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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #391
    Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

    Originally posted by DaSmerg
    Seems to speak a the inglish good enough IMO...


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    I just watched him on MMA Live. He has a VERY basic hold of English and needed Ed Soares on stage with him for translations. I dont see him going on Jim Rome or Sportscenter to promote the fight.

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    • aholbert32
      (aka Alberto)
      • Jul 2002
      • 33106

      #392
      Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

      Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson

      He has none......Everybody in his camp are wrestlers except for Pat Barry.

      Second point I want to address is this notion that Cain is going to make millions of mexicans into MMA fans......

      Excuse me but where have most of you been the past 15 years ? There are already hundreds of Mexican mma fighters. Most of them just aren't in the UFC and most don't go above welterweight. Even though there are a dozen or so heavyweight and light heavyweight mma fighters.

      I mean isn't Miguel Torres mexican ? Hermes Franca ? Tito Ortiz ?

      Roger Huerta ?
      Leonard Garcia ?
      Manny Tapia ?
      Efrain Escudero ?
      Ricco Rodriguez ?
      Nate Diaz ?
      Nick Diaz ?
      Diego Sanchez ?
      Joe Stevenson ?
      Gilbert Melendez ?

      Mexico has embraced MMA for the past 20 years, particularly the BJJ discipline. I mean hell there was a mexican BJJ school in chicago when I was a kid.


      No one on that list except for Ortiz is a draw and Ortiz is barely considered Mexican by Mexican fight fans. I've never seen hundreds of Mexican flags at Ortiz, Sanchez or even Huerta fights.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #393
        Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        WTH.

        I hope Brock isn't dabbling and isn't flirting at all with this idea.

        F that BS

        If this guy is as dedicated and focused as he said he was he wouldn't even be thinking about doing anything else but UFC.
        I think its OK. One its not like he will have to do a ton of training for wrestling. Two, he probably isnt planning to fight again until Summer. WM is in March so he can fit that in.

        With that said, I'm not sure his UFC contract will allow this.

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        • LingeringRegime
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2007
          • 17089

          #394
          Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
          WTH.

          I hope Brock isn't dabbling and isn't flirting at all with this idea.

          F that BS

          If this guy is as dedicated and focused as he said he was he wouldn't even be thinking about doing anything else but UFC.
          Yeah, if he goes there I will lose some respect for the guy for sure.

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          • VanCitySportsGuy
            NYG_Meth
            • Feb 2003
            • 9351

            #395
            Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

            - lol at Lesnar pushing the cop away during his entrance. White said he had been "fighting" with Lesnar earlier in the week and I wonder if this had anything to do with the WWE stuff. Even though the WWE is fake, there's still a chance of geting injured. The UFC would be crazy to let him go back to the WWE even if it was just for one match.

            - Shields didn't land one quality strike but he still won the match. The Hitman has nobody to blame but himself but it bothers me when you can win without doing any damage. Shields cut 20pds in a 24 hr period before the weigh-in. He needs to share how he did this because there are a lot of people out there that want to lose weight. Based on this performance, I don't think Shields deserves a title shot but I don't want to watch Shields vs. Fitch or Fitch vs. GSP 2. Just give me Silva vs. GSP before both guys are on the downside of their careers.

            - I thought this was the best card on paper for 2010 and it didn't live up to the hype. It wasn't a bad card but it wasn't great either.

            - Checked out the Arianny Celeste Playboy spread and just like GSP, I wasn't impressed. I don't find her attractive. BTW when was the last time Playboy had a POTM that was %100 natural?

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            • SuperBowlNachos
              All Star
              • Jul 2004
              • 10218

              #396
              Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

              Anyone know of pics of Lesnar post fight? Either right away or later on?

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              • Gotmadskillzson
                Live your life
                • Apr 2008
                • 23441

                #397
                Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                So Brock is going to pull a Ken Shamrock huh ? Fight in the UFC, get his arse kicked then go to fake fighting for a bit then try to go back to real fighting ?

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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23441

                  #398
                  Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                  BTW when was the last time Playboy had a POTM that was %100 natural?
                  Not since the 60s and 70s. <!-- / message -->

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                  • Gotmadskillzson
                    Live your life
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 23441

                    #399
                    Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                    When I think about it...........WWE did this before....they had Ken Shamrock fight against this karate background wrestling dude in a no holds barred MMA style fight back in the 90s.

