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  • feedthehorse28
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 286

    #46
    Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

    Originally posted by sven
    Updated card......

    MAIN CARD

    * Champ Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen (for middleweight title)
    * Ricardo Almeida vs. Matt Hughes
    * Rafael dos Anjos vs. Clay Guida
    * Thiago Alves vs. Jon Fitch*
    * Junior Dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson*

    PRELIMINARY CARD

    * Tim Boetsch vs. Thiago Silva
    * Dustin Hazelett vs. Rick Story
    * Dennis Hallman vs. Ben Saunders
    * Charlie Brenneman vs. Johny Hendricks
    * Stanislav Nedkov vs. Rodney Wallace

    That is a pretty strong prelim card to go with a good main card.
    damn, thats a hell of a card. especially when you consider its following whats probably gonna be the biggest main event of all time (lesnar vs. carwin)

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    • filtertmp
      Rookie
      • Jan 2005
      • 182

      #47
      Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

      Originally posted by Wobberknockle
      Filter: Look at the names you listed. The men that have submitted Sonnen are all, with the exception of Forrest, high level BJJ. Sobral, Horn, and so on, are all elite grapplers. There is no shame in being tapped by any one of the names you dropped.

      I agree 100%.. as you said, there is no shame in getting tapped by elite BJJ guys. However, chael sonnen is apparently the 2nd best MW in the UFC right now and has "earned" the right to fight the best fighter in company history (and possibly the p4p best fighter in all of MMA right now).

      If (stylistically) he doesn't matchup well I think thats a relevant derision of the fight considering silva has a very strong TDD/BJJ game (comparable or better than any of the aforementioned fighters with the exception of maia) and has the advantage in literally every aspect of the fight except for trashtalking.

      I guess my frustration stems from silva's age (35 or so I believe)... he has limited fights left in his career to waste on middle of the pack middleweights when he could try to cement his legacy as the best ever by beating guys like GSP, shogun, et al (minus machida/JDS).

      Let me rephrase my criticism of this fight.. after silva embarrassed forrest griffin did anyone really think he needed to fight sonnen before moving up to LHW? Is sonnen a greater threat than LHW's of forrest's caliber?

      He annihilated a journeyman LHW and top 5 LHW in just 4 minutes combined (with no threat of danger) and has beaten 11 straight opponents. He is the best fighter in the promotion fighting in it's worst division but apparently can't move up?

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #48
        Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

        Originally posted by sven
        Updated card......

        MAIN CARD

        * Champ Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen (for middleweight title)
        * Ricardo Almeida vs. Matt Hughes
        * Rafael dos Anjos vs. Clay Guida
        * Thiago Alves vs. Jon Fitch*
        * Junior Dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson*

        PRELIMINARY CARD

        * Tim Boetsch vs. Thiago Silva
        * Dustin Hazelett vs. Rick Story
        * Dennis Hallman vs. Ben Saunders
        * Charlie Brenneman vs. Johny Hendricks
        * Stanislav Nedkov vs. Rodney Wallace

        That is a pretty strong prelim card to go with a good main card.

        I wonder why Alves/Fitch isnt the co-main event?

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #49
          Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

          Originally posted by filtertmp
          I agree 100%.. as you said, there is no shame in getting tapped by elite BJJ guys. However, chael sonnen is apparently the 2nd best MW in the UFC right now and has "earned" the right to fight the best fighter in company history (and possibly the p4p best fighter in all of MMA right now).

          If (stylistically) he doesn't matchup well I think thats a relevant derision of the fight considering silva has a very strong TDD/BJJ game (comparable or better than any of the aforementioned fighters with the exception of maia) and has the advantage in literally every aspect of the fight except for trashtalking.

          I guess my frustration stems from silva's age (35 or so I believe)... he has limited fights left in his career to waste on middle of the pack middleweights when he could try to cement his legacy as the best ever by beating guys like GSP, shogun, et al (minus machida/JDS).

