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  • Gotmadskillzson
    Live your life
    • Apr 2008
    • 23441

    #406
    Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

    Ortiz can barely even speak Spanish.
    That really has no bearing on whether or not somebody is mexican. In Chicago alone you got a ton of mexican americans who can't speak spanish. Just because your mexican don't mean you automatically grow up speaking spanish.

    I mean hell my wife is french canadian but she can't speak French.....

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    • Gotmadskillzson
      Live your life
      • Apr 2008
      • 23441

      #407
      Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

      Lesnar just has a terrible reaction to getting hit.
      Yeah it is called the bully syndrome. Most bullies can dish it but can't take it. I mean look at the Gracies. Their success was really based off of fear. But when more and more people learned about BJJ and that fear was gone from it, people started kicking their arse.

      Same thing happened with Chuck Lidell, people feared standing with him, but when he got KO'ed by Randy, people seen he was human after all. Then Jardine dropped him a couple of times, Rashaad KO'ed him, etc.

      Carwin debunked the myth that Brock is immortal. Cain's camp seen that hey if you actually fight back, Brock will fold. Brock whole thing was fear. He was hyped that way. The 280 pound beast who can move like a middleweight, one of a kind, never been a heavyweight like him before.

      Brock needs to evolve. Ground n pound might have worked in the 90s, but not anymore. Too many fighters nowadays come in with a wrestling background, so therefore you simply can't hold your average fighter on the ground a whole fight anymore.

      Brock needs to look at history. Mark Coleman, Mark Kerr, Dan Severen, etc........relics of the past now. They domnated in the 90s with ground n pound because most fighters back then were brawlers and didn't have a wrestling background.

      Same thing with Tito Ortiz and Matt Hughes. They dominated because of fear and they were in an era where many weren't good wrestlers. Matt Hughes evolved a tad bit, but his prime is over.

      Watch from here on out, the game plan to beat Brock will be hit him in the mouth at a controlled pace. Avoid the horns, stick n move.

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      • LingeringRegime
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2007
        • 17089

        #408
        Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

        Sherdog forums are funny. Some of the people over there are out there.

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        • Gotmadskillzson
          Live your life
          • Apr 2008
          • 23441

          #409
          Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

          Sherdog forums have always been way out there. I remember I think it was Thursday or Wednesday, somebody on there posted about the EA MMA game and said what is up with all these euro fighters in this game ?

          Then he went on and on in a long rant. This guy actually believed only Americans, Brazilians and Japanese were MMA fighters and that the game should only include fighters fromt those 3 places.

          I mean the way that guy was talking, it was if though the USA invented MMA. Sherdog eventually ended up closing that thread, because it pissed off so many people. But it was funny while it lasted though.

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          • jeremym480
            Speak it into existence
            • Oct 2008
            • 18198

            #410
            Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

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            • Bona Fide
              Rookie
              • Jun 2009
              • 203

              #411
              Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

              Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
              That really has no bearing on whether or not somebody is mexican. In Chicago alone you got a ton of mexican americans who can't speak spanish. Just because your mexican don't mean you automatically grow up speaking spanish.

              I mean hell my wife is french canadian but she can't speak French.....
              It obviously has no bearing on someone's heritage, but it's a huge reason that an ethnic community supports a fighter. Cain spent time doing promos with Mexican television and radio shows. He is someone Mexican people can actually get behind. I mean there is a reason that Tito Ortiz isn't hugely popular among Mexicans, and it's not for a lack of trying on his part.

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              • Gotmadskillzson
                Live your life
                • Apr 2008
                • 23441

                #412
                Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                Originally posted by jeremym480
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                I wonder if he just drove back to minnesota instead of fly back.

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                • BlueNGold
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 21817

                  #413
                  Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                  Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
                  - lol at Lesnar pushing the cop away during his entrance. White said he had been "fighting" with Lesnar earlier in the week and I wonder if this had anything to do with the WWE stuff. Even though the WWE is fake, there's still a chance of geting injured. The UFC would be crazy to let him go back to the WWE even if it was just for one match.

                  - Shields didn't land one quality strike but he still won the match. The Hitman has nobody to blame but himself but it bothers me when you can win without doing any damage. Shields cut 20pds in a 24 hr period before the weigh-in. He needs to share how he did this because there are a lot of people out there that want to lose weight. Based on this performance, I don't think Shields deserves a title shot but I don't want to watch Shields vs. Fitch or Fitch vs. GSP 2. Just give me Silva vs. GSP before both guys are on the downside of their careers.

                  - I thought this was the best card on paper for 2010 and it didn't live up to the hype. It wasn't a bad card but it wasn't great either.

                  - Checked out the Arianny Celeste Playboy spread and just like GSP, I wasn't impressed. I don't find her attractive. BTW when was the last time Playboy had a POTM that was %100 natural?
                  I was pleased.
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                  • CYST2000
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 555

                    #414
                    Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                    Had anyone noticed that it looks like Cain was hitting Lesnar in the back of the head when he first got Brock down. I am not saying that's why he won, because he did finish the fight, but it seemed Brock looks up at some point as to say, "look at his punches Herb". I thought it was worth noting.
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                    • LingeringRegime
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 17089

                      #415
                      Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

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                      • LingeringRegime
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 17089

                        #416
                        Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                        Originally posted by CYST2000
                        Had anyone noticed that it looks like Cain was hitting Lesnar in the back of the head when he first got Brock down. I am not saying that's why he won, because he did finish the fight, but it seemed Brock looks up at some point as to say, "look at his punches Herb". I thought it was worth noting.
                        I noticed it also. But, I don't think it would have prevented him losing. It just delayed the inevitable.

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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #417
                          Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                          Yeah a lot of people are saying that Cain was hitting Brock in the back of the head, which I believe he did at most twice.

                          Really don't think it had an impact of the result even though he broke the rules.

                          Anyway, so what is next for the HW division?

                          Does the winner of Carwin/Nelson get the winner of Brock/Mir and then the winner of that gets #1 contender?

                          Is Brock/Mir official?

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #418
                            Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                            Yeah a lot of people are saying that Cain was hitting Brock in the back of the head, which I believe he did at most twice.

                            Really don't think it had an impact of the result even though he broke the rules.

                            Anyway, so what is next for the HW division?

                            Does the winner of Carwin/Nelson get the winner of Brock/Mir and then the winner of that gets #1 contender?

                            Is Brock/Mir official?
                            Brock/Mir isnt official because of Brock. The KO and cut will have him on medical suspension until Jan/Feb and then with all this craziness with the WWE who knows if Brock will want to fight then. Also I doubt that Mir will want to be in the shelf until the Summer waiting for a Brock fight.

                            I say if Carwin walks through Nelson, you give him the next shot since he already crushed Mir and his title fight loss wasnt that bad. If Nelson wins, you give him Mir and have that winner fight the Cain/JDS winner.

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                            • ex carrabba fan
                              I'll thank him for you
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 32744

                              #419
                              Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                              Nelson impressed the hell out of me against JDS.

                              Even though Nelson got used as a punching bag, he didn't get KO'd and actually hit JDS and made JDS look semi human.

                              Too bad Nelson is in that shape and not a little younger.

                              It will be really really interesting to see him go against Carwin.

                              I'm done with Mir frankly, so I hope Carwin wins because I would love to see Carwin against Cain or JDS

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                              • LingeringRegime
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 17089

                                #420
                                Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                                Yeah, I hope Carwin wins. So he can fight the winner of Cain/JDS. He had better be wearing out that treadmill though.

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