                    And being WWE is FAMOUS for re-doing story lines and match angles over and over again...that is probably what Vince is going to do.

                    Have Brock fight Undertaker in a no holds barrred MMA style fight.

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                    • The Chef
                      Moderator
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 13684

                      #400
                      Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                      Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                      When I think about it...........WWE did this before....they had Ken Shamrock fight against this karate background wrestling dude in a no holds barred MMA style fight back in the 90s.

                      And being WWE is FAMOUS for re-doing story lines and match angles over and over again...that is probably what Vince is going to do.

                      Have Brock fight Undertaker in a no holds barrred MMA style fight.
                      Im fairly sure it was Steve Blackman they had him fight against.

                      I cant imagine Brock's UFC contract would allow him to take part in this when he refused to let a guy like Fedor take part in Sambo if he was to sign. Having said that, I suppose there is a way the clause was never put in as nobody ever thought Lesnar would ever seriously consider returning to WWE for anything.

                      In the end I really hope Lesnar turns it down as I really dont want the UFC affiliated with the WWE anymore then they have to be already.
                      http://www.twitch.tv/kitm9891

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                      • Bona Fide
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 203

                        #401
                        Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                        Originally posted by aholbert32
                        No one on that list except for Ortiz is a draw and Ortiz is barely considered Mexican by Mexican fight fans. I've never seen hundreds of Mexican flags at Ortiz, Sanchez or even Huerta fights.
                        Ortiz can barely even speak Spanish.

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                        • Trevelyan
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1047

                          #402
                          Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                          The UFC would tie Lesnar up in court for years before they would ever let him do even a single match in WWE, I wouldn't waste too much time thinking about it. Its not like he needs the cash anyway, not only is he getting paid huge money to show up for UFC, but I would bet anything he gets a portion of PPV buys, which is where the real money is at.

                          I saw someone mention the jake shields fight...he gassed really badly about halfway through the second round, if not sooner. If he comes to fight anyone whos got a heartbeat in that division, in that same condition he was in saturday, he'll get wrecked. I know UFC will never do this because they don't want another Jon Fitch/GSP fight, but could you imagine Jon Fitch vs Jake Shields? That would be a massacre.

                          Also I thought Arianny looked amazing in playboy, they didn't have to photoshop her at all. lol

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                          • Gibbz
                            All Star
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 8240

                            #403
                            Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                            Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
                            Arianny Celeste...I don't find her attractive.


                            Okay...

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                            • CaptainZombie
                              Brains
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 37851

                              #404
                              Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                              Originally posted by Trevelyan
                              The UFC would tie Lesnar up in court for years before they would ever let him do even a single match in WWE, I wouldn't waste too much time thinking about it. Its not like he needs the cash anyway, not only is he getting paid huge money to show up for UFC, but I would bet anything he gets a portion of PPV buys, which is where the real money is at.
                              You never know, unless some kind of cross promotion happens between WWE and UFC to allow Lesnar to wrestle at Mania for one match. How long is Lesnar tied up with UFC contract wise?

                              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                              Hopefully Lesnar's stand up defense improves so he won't have to think he has to rush his opponent in fear of just standing and exchanging.

                              If he didn't have such shoddy stand up he would have a lot more confidence in just letting things flow naturally. With that size advantage as well as athletic ability he could dominate the division for a long time if he would just have average stand up.

                              I believe the whole reason his rushing in gameplan was implemented was because he and his camp knew he would get destroyed on his feet. And he has two fights in a row.
                              Lesnar needs to learn how to take punches, because both Carwin and Cain have exposed his greatest weakness. If anything, Lesnar should be working on this moving forward or else more fighters will take advantage.
                              HDMovie Room

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                              • XFactah416
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1708

                                #405
                                Re: UFC 121 - Lesnar vs. Velasquez

                                Lesnar just has a terrible reaction to getting hit.

                                I actually think his chin is good. He took a swarm from Carwin and Cain, although a lot of Carwin's shots were just hitting his arms.

                                Until he can adjust to getting hit though, he will always be in flight mode once someone hits him. And, people who have great wrestling credentials (like Carwin and Cain), who can stuff Lesnar's initial takedown bullying attempts and get up immediately and not let him stay on top, are going to hit Brock because Brock's stand up technique is weak. (However, with that also said, his jab looks good actually..)

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