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  • darlon
    Banned
    • Mar 2007
    • 449

    #466
    Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

    I think Anderson taught us a very important lesson tonight:

    Once you've secured the win, coast to victory.

    =P

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    • Trevelyan
      MVP
      • Oct 2003
      • 1047

      #467
      Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

      A couple of points....

      Alves needs to move to MW. It doesn't matter if hes too small or any other excuses, hes missed weight too many times, and I don't understand how UFC even gives him the option at this point. He should be told to move to MW, end of discussion.

      I think Silva should fight Belfort, then have Chael fight Okami in the meantime for the #1 contender. Also, my heart is broken that Chael lost.

      Oh God GSP vs. Fitch, I can't wait to watch GSP lay on him for 5 rounds because Fitch won't give up. Yay.

      I wish Roy Nelson would get serious and lose the gut. I think hes destined to be a HW gatekeeper forever because he always gasses. He has incredible cardio for a fat guy, but at the end of the day its still his downfall.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #468
        Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

        Originally posted by darlon
        I think Anderson taught us a very important lesson tonight:

        Once you've secured the win, coast to victory.

        =P
        LOL...Its a shame but I was saying the same thing. I was yelling "lay and pray at the TV" but Chael isnt the type to do that.

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #469
          Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

          Originally posted by Trevelyan
          A couple of points....



          I think Silva should fight Belfort, then have Chael fight Okami in the meantime for the #1 contender. Also, my heart is broken that Chael lost.
          Chael just beat Okami so I dont think he should have to fight him again. Have Chael fight the winner of Bisping/Akiyama.

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          • DiPIE
            Banned
            • Jul 2009
            • 184

            #470
            Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

            Alves said he was moving to 185 you poop.

            Also dos Anjos totally won that fight before the jaw injury.

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            • LingeringRegime
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2007
              • 17089

              #471
              Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              LOL...Its a shame but I was saying the same thing. I was yelling "lay and pray at the TV" but Chael isnt the type to do that.
              For that very fact I gained a lot more respect for him. So much so, that I would vote for him. Even if he ran against someone else.

              I was telling everyone I was with last night that "Sonnen needs to finish him." Even when it looked like it was over in the 5th round. After round 1, I knew that Silva was going to win. Sonnen had him hurt, and he couldn't finish the job. I doubt that he will even win the rematch. That stuff plays with your mind.

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              • JerseySuave4
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 5152

                #472
                Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                Originally posted by BlueNGold
                Post-fight press conference is over now. I guess I'll give Chael credit for accepting the loss and all. Still not a fan though.

                When he made that joke about doing TUF with Anderson, it actually sounds like a good idea to me. If only Anderson wanted to speak English. I think he can but just doesn't bother to. He didn't seem to have too hard a time speaking English at the end of his interview with Joe Rogan after the fight.

                But man, what a card tonight. I was very hyped for Silva/Sonnen but pretty much every other fight was great as well. And Silva/Sonnen provided what I think is going to go down as one of my better sports memories. That finish was nuts. I thought Anderson was done once Chael had him on his back in the 5th round but then somehow Anderson pulled it out with that triangle. Thank god there was no controversy at the end about Chael tapping or not tapping because that would've been a mess.
                Yea i respect Chael after what he did last night but i still dont like the guy and think that he's still obnoxious.

                As for doing TUF, i dont think Anderson speaks english well enough to not only give his fighters clear instructions but also to talk to the camera. Yes he can speak english but it is still limited and like most others that try to speak english that typically dont, it comes across really broken, really basic, really boring and slightly retarted because they stick to the basic words and phrases they know. So while he can speak it, he can't speak it well enough to consistantly talk that way. It would be very annoying for the viewer.

                Unless they did something like what they did with Bisping and Hendo and make it a Brazil vs USA TUF so that Anderson could at least speak portuguese to his fighters and then maybe you could do it but that would once again get tired just reading his subtitles all the time.

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                • The Chef
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 13684

                  #473
                  Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                  Originally posted by DiPIE
                  Alves said he was moving to 185 you poop.

