UFC 101: Declaration - August 8th in Philadelphia

[feedthehorse28]

Re: UFC 101: Declaration - August 8th in Philadelphia

Ah. I saw it pretty differently. I thought Sadollah looked great on his feet, especially with his kicks. He just got caught being too aggressive for a second.

I think if he got back up and cleared his head for a second, he would have been fine. He actually looked really sharp for the 20 seconds we got to see.

oh i definitely think he couldve won that fight but what i meant by "prolonging the inevitable" was that once he got rocked i dont think he wouldve recovered and once he got back on his feet johny wouldve just continued to lay it on until he was KTFO or the ref absolutely HAD to stop it. i wasnt saying that sadollah was gonna lose no matter what. but like i said before, id love to see a rematch cause if that wouldve have gone three rounds i think we all can agree it wouldve been a war

[Parasight]

Re: UFC 101: Declaration - August 8th in Philadelphia

I'm more upset about the punches to the back of the head. Once Amir got rocked, Hendricks unloaded like 5-6 punches that all hit the back of Amir's head without warning.

[Mossfan8480]

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From Fightmetric.com:

"Fun Facts from Silva-Griffin

* Silva landed 13 of 25 total strikes, for an accuracy percentage of 52%. That is his lowest hit rate since coming to the UFC and the third lowest of his career. He landed 51% against Ryo Chonan and 50% in his first pro fight against Luiz Azeredo. Silva has still never had a fight in which he landed less than half his attempted strikes.

* If you want to consider Silva's head movement, consider that Griffin landed 1 of 35 strikes thrown to Silva's head, or 3%. The average is 29%.

* With his three knockdowns against Griffin, Silva becomes the only fighter in UFC history with two fights containing three knockdowns. He also did it in the second fight against Rich Franklin.

* The three knockdowns also moves Silva into second place for most knockdowns in UFC history, behind only Chuck Liddell."

http://www.fightmetric.com/blog/2009...a-griffin.html


- Forrest Griffin only landing 1 of 35 strikes thrown to Silva's head is amazing.

[Stumbleweed]

Re: UFC 101: Declaration - August 8th in Philadelphia

* If you want to consider Silva's head movement, consider that Griffin landed 1 of 35 strikes thrown to Silva's head, or 3%. The average is 29%.

Damn, I knew it was bad, but jeez.

[bgeno]

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- Forrest Griffin only landing 1 of 35 strikes thrown to Silva's head is amazing.

I figured it was about that low.


The final flurry that Forrest threw (when Anderson's hands were down, and it was very clear he knew Griffin was hurting) was dodged amazingly. He moved his head out of the way on the first one... no big deal... then he simply just moved his chin about 3 inches to avoid the second one. It's just ridiculous how The Spider doesn't get hit.

[Wet Bandit]

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* The three knockdowns also moves Silva into second place for most knockdowns in UFC history, behind only Chuck Liddell."

And Liddell has 20 fights in the UFC, compared to Anderson's 10.

[Wet Bandit]

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I figured it was about that low.


The final flurry that Forrest threw (when Anderson's hands were down, and it was very clear he knew Griffin was hurting) was dodged amazingly. He moved his head out of the way on the first one... no big deal... then he simply just moved his chin about 3 inches to avoid the second one. It's just ridiculous how The Spider doesn't get hit.

It was like watching guys hit mitts where their partner throws back some scripted strikes so the fighter can dodge them as a part of the routine. It was incredible.

Couture was on MMA Live on ESPN.com after the fights and said that he's sparred with Forrest and would never even consider standing in front of him with his hands down. But there was Anderson doing it and dodging punches like he was in the freaking Matrix.

[jb12780]

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Kenny Florian's next fight should be against Clay Guida.

Diego vs. BJ whenever that happens is going to be a war. Diego in my opinion has a legitimate shot beating BJ. If Diego can takedown BJ like GSP did, he will take BJ's belt.

[MC Fatigue]

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Kenny Florian's next fight should be against Clay Guida.

Diego vs. BJ whenever that happens is going to be a war. Diego in my opinion has a legitimate shot beating BJ. If Diego can takedown BJ like GSP did, he will take BJ's belt.

