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  • WarMMA
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 4612

    #3601
    Re: MMA Off-Topic

    Originally posted by Dave_S
    I didn't see it, that's during my sleepy time.

    I read Floyd stopped the kid in the first round, I didn't know they go that hard in exhibition fights.



    Horiguchi is a freaking stud. (I haven't seen his recent fight)
    Yh I was out like a light too, but just started watching stuff this morning.

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    • WarMMA
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 4612

      #3602
      Re: MMA Off-Topic

      Everyone knew Floyd was gonna make that kid box and school his ***. He made Floyd look like prime Mike Tyson in there. Horiguchi is a beast though.
      Last edited by WarMMA; 12-31-2018, 01:54 PM.

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      • WarMMA
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 4612

        #3603
        Re: MMA Off-Topic

        Originally posted by MacGowan
        I don't wanna be that guy, but that looked seriously fixed.
        Yh I saw other ppl saying that too about the Mayweather fight. Doesn't look fixed imo though. I mean the kid got hit right behind the ear with one of Floyds best punches (check hook) and got is equalibrium rattled. And he still got back up...his corner stopped it. I dnt blame them cuz why would you let your fighter take lots of damage in a little exhibition match. Floyd would have more than likely starched him if they kept letting it go on.

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        • MacGowan
          Sassy
          • Jun 2017
          • 1681

          #3604
          Re: MMA Off-Topic

          Originally posted by WarMMA
          Doesn't look fixed imo though. I mean the kid got hit right behind the ear with one of Floyds best punches (check hook) and got is equalibrium rattled. And he still got back up...
          This to me looks seriously more like pro wrestling.



          This looks like he's pulling his punch.

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          • Dave_S
            Dave
            • Apr 2016
            • 7835

            #3605
            Re: MMA Off-Topic

            That one gif in particular looks bad, but I'd have to watch fight before I passed judgement.

            I wonder how much the kid made.

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            • WarMMA
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4612

              #3606
              Re: MMA Off-Topic

              Idk man...like I said, some others are saying the same. That's not what I got from it though. With kd's you can't really control how the body reacts...especially when your equalibrium is off. Looks like he was just trying to catch himself, but fell again. The bottom gif looks like he just responded that way cuz he was being smothered...notice he goes for a push off right after. The kid wasn't pulling punches to me. He cracked Floyd a couple times. Even on the final knockdown he hit him with a nice straight. But hey if it was fixed, its not like the japs aren't known for these things. I've seen other "fixed" fights, but this one didn't really look that way imo. Check left hook right behind the ear from Floyd even at 41, would rattle lots of guys. Thats one of Floyd's best punches...


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              • MacGowan
                Sassy
                • Jun 2017
                • 1681

                #3607
                Re: MMA Off-Topic

                Originally posted by WarMMA
                Idk man...like I said, some others are saying the same. That's not what I got from it though. With kd's you can't really control how the body reacts...especially when your equalibrium is off. Looks like he was just trying to catch himself, but fell again. The bottom gif looks like he just responded that way cuz he was being smothered...notice he goes for a push off right after. The kid wasn't pulling punches to me. He cracked Floyd a couple times. Even on the final knockdown he hit him with a nice straight. But hey if it was fixed, its not like the japs aren't known for these things. I've seen other "fixed" fights, but this one didn't really look that way imo. Check left hook right behind the ear from Floyd even at 41, would rattle lots of guys. Thats one of Floyd's best punches...


                I'm not saying Floyd can't KO him, or like Arial was asking "what would Rizin benifit from this?". I'm just saying I've watched plenty of real KO's with chicken dancing, weird collapses, and **** I've even seen a guy get an erection from being knocked the **** out. It's real easy to tell when it's real. And I'm saying this fight looked staged AF. You know that feeling you get when you watch a prank video on youtube, and you just know they're just acting it out? Yeah. this fight gave me that feeling.

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                • WarMMA
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 4612

                  #3608
                  Re: MMA Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by MacGowan
                  I'm not saying Floyd can't KO him, or like Arial was asking "what would Rizin benifit from this?". I'm just saying I've watched plenty of real KO's with chicken dancing, weird collapses, and **** I've even seen a guy get an erection from being knocked the **** out. It's real easy to tell when it's real. And I'm saying this fight looked staged AF. You know that feeling you get when you watch a prank video on youtube, and you just know they're just acting it out? Yeah. this fight gave me that feeling.
                  Could be staged AF who knows...this is japan we're talking about. But didn't look staged to me cuz of how and where the kid got hit. He wasn't ko'd, but he was rocked with no equalibrium. If you look at the replay, it was actually a counter left hook (cuz tenshins jab missed) landing right behind the ear, which is a very vulnerable spot we've seen hurt fighters a lot. Check some of Volkan Oezdemir's opponents. As far as the last knockdown, looks to me like he was just trying to catch himself and slipped and fell again cuz his glove slid on the canvas. At the end of the day who knows...the japs are known for fixing fights so wouldn't be a surprise. But idk why they would fix this fight. Its only an exhibition and Floyd would beat that kid in a boxing match maybe 10/10 times.