                  Also dos Anjos totally won that fight before the jaw injury.
                  Yeah, I was slightly annoyed hearing them refer to Guida's victory as a submission when it clearly wasnt. During the post fight press conference a reporter asked him something to the effect of how he felt to win the fight with a submission which made no sense considering it wasnt actually a sub that won it and more an injury that stopped it.
                  http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #474
                    Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                    Sonnen is hilarious.

                    Dude said "I'm going after the #1 if I have to move up to 205 or if I have to go on a diet and fight Aldo"...

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                    • Gotmadskillzson
                      Live your life
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 23428

                      #475
                      Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                      Basically......Sonnen LANDED over 200 punches and still COULDN"T KO Anderson Silva. That would mess with the mind of any fighter. Because in a rematch I doubt he will be able to land that many punches again.

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                      • The15thunter
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1639

                        #476
                        Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                        people saying anderson silva can't be considered the pound for pound best because he was losing the fight handily are wrong. that's like saying michael jordan can't be the best player of all-time because he had to hit so many game-winning shots.
                        xbox gt - bmorerep87

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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #477
                          Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                          Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                          Basically......Sonnen LANDED over 200 punches and still COULDN"T KO Anderson Silva. That would mess with the mind of any fighter. Because in a rematch I doubt he will be able to land that many punches again.
                          How do you figure he wouldn't be able to take Silva down time and time again? Unless you think the ribs really played that large a factor in his takedown defense.

                          In regards to a rematch, pretty much the only way Sonnen would win is by decision.

                          Tonight proved that Sonnen doesn't have the power to knock Anderson out and at the same time while being able to effectively take him down, isn't able to finish him even with hurt ribs. However I don't foresee how Anderson would be able to keep Sonnen at a distance.
                          Originally posted by The15thunter
                          people saying anderson silva can't be considered the pound for pound best because he was losing the fight handily are wrong. that's like saying michael jordan can't be the best player of all-time because he had to hit so many game-winning shots.
                          There are more than several faulty aspects of your simile. Don't even know where to begin

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #478
                            Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                            Originally posted by The15thunter
                            people saying anderson silva can't be considered the pound for pound best because he was losing the fight handily are wrong. that's like saying michael jordan can't be the best player of all-time because he had to hit so many game-winning shots.
                            That is a horrible analogy. Its more like saying Jordan is the greatest player ever if in one of his biggest games he shot 1-25 but that one shot he hit was a gamewinner.

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #479
                              Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                              How do you figure he wouldn't be able to take Silva down time and time again? Unless you think the ribs really played that large a factor in his takedown defense.

                              In regards to a rematch, pretty much the only way Sonnen would win is by decision.

                              Tonight proved that Sonnen doesn't have the power to knock Anderson out and at the same time while being able to effectively take him down, isn't able to finish him even with hurt ribs. However I don't foresee how Anderson would be able to keep Sonnen at a distance.

                              There are more than several faulty aspects of your simile. Don't even know where to begin
                              I just dont believe the ribs excuse. One, Sonnen was 3-7 on takedown techniques so Silva was clearly able to fend of some takedowns. The issue wasnt his ability to stop takedowns as much as it was his ability to get back up after getting taken down.

                              Two, I saw Silva take multiple punches, knees and kicks to both ribs and I barely saw a grimace. Silva is superhuman at times but I doubt he would be able to take that punishment without showing any pain. The only time I saw him grimace was after getting punched in the face.

                              Absolutely agree that the only way Sonnen would win was by decision. He gameplanned the fight perfectly.....except for the last 2 minutes.

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                              • Gotmadskillzson
                                Live your life
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 23428

                                #480
                                Re: UFC 117 - Anderson Silva v. Chael Sonnen

                                Yeah he take him down at will..........however knowing in the back of his mind that is how he lost, do you really think Sonnen is going to want to stay on the ground with Anderson again ? I don't think so.

                                Same thing happened in the Filho fights. In the second fight Sonnen took him down and then quickly got back up. He didn't stay in the guard long at all like he did in the 1st fight. He looked to stand up more and just took him down for points.

                                And I believe Sonnen will do the same thing with Anderson in the rematch. Take him down for points but not stay there.

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