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[ERA]

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Dana wants Tate/Nunes on the same card as Rousey/Holm and Joanna/Gadelha

Honestly, I don't see Holm as a threat to Ronda. I've seen people online say that she's the only person who can beat Ronda, which I think is ridiculous. In the two times I've seen Holly fight, I wasn't all that impressed. I think Jessica Eye, Miesha Tate, and maybe Amanda Nunes would all beat her. I see it going as a typical Ronda fight; clinch, takedown, sub.

I'm not hating on Holm, I'm just calling it how I see it.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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Ronda will beat her, but at least Holm will try to use her distance. Not sure how much of a difference it will make, though.

[TheShizNo1]

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I know a couple of y'all laughed off the protecting Ronda theory, but this **** is real shady...

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[aholbert32]

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I know a couple of y'all laughed off the protecting Ronda theory, but this **** is real shady...

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I'm still laughing at that theory. Who are they protecting Ronda from? Tate? Lol. Didn't she break Tate's arm? Didn't she arm bar her the second time?

It's clear that Ronda didn't want to fight her again because she's beaten her twice. Holm doesn't deserve a shot based off of her performances but we are running out of people for Ronda to fight. Holm will be by far the best striker Ronda has ever faced.

[redsrule]

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Holm is terrible. Other than Cyborg nobody has a shot though. Ronda is a very good fighter in a division with awful ones.

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[Hiro1]

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Lol at protecting Ronda from Tate. I loathe the not informing Tate of the switch, but it happens all the time in sports. Guys hearing they're traded via Twitter or some non sense.

I've been disappointed in Holm's performance thus far as well, but saying she's terrible is a reach. She's arguably the best striker in WMMA trailing only Joanna Jed. Her distance striking, circling and use of kicks if nothing else will give us something different. I think Ronda's only had to defend 1 kick in her UFC career and that was Tate 2.

Holm's best bet is to talk a ton of sh*t about Ronda's striking and hope Ronda attempts her Betche game plan

[redsrule]

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Best striker in WMMA is nothing lol. She has no power. Ronda will run in like she does to everyone because they don't have any power. Only Cyborg could do any damage on the feet. She will be another opponent that Rousey beats in a minute.


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[TheShizNo1]

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I wasn't saying that they're protecting her with this, just that I think this could feed into it if you already think that. Her denying

Tate is bull****, imo. That's boxing level stuff to me. Yeah she's beat her twice, but I think everyone agrees that right now that would be her biggest challenge.

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[The JareBear]

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I only like the fight if that means Miesha and Cyborg are fighting for the next shot. That'd be great. I love that fight, and frankly I think Miesha wins

Frankly I think Pena is better than Holm. It doesn't matter tho, either of them get rag dolled first round right now (tho Pena has potential down the road).

This won't end well for Holly. I'm sorry. Ronda will eat a few Holm strikes to get inside and it will be over.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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[Hiro1]

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I wasn't saying that they're protecting her with this, just that I think this could feed into it if you already think that. Her denying

Tate is bull****, imo. That's boxing level stuff to me. Yeah she's beat her twice, but I think everyone agrees that right now that would be her biggest challenge.

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I don't agree at all. I believe Holm is her toughest match because of her movement. Ronda never cuts off the cage, her opponents either rush or back straight up until they're clinched. Many also look for the 1 punch knockout blow which is also a mistake, no woman at 135 has shown it and also lands you in her clinch.

If Holm does nothing else she keeps her opponent at a distance and circles out when they rush. Using non-power punches mixed with oblique kicks(Jon Jones kick to the knee) and side kicks to punish rush attacks.

How many times does Ronda bum rush Holm only to eat punches and realize Holm's gone before she stops? At points in Tate 2, Tate controlled the center of the ring only to shoot for a takedown and lose her advantage. Holms won't shoot into a judo throw.

I'm not saying Holm will win, but by being coached by Winkeljohn and her skill set she poses the greatest risk to Rousey.

[p_rushing]

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I'm not saying Holm will win, but by being coached by Winkeljohn and her skill set she poses the greatest risk to Rousey.

Yep that is her chance. She sticks to the gameplan and moves really well. Ronda won't respect the punching power, but she can kick hard. Like I said, she has to win a 5 round decision, so I think Ronda will get her on the ground at some point in those 5 rounds, so Ronda will win, but she has good takedown defense, is long, and moves well.


On Tate, Ronda may have beaten her 2 times, but she also is the only one to threaten her and push her into deeper water. She doesn't want to have to fight her again because this version of Tate is a better striker and maybe she will fight with a better IQ this time and not go for the takedowns for no reason.

[aholbert32]

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How many times does someone have to STOP a fighter before they can refuse to fight them again? "Deep waters" isnt a three round fight that wasnt competitive. In the second fight, Tate was surviving but was never a threat to win that fight.

Also, lets stop it with the "she's a better striker than she was". That narrative started when she dropped Jessica Eye. That works if you ignore the fact that Eye was actually winning the fight on the feet in the first two rounds. She also didnt show much of an improvement in her striking in the Nakai or McMann fights.

My issue with the "snub" is that Dana said she was next and the UFC didnt tell Tate before they announced it. I'm amazed that the UFC hasnt reeled in Dana when it comes to promising title shots. He makes the promise and there is a 50/50 shot that this will happen.

[p_rushing]

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How many times does someone have to STOP a fighter before they can refuse to fight them again? "Deep waters" isnt a three round fight that wasnt competitive. In the second fight, Tate was surviving but was never a threat to win that fight.

The only issue is that there is no one else. If the division had any depth, it wouldn't be an issue to me. Holm has beaten no one, so 2 fights in a row with no top 10 wins in a very weak division. Make her beat a top 5 first.

If you aren't going to fight Cyborg, then she needs to be fighting Tate, maybe Nunes, if Cat's head is ever right again. Keep alternating between those women no matter how many times they fight. Then if anyone else can beat one of them, they can fight her.


Saw a rumor that UFC wants to draw in the casuals again and have a quick Ronda finish. Casuals won't know about Holm, will just see the record and boxing titles, won't see the no quality wins. Then builds up to UFC 200 and Cyborg and retirement after that.

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[Beantown]

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Keep alternating between those women no matter how many times they fight. Then if anyone else can beat one of them, they can fight her.

Oh yes...because simply alternating between those two over and over sounds so incredibly entertaining.