ago. He isnt a sim focused as the people on this site but he does a great job on gameplay.

[Freakywwe]

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Let me ask you a question: [B]How much control do you have over your job/work?

For example, I'm a lawyer. When it comes to deals we do, I can advise my comment about what approach we should take. I'm a huge sports fan and since I work for a sports company, I can advise related to the content. I can advise related to how much we should allocate toward what we create.

With that said, I'm not the president. I'm not the CEO. I'm not the head of creative. If one of them makes a decision about something that I disagree with here is absolutely nothing I can do.

Same for 99% of the employees at EA. ****, the same goes for someone like Hayes. If he is told to increase the number of sales and advised that the best way to do that is to change the direction of the game towards casuals.....I promise you thats what he's going to do (Not defending Hayes because there are some decisions he made or tried to make that had nothing to do with that,)

Preach... Not sure how people think a company like EA works, but the decisions of what goes into the games probably comes from a few suits at the top that care about one thing and one thing only: Money.

Not sure where this idea that developers have this god-like ability to just put whatever and work on whatever they want. I'm sure they can give their thoughts and inputs, but at the end of the day, they will make whatever the person signing their paycheck wants them to make.

[Serengeti1]

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Let me ask you a question: [B]How much control do you have over your job/work?

For example, I'm a lawyer. When it comes to deals we do, I can advise my comment about what approach we should take. I'm a huge sports fan and since I work for a sports company, I can advise related to the content. I can advise related to how much we should allocate toward what we create.

With that said, I'm not the president. I'm not the CEO. I'm not the head of creative. If one of them makes a decision about something that I disagree with here is absolutely nothing I can do.

Same for 99% of the employees at EA. ****, the same goes for someone like Hayes. If he is told to increase the number of sales and advised that the best way to do that is to change the direction of the game towards casuals.....I promise you thats what he's going to do (Not defending Hayes because there are some decisions he made or tried to make that had nothing to do with that,)

i'm not sure why you're saying any of this to me? i'm aware that you're not the CEO of EA bro. lol. i'm aware that there are complex systems in place to decide how to allocate money to different things. none of that changes or invalidates my criticism of the game.

if you're just trying to say that you don't have a ton of power or influence over the game? I know. not sure what indicated otherwise

[aholbert32]

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i'm not sure why you're saying any of this to me? i'm aware that you're not the CEO of EA bro. lol. i'm aware that there are complex systems in place to decide how to allocate money to different things. none of that changes or invalidates my criticism of the game.

if you're just trying to say that you don't have a ton of power or influence over the game? I know. not sure what indicated otherwise

Here is what you said:

"if they all are big MMA fans and this is the game that they've come up with yet again then that is very confusing to me. I would have thought they wouldn't even be satisfied with their own product then."

Your statement infers that if the devs are "Big MMA fans", that they would come up with a better game.

My point is that them being "big MMA fans" can have nothing to do with the kind of game they work on because they dont have much control over the direction of the game.

Take the clinch: They likely all recognize that the clinch isnt an accurate represenation of the real life clinch but the direction the company has taken the game stipulates that they simplify the clinch so that its easier for the people they are trying to buy the game (casual fans).

I hope that this clarifies what I'm saying. If not, I'll just shut up because for some reasons my thought isnt coming through clearly.

[Serengeti1]

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Here is what you said:

"if they all are big MMA fans and this is the game that they've come up with yet again then that is very confusing to me. I would have thought they wouldn't even be satisfied with their own product then."

Your statement infers that if the devs are "Big MMA fans", that they would come up with a better game.

My point is that them being "big MMA fans" can have nothing to do with the kind of game they work on because they dont have much control over the direction of the game.

Take the clinch: They likely all recognize that the clinch isnt an accurate represenation of the real life clinch but the direction the company has taken the game stipulates that they simplify the clinch so that its easier for the people they are trying to buy the game (casual fans).

I hope that this clarifies what I'm saying. If not, I'll just shut up because for some reasons my thought isnt coming through clearly.

You would think so, yes.

what you're saying makes sense, but there is just a giant overall lack of attention to detail within the game. i don't care to argue about the internal state of EA as a company or how they make decisions. It would be futile because you don't know all of the intricacies of that either. And even if you did, it shouldn't be an excuse for the lack of changes made. They can and should have improved the game more than they have. regardless of the long winded tangents you want to go on defending them as a company lol. I'm not saying what you're saying is completely invalid, it makes sense. it's mostly fair. but it doesn't excuse the lack of changes to the game either.

idk what the point of this argument is though. everyone who is unbiased knows they could have done much more with these last two sequels. their efforts have been subpar and any community you visit online will reflect that opinion. other games don't have such a negative public perception. maybe there is some solid substantial reasoning behind this? yes, they're a big marketing machine and i'm not their target audience. but like i said... every community you visit online will have a majority negative perception of the last two sequels. none of these thousands of people matter? of course they do. that's a failure on their part and will reduce profit. obviously UFC 5 hasn't released yet but i'm confident it will get worse (but we'll see).

[Therebelyell626]

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Yeah this is a pass for me. It’ll be $20 by Christmas anyway.

Another stale, online competitive driven UFC title. I already own one of those. It’s called UFC 4

[aholbert32]

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You would think so, yes.

what you're saying makes sense, but there is just a giant overall lack of attention to detail within the game. i don't care to argue about the internal state of EA as a company or how they make decisions. It would be futile because you don't know all of the intricacies of that either. And even if you did, it shouldn't be an excuse for the lack of changes made. They can and should have improved the game more than they have. regardless of the long winded tangents you want to go on defending them as a company lol. I'm not saying what you're saying is completely invalid, it makes sense. it's mostly fair. but it doesn't excuse the lack of changes to the game either.

idk what the point of this argument is though. everyone who is unbiased knows they could have done much more with these last two sequels. their efforts have been subpar and any community you visit online will reflect that opinion. other games don't have such a negative public perception. maybe there is some solid substantial reasoning behind this? yes, they're a big marketing machine and i'm not their target audience. but like i said... every community you visit online will have a majority negative perception of the last two sequels. none of these thousands of people matter? of course they do. that's a failure on their part and will reduce profit. obviously UFC 5 hasn't released yet but i'm confident it will get worse (but we'll see).

Damn...I tried yall. I gave a reasoned explanation and I get called long winded and accused of defending EA.

I'm out. Ill start posting again around UFC 6's release. LOL.

[sportsfan8812]

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Damn...I tried yall. I gave a reasoned explanation and I get called long winded and accused of defending EA.

I'm out. Ill start posting again around UFC 6's release. LOL.

Dawg.... if SO many people have an issue with you and/or how you communicate, do you ever think that maybe, JUST maybe.... You might be part of the problem? No no, of course not

[Find_the_Door]

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Actually looks good, a step above a polished UFC 4, my only concerns:

1) Doctor stoppages becoming a meta finish. I think an early balancing solution here is to hide this from the opponent so they're not fishing for it or how close they are.

2) Simplifying the added depth of the ground game. I would be very careful with this. The ground game in EA UFC 2 and beyond has been overly simplified resulting in frequent stalemates at high level game play.

Actually adding depth here and a learning curve would be for the better imo.

3) Please tell me Big Nog is on this roster with this new submission system. That is all.

[Serengeti1]

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Damn...I tried yall. I gave a reasoned explanation and I get called long winded and accused of defending EA.

I'm out. Ill start posting again around UFC 6's release. LOL.

you tried what? you're failing to see the forest from the trees and are too fixated on your own narrative. i didn't say what you said was wrong either. just that it doesn't validate the lack of development in various areas of the game that many have been asking for for several years.