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[redsox4evur]

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Listening to Ramona Shelburne, she said that Rousey looks fine, yea her lips are little puffy and she should be able to do it. And Chael said that he doesn't think the fight shouldn't happen because it wouldn't be fair and there is nothing saying that the result would be different.

[jeremym480]

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It's straight from Ronda's mouth ... have you guys not seen any MMA news in the last few days? It is even on regular news sites.

She said her jaw isn't broken just that he teeth are too loose.

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I read that too. It can't remember where from though.

[The JareBear]

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I think UFC is making a mistake. UFC 200 is gonna sell no matter who Ronda fights, I am sure the rest of the card will be stacked regardless. If you have a champ ready to fight, you let the champ fight. Championship fights are big deals. I think people wanna see Holly fight again sooner than later anyway. Let Holly fight and give Ronda the next match at UFC 200. If something happens/someone gets injured just give Ronda someone else at UFC 200, like Nunes, don't matter, bottom line is I don't think you should ever keep champions on the shelf deliberately.

Also, who in the world would actually believe Ronda is going to be able to defeat Holly so soon after we just saw what we saw? Maybe instead of full on killing a golden goose, let her develop a little bit? If this actually happens the way Dana is saying its gonna happen, unfortunately, I think we may see Ronda in the cage for the last time. She won't come back after getting KTFO twice

[redsox4evur]

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I think UFC is making a mistake. UFC 200 is gonna sell no matter who Ronda fights, I am sure the rest of the card will be stacked regardless. If you have a champ ready to fight, you let the champ fight. Championship fights are big deals. I think people wanna see Holly fight again sooner than later anyway. Let Holly fight and give Ronda the next match at UFC 200. If something happens/someone gets injured just give Ronda someone else at UFC 200, like Nunes, don't matter, bottom line is I don't think you should ever keep champions on the shelf deliberately.

Alright UFC 200 is 7 months away...most champions only fight twice a year so once every 6 months. So really you're only delaying her next fight 1 month.

[p_rushing]

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Alright UFC 200 is 7 months away...most champions only fight twice a year so once every 6 months. So really you're only delaying her next fight 1 month.

Holm wanted to fight Tate and then Ronda at 200. Holm is not injured and wants to fight, but UFC is saying no. It's rare that a champ wants to be active and the UFC is saying no. There really aren't any 135 fights scheduled.

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[aholbert32]

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Holm wanted to fight Tate and then Ronda at 200. Holm is not injured and wants to fight, but UFC is saying no. It's rare that a champ wants to be active and the UFC is saying no. There really aren't any 135 fights scheduled.

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It's not that simple. They don't have an open main event slot open until march and the March PPV is in Brazil. If they have Holm fight in April in New York there is a chance that she isn't healthy enough to fight Rousey at 200.


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[BDKiiing]

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Dana and Lorenzo can NOT take the chance of Holm getting hurt or even her possibly losing before the Ronda rematch.

[redsox4evur]

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It's not that simple. They don't have an open main event slot open until march and the March PPV is in Brazil. If they have Holm fight in April in New York there is a chance that she isn't healthy enough to fight Rousey at 200.


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Dana and Lorenzo can NOT take the chance of Holm getting hurt or even her possibly losing before the Ronda rematch.

These are the bigs things. I don't think there is enough time for Holly to heal up for a fight in July especially if she is the main event in NY. And what happens if she tears an ACL or something and has to miss like 6-9 months because of an injury? Who does Rousey face for the interim belt? Or Holmes loses the belt to Tate? Do we really want to see Rousey v. Tate III at UFC 202 or whatever?

[The JareBear]

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These are the bigs things. I don't think there is enough time for Holly to heal up for a fight in July especially if she is the main event in NY. And what happens if she tears an ACL or something and has to miss like 6-9 months because of an injury? Who does Rousey face for the interim belt? Or Holmes loses the belt to Tate? Do we really want to see Rousey v. Tate III at UFC 202 or whatever?