I'd like to see Guida and Florian.

However, I think Sanchez should have to fight Maynard before he gets a title shot. I don't know why - but I don't feel two wins is enough to get a title shot. I think he should fight once more, and I think Maynard is more than deserving of the chance.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: UFC 101: Declaration - August 8th in Philadelphia

From Fightmetric.com:

"Fun Facts from Silva-Griffin

* Silva landed 13 of 25 total strikes, for an accuracy percentage of 52%. That is his lowest hit rate since coming to the UFC and the third lowest of his career. He landed 51% against Ryo Chonan and 50% in his first pro fight against Luiz Azeredo. Silva has still never had a fight in which he landed less than half his attempted strikes.

* If you want to consider Silva's head movement, consider that Griffin landed 1 of 35 strikes thrown to Silva's head, or 3%. The average is 29%.

* With his three knockdowns against Griffin, Silva becomes the only fighter in UFC history with two fights containing three knockdowns. He also did it in the second fight against Rich Franklin.

* The three knockdowns also moves Silva into second place for most knockdowns in UFC history, behind only Chuck Liddell."

http://www.fightmetric.com/blog/2009...a-griffin.html


- Forrest Griffin only landing 1 of 35 strikes thrown to Silva's head is amazing.

WOOOOWWWWW. That's worse than a video game. he almost got a perfect on him. If it wasn't for tick damage....

[jb12780]

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I'd like to see Guida and Florian.

However, I think Sanchez should have to fight Maynard before he gets a title shot. I don't know why - but I don't feel two wins is enough to get a title shot. I think he should fight once more, and I think Maynard is more than deserving of the chance.

Agreed. Maynard and Sanchez would be pretty good as well.

Also, whenever Hendo vs. Silva 2 goes down, i have a feeling Hendo will give Silva problems. If he follws his first round gameplan in their first fight and takes the fight to the ground, i think he can GNP Silva.

[DueceDiggla]

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I think the MW belt is being vacated because Anderson is moving up to LHW permanently. Hendo vs. Nate/Maia winner for the belt would make sense.



BJ beats Diego all day. His striking is too sloppy. He's not taking BJ down either. Understand that GSP's takedowns are on a completely other level then anyone else in MMA. BJ's TD defense is also one of the best in MMA. BJ by RNC in the 2nd rd.


Florian vs Edgar

[goh]

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I'd rather see Guida vs. Penn. Penn would be gassed during the staredown. (Yes I know Sanchez won so he gets the shot,just saying that'd be more intresting)

[Stumbleweed]

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Plus Guida takes shot after shot without getting KO'd... at the least, it'd be a nice long fight, even if BJ is trying to take it to him standing.

But yeah, Diego makes the most sense for the UFC and in terms of recent wins/losses. I'm not stupid enough to bet against BJ in that one though... I was on the Florian train but that came to a screeching halt obviously.

[Wet Bandit]

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Agreed. Maynard and Sanchez would be pretty good as well.

Also, whenever Hendo vs. Silva 2 goes down, i have a feeling Hendo will give Silva problems. If he follws his first round gameplan in their first fight and takes the fight to the ground, i think he can GNP Silva.

Agreed.

That's also the reason I haven't quite moved Anderson up to #1 in my P4P. With GSP, I find it hard to see how he can be beat (unless he gets caught, obviously). If he fights a great striker, he can easily take the fight to the ground and punish his opponent there. If he fights a great wrestler or BJJ guy, his can keep it standing since there's few guys with better striking, and none of those guys are great wrestlers. And hell, if he wants he might just outwrestle those great wrestlers anyway, like he did to Koscheck.

With Anderson, though, there's obviously no one that's gonna beat him on the feet unless they catch him. I'd equate Anderson's striking to GSP's wrestling. Both are just in a class of their own. But I don't think Anderson's grappling is near where GSP's kickboxing is, and that's what sets them apart in my mind. Anderson's susceptible to being taken down and controller. It's not likely, mind you, but it's there. We've seen glimmers of it.

And that sort of glimmer of a weakness is just not something we've seen from GSP yet.