UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

[CYST2000]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Man, UFC cards are getting weaker and weaker. this will be two ppv's in a row without a title defense. WTF!!! Dana I know you can do better than this.

[PBlast]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

I really just wanna see the Liddell fight, really hope it was still against Tito though. Ah well.

[darlon]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Man, UFC cards are getting weaker and weaker. this will be two ppv's in a row without a title defense. WTF!!! Dana I know you can do better than this.

They just fought for the Light Heavyweight belt last month. Heavyweight, Middleweight, and Lightweight are already scheduled. Welterweight is going to be after the next TUF season.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Man, UFC cards are getting weaker and weaker. this will be two ppv's in a row without a title defense. WTF!!! Dana I know you can do better than this.

Are you serious? There is one scheduled for July and two in August? There are only 5 belts...they cant be defended at every PPV.

[filtertmp]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Are you serious? There is one scheduled for July and two in August? There are only 5 belts...they cant be defended at every PPV.

Listen, I agree that its a little stretch to expect title fights on every card but I do agree with the sentiment to a degree.

Am I going to watch this card? Absolutely.. but you have to recognize that it doesn't have many fights of consequence on it as it stands now. No #1 contender fights.. the thiago and dunham fights could mean something but not in the immediate future.

This is kind of a breather card where they focused on good (striking) fights rather than important fights.. makes sense as I believe its the first show in vancouver.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Listen, I agree that its a little stretch to expect title fights on every card but I do agree with the sentiment to a degree.

Am I going to watch this card? Absolutely.. but you have to recognize that it doesn't have many fights of consequence on it as it stands now. No #1 contender fights.. the thiago and dunham fights could mean something but not in the immediate future.

This is kind of a breather card where they focused on good (striking) fights rather than important fights.. makes sense as I believe its the first show in vancouver.

I'm sorry but that sentiment is BS. We just had a #1 contender match in LHW. The #1 contender is HW is set (Velasquez). The #1 contender in MW (Belfort is injured). There was a #1 contender match in WW 2 events ago and the #1 contender LW fight is scheduled for August. Again, there are only 5 belts and you can only have so many contenders.

I'm not defending this card as a good card. I dont even plan to buy it. But to complain that there are no title fights or #1 contender fights and to make it seem as if its the UFC's fault is BS.

[filtertmp]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

I'm sorry but that sentiment is BS. We just had a #1 contender match in LHW. The #1 contender is HW is set (Velasquez). The #1 contender in MW (Belfort is injured). There was a #1 contender match in WW 2 events ago and the #1 contender LW fight is scheduled for August. Again, there are only 5 belts and you can only have so many contenders.

I'm not defending this card as a good card. I dont even plan to buy it. But to complain that there are no title fights or #1 contender fights and to make it seem as if its the UFC's fault is BS.

Uhh.. My complaint was that the fights weren't particularly important, not that it didn't have a #1 contender fight (though I referenced the lack of a contender fight in emphasizing that point). This card has a single fighter in the top 10 rankings for all five weight divisions.. paulo thiago.

This card doesn't have a single top #5 contender (contender, not contender matchup) on it. The results of this card could pass and literally not affect any title picture for 10 or 15 more ufc events.

The UFC knew that would diminish its value but didn't care because they are in a newly sanctioned venue that sold out faster than any card ever in spite of the lackluster lineup. They are counting on a TUF matchup to carry a weak card.

[CYST2000]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

It's a fact these cards are getting weaker. No.1 contenders matches are fine in a co-main event fashion, but two guys who are past their prime is a little bit of a stretch for a main event. Now I know they had two title defenses in April's PPV, but the HW title should have been on this card. I like Lesnar, but how much time does he need, I mean he was cleared to start training back in February! I love MMA, and the UFC, but $55.00 is a lot for such a meager card. And this is my opinion.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Basically it's a lackluster card but there's not much to do about it.

It's just how things work out sometimes in this sport.

[PBlast]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Can't have cards packed with superstars every month, sometimes scheduling just doesn't work out. Like I said I personally just wanna see Chuck fight, but any fight can be potentially exciting. Either way, 116's card MORE than makes up for 115's mediocrity.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

It's a fact these cards are getting weaker. No.1 contenders matches are fine in a co-main event fashion, but two guys who are past their prime is a little bit of a stretch for a main event. Now I know they had two title defenses in April's PPV, but the HW title should have been on this card. I like Lesnar, but how much time does he need, I mean he was cleared to start training back in February! I love MMA, and the UFC, but $55.00 is a lot for such a meager card. And this is my opinion.

Then you would be making the same complaint about 116 that you are making about 115. You dont have to buy this card. Its just ridiculous that you expect a title fight on every card without taking into consideration injuries and scheduling.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Exactly. This isn't like a video game. Unpredictable things happen which effect the entire year in terms of events/cards

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Exactly. This isn't like a video game. Unpredictable things happen which effect the entire year in terms of events/cards

Exactly plus he's acting as if its been 3-4 months since a title defense. We had one 2 events ago and will have another one in 3 weeks. I dont know how anyone can blame the UFC for this.

[CYST2000]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Then you would be making the same complaint about 116 that you are making about 115. You don't have to buy this card. Its just ridiculous that you expect a title fight on every card without taking into consideration injuries and scheduling.

I never said there should be a title at every event, and I never compared this to the video games. I said that there shouldn't be two ppv's in a row without a title shot, and that Liddell and Franklin are not enough to carry this card, IMO. I understand that every ppv can't have superstars out the wazoo, but at least bring in another match to help sell this card. All I know is that over the past year the cards have gotten increasingly more dull. I know your a mod, but please try to quote me a little better next time. I have my opinion and you have yours. This card like the one before it, and most of the ones before 113 have been real snoozers. Again IMO!

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

I never said there should be a title at every event, and I never compared this to the video games. I said that there shouldn't be two ppv's in a row without a title shot, and that Liddell and Franklin are not enough to carry this card, IMO. I understand that every ppv can't have superstars out the wazoo, but at least bring in another match to help sell this card. All I know is that over the past year the cards have gotten increasingly more dull. I know your a mod, but please try to quote me a little better next time. I have my opinion and you have yours. This card like the one before it, and most of the ones before 113 have been real snoozers. Again IMO!

Why do you keep saying "In your opinion"? Thats obvious. That doesnt meant that your opinion cant be wrong or not based in fact or reality.

Again, there are only 5 titles. Taking into consideration injuries, scheduling and having 2 titles defended on one card....its almost impossible to have a title defended every other card.

I have no problem with you saying its a bad card. I acually agree. I have a problem with you acting as if its easy to have a title dended on every other card.