UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

[mjarz02]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

UFC isnt to blame here. Alot of title holders are coming off injury and we will see plenty of title fights in the next few months. However, this is a weak card. I know they cant but if I got a discount i might buy it, but not at its current price. UFC is makin some serious bank, this could be their make-up for that terrible silva fight if they reduced the price.

[CYST2000]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

UFC isn't to blame here. Alot of title holders are coming off injury and we will see plenty of title fights in the next few months. However, this is a weak card. I know they cant but if I got a discount i might buy it, but not at its current price. UFC is making some serious bank, this could be their make-up for that terrible silva fight if they reduced the price.

Exactly. I feel this is a poor effort for a card, and the price should reflect it. I wouldn't even buy this at full price if Tito was still in it. I mean why is there a rubber match when the same man won very convincingly in the last two outings.

I love how people in here will put words in your mouth that you didn't say, but after telling you that your wrong about something come to the conclusion that (I actually agree with you). I actually pay for the ppv's that I see, and no I never come in here looking for certain people asking where I can get the stream of the fight. I actually pony up the cash to see these events, and feel slapped in the face when approached by my favorite company in my favorite fighting sport when they throw a card in my face and ask me to buy it.

And when I put (IMO) in a post, it doesn't mean you can't disagree with me, but if your going to disagree with me, please don't take my words out of context, and at least say something insightful instead of (I actually agree with you).

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Exactly. I feel this is a poor effort for a card, and the price should reflect it. I wouldn't even buy this at full price if Tito was still in it. I mean why is there a rubber match when the same man won very convincingly in the last two outings.

I love how people in here will put words in your mouth that you didn't say, but after telling you that your wrong about something come to the conclusion that (I actually agree with you). I actually pay for the ppv's that I see, and no I never come in here looking for certain people asking where I can get the stream of the fight. I actually pony up the cash to see these events, and feel slapped in the face when approached by my favorite company in my favorite fighting sport when they throw a card in my face and ask me to buy it.

And when I put (IMO) in a post, it doesn't mean you can't disagree with me, but if your going to disagree with me, please don't take my words out of context, and at least say something insightful instead of (I actually agree with you).

LOL. I find it hilarious that you want to act as if your initial post wasnt absolutely ridiculous. This is your original post in case you forgot:

"Man, UFC cards are getting weaker and weaker. this will be two ppv's in a row without a title defense. WTF!!! Dana I know you can do better than this."

Its a ridiculous post. Its OK though. Everybody does that once in a while. Ive done it in the past. My original response to you (and everyone since then) is that its silly to think there should be a title defense every other PPV. I didnt say **** about it not being a weak card.

I wont even talk about how silly it is to feel "slapped in the face" because the UFC put on a weak card. Again, you dont have to buy the PPV. Its ok. You can skip one. Really, you can skip one.

Anyway, I'm done with responding to you about this. Back to discussing the card.

[deaduck]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Don't sleep on the Pat Barry vs Mirko fight...could be explosive in a pure striker vs striker way.

[filtertmp]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Don't sleep on the Pat Barry vs Mirko fight...could be explosive in a pure striker vs striker way.

rothwell vs yvel could be a great striking battle too.

There is a chance it might be sloppy groin kicking and the loser whining about the stoppage but I think it should be a candidate for KO of the night

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

LOL. I find it hilarious that you want to act as if your initial post wasnt absolutely ridiculous. This is your original post in case you forgot:

"Man, UFC cards are getting weaker and weaker. this will be two ppv's in a row without a title defense. WTF!!! Dana I know you can do better than this."

Its a ridiculous post. Its OK though. Everybody does that once in a while. Ive done it in the past. My original response to you (and everyone since then) is that its silly to think there should be a title defense every other PPV. I didnt say **** about it not being a weak card.

I wont even talk about how silly it is to feel "slapped in the face" because the UFC put on a weak card. Again, you dont have to buy the PPV. Its ok. You can skip one. Really, you can skip one.

Anyway, I'm done with responding to you about this. Back to discussing the card.

I was like "didn't dude say that?"

Anyway we get a card in a month or so.

[goh]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

116/117 are both stacked. Thiago Silva possibly went from the main event at 108 to the undercard at 117.

Though yah they probably could've done better here. Not sure why Ryan Bader isn't on this for example,he probably won't be on one until 120.

[CYST2000]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

LOL. I find it hilarious that you want to act as if your initial post wasnt absolutely ridiculous. This is your original post in case you forgot:

"Man, UFC cards are getting weaker and weaker. this will be two ppv's in a row without a title defense. WTF!!! Dana I know you can do better than this."

Its a ridiculous post. Its OK though. Everybody does that once in a while. Ive done it in the past. My original response to you (and everyone since then) is that its silly to think there should be a title defense every other PPV. I didn't say **** about it not being a weak card.

I wont even talk about how silly it is to feel "slapped in the face" because the UFC put on a weak card. Again, you don't have to buy the PPV. Its ok. You can skip one. Really, you can skip one.