          Let me rephrase my criticism of this fight.. after silva embarrassed forrest griffin did anyone really think he needed to fight sonnen before moving up to LHW? Is sonnen a greater threat than LHW's of forrest's caliber?

          He annihilated a journeyman LHW and top 5 LHW in just 4 minutes combined (with no threat of danger) and has beaten 11 straight opponents. He is the best fighter in the promotion fighting in it's worst division but apparently can't move up?
          If Silva wouldnt have danced around like an idiot against Maia killing his drawing power, we would see him in a superfight against GSP and probably on the Ultimate Fighter. Also Silva is going to be forced into fights like this until he vacates the MW belt. If he vacated it he would be free to move to 205 and take headline fights against Rampage, Rua, Evans etc. Its not the UFC's fault....It's Silva's

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          • Phillmattic
            MVP
            • May 2003
            • 1071

            #50
            Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

            Thiago Silva on the undercard eh? I guess since the prelims are televised now and usually pull in tons of viewers that isn't the worst thing.

            Still a little odd.
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            • Sandman42
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2004
              • 15186

              #51
              Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

              Yeah, they definitely have to do the prelims on Spike for this. Both the Silva and Hazelett fights I want to really see.
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              • The Chef
                Moderator
                • Sep 2003
                • 13684

                #52
                Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

                Here is a link to a video of, of all people, Steven Seagal training with Anderson Silva. I cant make out what theyre saying for obvious reasons but I found the video somewhat interesting....

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                • feedthehorse28
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 286

                  #53
                  Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

                  Originally posted by The Chef
                  Here is a link to a video of, of all people, Steven Seagal training with Anderson Silva. I cant make out what theyre saying for obvious reasons but I found the video somewhat interesting....

                  http://www.mmamania.com/2010/6/20/15...and-his-secret
                  That has to be a joke...

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #54
                    Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

                    The hell, I just noticed Hughes/Almeida is the co-main event. I hate that. I don't care about Hughes anymore, does anyone?

                    T. Alves getting added

                    T. Silva on the card too

                    Dos Santos

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                    • aholbert32
                      (aka Alberto)
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 33106

                      #55
                      Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      The hell, I just noticed Hughes/Almeida is the co-main event. I hate that. I don't care about Hughes anymore, does anyone?

                      T. Alves getting added

                      T. Silva on the card too

                      Dos Santos
                      Hughes is still a big name so I understand it. Plus the card is stacked. Alves/Fitch 2 and Nelson/Dos Santos.

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #56
                        Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

                        I understand it. I'm just glad the next three cards are must watches.

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                        • sven
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 6021

                          #57
                          Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

                          Originally posted by aholbert32
                          Plus the card is stacked. Alves/Fitch 2
                          Why do people keep acting like this is a good fight? Alves has no TDD and Fitch doesn't have the balls to stand and bang. It's gonna be another 15 minute Fitch dry hump fest.
                          Last edited by sven; 06-23-2010, 02:12 PM.

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                          • CYST2000
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 555

                            #58
                            Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

                            Originally posted by Phillmattic
                            Thiago Silva on the undercard eh? I guess since the prelims are televised now and usually pull in tons of viewers that isn't the worst thing.

                            Still a little odd.
                            Yeah I don't understand this on the pre, but this on the main dos Anjos vs. Clay Guida is? Oh well, best card of the year.
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                            • sven
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6021

                              #59
                              Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

                              Originally posted by CYST2000
                              Yeah I don't understand this on the pre, but this on the main dos Anjos vs. Clay Guida is? Oh well, best card of the year.
                              Guida is the most popular fighter on this card and its not even close.

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                              • redsrule
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 9396

                                #60
                                Re: Not Only is Anderson Silva Fighting Chael Sonnen at UFC 117... It's the Main Even

                                Originally posted by Sandman42
                                Yeah, they definitely have to do the prelims on Spike for this. Both the Silva and Hazelett fights I want to really see.
                                Me too. Dustin Hazelett is from Cincy and i live 10 mins for him. I will always cheer for him, plus thiago is exciting
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