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                  • p_rushing
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 14514

                    #3609
                    Re: MMA Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by MacGowan
                    I'm not saying Floyd can't KO him, or like Arial was asking "what would Rizin benifit from this?". I'm just saying I've watched plenty of real KO's with chicken dancing, weird collapses, and **** I've even seen a guy get an erection from being knocked the **** out. It's real easy to tell when it's real. And I'm saying this fight looked staged AF. You know that feeling you get when you watch a prank video on youtube, and you just know they're just acting it out? Yeah. this fight gave me that feeling.
                    Originally posted by WarMMA
                    Could be staged AF who knows...this is japan we're talking about. But didn't look staged to me cuz of how and where the kid got hit. He wasn't ko'd, but he was rocked with no equalibrium. If you look at the replay, it was actually a counter left hook (cuz tenshins jab missed) landing right behind the ear, which is a very vulnerable spot we've seen hurt fighters a lot. Check some of Volkan Oezdemir's opponents. As far as the last knockdown, looks to me like he was just trying to catch himself and slipped and fell again cuz his glove slid on the canvas. At the end of the day who knows...the japs are known for fixing fights so wouldn't be a surprise. But idk why they would fix this fight. Its only an exhibition and Floyd would beat that kid in a boxing match maybe 10/10 times.
                    No need to fix this. He was there to lose so Rizin could have a headliner. He is an amateur boxer at best. He would probably lose to top level amateurs with the level of training he has.

                    He probably got to spare or some training out of it, so it should help him, but he is just learning.



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                    If you thought WMMA 145 was bad, PFL is creating a 155 for Kayla so they can pay her $1 million. Maybe Cyborg will go there as I think her contract is up. Then she won't have to cut as much weight.

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                    • WarMMA
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4612

                      #3610
                      Re: MMA Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by p_rushing
                      No need to fix this. He was there to lose so Rizin could have a headliner. He is an amateur boxer at best. He would probably lose to top level amateurs with the level of training he has.

                      He probably got to spare or some training out of it, so it should help him, but he is just learning.



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                      If you thought WMMA 145 was bad, PFL is creating a 155 for Kayla so they can pay her $1 million. Maybe Cyborg will go there as I think her contract is up. Then she won't have to cut as much weight.

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                      Yh that's my thing...why would they feel the need to fix a fight for the guy who has a way higher chance at winning? The kid clearly only had a punchers chance, so what's the point of fixing it for Floyd to win? If anything, it would have had to been fixed for Tenshin to win. If it was fixed, was the silliest fix i've seen in a while. As far as Cyborg, think she has one more fight left on her contract. I wonder if she'll rematch Nunes again or fight someone else?

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                      • MacGowan
                        Sassy
                        • Jun 2017
                        • 1681

                        #3611
                        Re: MMA Off-Topic

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                        • WarMMA
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4612

                          #3612
                          Re: MMA Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by MacGowan
                          Lol yes we get it MacGowan...you think the fight was fixed AF. Like I said, would be no surprise if it was. Its Japan. What I saw frm that knockdown though, is he was trying to catch himself and fell again cuz his glove slid on the canvas when he went down. You can see his glove slide along the canvas as he's trying to catch himself. We'll agree to disagree on this one. At the end of the day fixed or not, doesn't matter really. This fight gave the kid tons of exposure and money and his record won't be affected.

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                          • MacGowan
                            Sassy
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 1681

                            #3613
                            Re: MMA Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by WarMMA
                            Lol yes we get it MacGowan...

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                            • Dave_S
                              Dave
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 7835

                              #3614
                              Re: MMA Off-Topic

                              My opinion on that particular exhibition bout is that I don't care in the least if it was fixed or not.

                              I'm waiting for Floyd Sr. vs Gabi. That seems like a rizin-esque matchup.

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                              • WarMMA
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4612

                                #3615
                                Re: MMA Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by Dave_S
                                My opinion on that particular exhibition bout is that I don't care in the least if it was fixed or not.

                                I'm waiting for Floyd Sr. vs Gabi. That seems like a rizin-esque matchup.
                                My money's on Gabi if it ever happens

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