Anyway, I'm done with responding to you about this. Back to discussing the card.

Don't call my post's B.S. or call them ridiculous, after all It was my opinion, and I don't need you letting me know how crazy you think I am. Disagree if you want, but don't try to put words in my mouth. I never said that I needed a title shot every other ppv, but at least give me a better card. I merely stated the fact that this would be two months in a row without a good title fight, and also added (in another post) that no.1 contenders matches make good co-main events. Did you even read those posts?

I'm done with this thread until the ppv is over, I'll be back to see the results for this quickly thrown together card.

[Sandman42]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

If they can't put on a title match or a highly publicized #1 contenders fight (like Rashad/Rampage) then I think a match between 2 legends is the next best thing. Sure neither Liddell or Franklin are top fighters anymore, but everyone knows them, and those names can sell cards to longtime MMA viewers.

[TheShizNo1]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

I'm excited to see Liddell back in the octagon again. Even anxious to see Cro Cop. not a great card, but not even the worse one in the past 6-8 months.........imo

[jeremym480]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

Exactly. I feel this is a poor effort for a card, and the price should reflect it. I wouldn't even buy this at full price if Tito was still in it. I mean why is there a rubber match when the same man won very convincingly in the last two outings.

I love how people in here will put words in your mouth that you didn't say, but after telling you that your wrong about something come to the conclusion that (I actually agree with you). I actually pay for the ppv's that I see, and no I never come in here looking for certain people asking where I can get the stream of the fight. I actually pony up the cash to see these events, and feel slapped in the face when approached by my favorite company in my favorite fighting sport when they throw a card in my face and ask me to buy it.

And when I put (IMO) in a post, it doesn't mean you can't disagree with me, but if your going to disagree with me, please don't take my words out of context, and at least say something insightful instead of (I actually agree with you).

I've bought 95% of the UFC PPV's the past two years and I agree that it is a "weak card", With that being said just because it appears to be a weak card doesn't necessarily mean that there will be a bad night of fights after it's all said and done (if that makes sense).

One of the weaker main events in recent memory was Couture/Coleman in UFC 109. When I first saw they were the headliners I was like WTF. However, I ended up getting the PPV anyway and was actually entertained by all the fights that night. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's MMA and you never really know how good or bad a card is until it's over. I'm a MMA fan and a UFC fan and I support things that I like. So despite what some may call a weak card, I'm going to buy the PPV because I understand that there can't be title fights or number one contender's matches every single PPV.

[filtertmp]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

One of the weaker main events in recent memory was Couture/Coleman in UFC 109. When I first saw they were the headliners I was like WTF. However, I ended up getting the PPV anyway and was actually entertained by all the fights that night. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's MMA and you never really know how good or bad a card is until it's over. I'm a MMA fan and a UFC fan and I support things that I like. So despite what some may call a weak card, I'm going to buy the PPV because I understand that there can't be title fights or number one contender's matches every single PPV.

Most would agree that ufc 109 (coleman/couture) was one of the weaker cards in memory.

That card featured 4 top 10 MWs (a de facto #1 contender fight at MW and a #2 contender fight) and a pair of top 10 WW's battling. Three top 5 fighters emerged from that card (2 with immediate title shots) and nate the great obviously didn't fall too far.

You can never tell whether a card is going to have great or boring fights, regardless of the fighters or matchups. I agree 100%. However, you can always tell, prior to a card, the stakes, importance, gravitas of the matchups.

UFC 112 (x2), 113 and 116 all have/had championship fights and because of the draw of a title defense didn't have strongly established contender's fights for the title fight divisions.

If rashad evans, chael sonnen or frankie edgar get hurt before the next title defenses, who do you replace them with keeping in mind that joe silva almost always draws from recent card groupings to keep training camps and fighter activity concurrent? UFC 115 would be functionally useless in filling any of those slots (though it wouldn't shock me to see liddell get the couture treatment if he wins decisively.. sigh).

Injuries happen (forrest and vitor) but they are only a problem if your list of legitimate title hunters is too short... and totally unaltered by an entire UFC card slotted in a critical position between 4 (*FOUR*) different title fights (115).

Consistency with the quality of fighters on cards is important in fluidly defining the top 5 or 10 fighters in a division so that the title picture is always clear. This card (UFC 115) offers absolutely no clarity to any title picture in the near future. I believe thats worthy of criticism.. and with that point reiterated (abrasively) multiple times I'll stop whining now.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

I don't blame the people for saying it's a weak card because it is. A lot of people bought tickets to this card so they could scalp them but are now stuck with expensive tickets. CG and Stubhub is flooded with tickets right now.

[Gibbz]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

I can't remember Liddell looking as ripped as he is going into this fight.

[jeremym480]

Re: UFC 115 - Vancouver/June 12th, 2010

I can't remember Liddell looking as ripped as he is going into this fight.

Agreed. I don't ever recall him having a six-pack before.