There are worse things we could see than that.

Again, I don't think it's a bad thing if Holly doesn't fight Ronda next. In fact, I think it is good for both fighters.

Just my opinion.

I guess I am just not in the camp of "Rousy vs Holm II HAS TO HAPPEN" right now. Why throw Ronda in there in 7months just to get WTFPWNED again? Who does that help? Does that help the UFC? Again, whether it is Tate III or Nunes or Pena or Cyborg (I know she said she isnt going to 135, just saying, it doesnt matter) a Ronda fight will still sell. Until she gets KTFO again there is still the intrigue and mystery of the former unbeatable champ trying to regain glory, plus you can build Holly's name more by having her defend against someone else.

If Ronda steps into the cage against Holly at UFC 200, I think it's all over. She needs WAY more time to get better. The only way I see that possible going Ronda's way is if she goes full on "grapple spam" and just looks to judo her way to victory at costs, which might work if she's smart and can catch Holly over-committing on strike attempts but still is not very likely.

I really don't think it's gonna happen. I think something will change. There HAS to be someone, at least ONE person, in Ronda's corner who can tell her the truth. She ain't ready for the rematch. If I had to bet money on it I would say we see Holly and Ronda both fight someone else, and win, before the rematch happens.

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More I think about it, say Holly fights and gets hurt, Ronda fights for an interim belt. How is that worse than Conor/Aldo? Seems to have worked out pretty well for those two, especially Conor and the UFC.

Again, Ronda/Holm II as far as being next no matter what is NOT a necessity, IMO

[p_rushing]

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The only reason they fight each other next is money. UFC knows it will sell more than any other fight. UFC wants to cash in again. If Ronda loses again though, she loses any chance for a title just like Tate did. Then no one cares even for a Cyborg fight.

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[aholbert32]

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The only reason they fight each other next is money. UFC knows it will sell more than any other fight. UFC wants to cash in again. If Ronda loses again though, she loses any chance for a title just like Tate did. Then no one cares even for a Cyborg fight.

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If Ronda loses, she's likely retiring so it really doesn't matter. You strike while the iron is hot. Ronda will have 8 months since the Holm fight to prepare and adjust. Waiting longer doesn't help her at all.

[aholbert32]

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More I think about it, say Holly fights and gets hurt, Ronda fights for an interim belt. How is that worse than Conor/Aldo? Seems to have worked out pretty well for those two, especially Conor and the UFC.

Again, Ronda/Holm II as far as being next no matter what is NOT a necessity, IMO

They got lucky with Conor. If Mendes beats him, it would've been a complete disaster.

In the fight game, you strike while the iron is hot. You don't wait. Injuries can happen. Losses to other fighters can happen.

UFC 200 will be one of the biggest cards ever. It's the first event in the new Vegas arena. You have the chance to break the UFC PPV record. You don't risk losing the main event even did that means u pay Holm to sit for 7 mos.

[bakan723]

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She gonna get rekt again and be... d o n e after that. Watch.

[p_rushing]

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Neither Hall or Lobov should be in the UFC. Lobov was too scared to punch and Hall was rolling on the ground and couldn't get a finish when he had the fight on the ground the whole time.

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[johnhawthorne82]

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I hope not. He's got a pretty unimpressive resume for a supposed hall of famer. And of course I get that he died, but everyone dies. If he would have died maybe doing something heroic it might be a different story, but I don't think just because he won one title fight and got himself killed in the desert he should get into the hall of fame.

I hope I don't sound like a cold-hearted prick. It's kinda hard to argue this point without sounding like one I bet, especially on the internet.

Yeah your comment seems harsh however I do agreed that he should not be included in the HOF based on how he would not be considered if he was alive.

A pioneer for sure and apparently he was self taught at least at first by watching videos but yeah to keep integrity I dont think he should be in the HOF.