Your right, except Rampage was coming of a big layoff and big weight cut, and still almost Ko'ed him. Tito hit Rashad with a few good shots tonight. Rampage would catch him again imo. I have Rampage beating Jones (100% bias) so I think we will see that fight again.
UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Your right, except Rampage was coming of a big layoff and big weight cut, and still almost Ko'ed him. Tito hit Rashad with a few good shots tonight. Rampage would catch him again imo. I have Rampage beating Jones (100% bias) so I think we will see that fight again.Cincinnati Reds University of Kentucky Cincinnati Bengals
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Jones doesn't really pump the jab so his reach won't matter as much. He uses the length of his legs more than anything. Also Evans will be the first guy Jones has fought who doesn't stand in front of him. Rua, Bader, Matchusenko, Hamill and Vera didn't use much movement in the stand up. Evans will.Comment
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Ive watched that fight a ton of times and Rampage was lost for 13 of those 15 min. Rashad's chin is suspect though (look at the Machida and Silva fights). I have Rampage beating Jones too but thats because its a 25 min fight and I've never seen Jones' chin tested. I think Ramp will catch him once in 25 min and we will see if Jones can take a punch.Last edited by aholbert32; 08-06-2011, 10:48 PM.Comment
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Dana gave Brian Ebersole a "thank you for getting those horrible shorts off of TV" bonus. LOL.Comment
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Ive watched that fight a ton of times and Rampage was lost for 13 of those 15 min. Rashad's chin is suspect though (look at the Machida and Silva fights). I have Rampage beating Jones too but thats because its a 15 min fight and I've never seen Jones' chin tested. I think Ramp will catch him once in 25 min and we will see if Jones can take a punch.
I still think Rampage beats Rashad if and when they fight again.Cincinnati Reds University of Kentucky Cincinnati Bengals
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Ive watched that fight a ton of times and Rampage was lost for 13 of those 15 min. Rashad's chin is suspect though (look at the Machida and Silva fights). I have Rampage beating Jones too but thats because its a 15 min fight and I've never seen Jones' chin tested. I think Ramp will catch him once in 25 min and we will see if Jones can take a punch.
Rampage used to slam guys, he was unpredictable, had great ground control, body shots, ground and pound etc. Now, hes just one dimensional, and wont stray from his game plan, even when hes losing.
Jones Muay Thai is getting better and better, hes a great striker and a much better athlete, I like Rampage, but I cant see him beating Jones. Jones wins in 2nd round.Comment
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
I know there's injuries and stuff but
Doubt Rory is a GSP but that was a nice win for him. Certianly has talent.
At least Philippou admitted the fight wasn't good. Not sure why Rogan wouldn't.
Hallman deserved that for wearing those things.
Thought Akiyama would have a better chance than he did.
Tito's best chance was for Evans to have been rusty. He wasn't.
Don't see why he wouldn't beat Rampage a second time if that were to happen.
Outside of the anything can happen factor don't see why he would beat Jones.Comment
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Interesting, I think Rampage is too flatfooted, slow, and like Evans said "head is too big and easy to hit". If Rampage ends up on his back, hes done. Couple that with the fact Jonez is much faster and can hit Rampage from so many angles, Rampage wont see it coming.
Rampage used to slam guys, he was unpredictable, had great ground control, body shots, ground and pound etc. Now, hes just one dimensional, and wont stray from his game plan, even when hes losing.
Jones Muay Thai is getting better and better, hes a great striker and a much better athlete, I like Rampage, but I cant see him beating Jones. Jones wins in 2nd round.
Against Machida he fought much differently than he did against Hamill. He looked great in the clinch against Machida and against Hamill should great takedown defense and striking.Comment
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Hmm..see I dont agree with the game plan comment. He doesn't stray from it because it usually works. The guy is 10-2 since 2005 with one of those losses being a fight that many think he won (against Griffin). He almost beat Evans in the third round go their fight. Also, he does gameplan differently depending on the fighter.
Against Machida he fought much differently than he did against Hamill. He looked great in the clinch against Machida and against Hamill should great takedown defense and striking.Comment
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
We had 4 finishes on the PPV but I thought this was one of the worst cards this year from top to bottom. I got spoiled from the last PPV. I also wasn't a big fan of the Philly crowd from the stupid booing to the lack of crowd noise.
I almost feel asleep during the facebook prelims.
Evans looked terrific tonight. He looked really quick and sharp. I don't see Jones destroying him.Comment
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Hmm..see I dont agree with the game plan comment. He doesn't stray from it because it usually works. The guy is 10-2 since 2005 with one of those losses being a fight that many think he won (against Griffin). He almost beat Evans in the third round go their fight. Also, he does gameplan differently depending on the fighter.
Against Machida he fought much differently than he did against Hamill. He looked great in the clinch against Machida and against Hamill should great takedown defense and striking.Cincinnati Reds University of Kentucky Cincinnati Bengals
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Keep in mind though that this card was absolutely riddled with injuries. The original proposed card was pretty nice on paper.
I want to see more of Gustaffson, who looks like he could be a nightmare match up for a lot of guys with his length and his height. The way he finished Hamill was pretty impressive, reminiscent of Bones Jones going crazy on Hamill (but legally,).
The line for Rashad / Bones when it originally came out was pretty lopsided. I think more respect will be given to Rashad when the new line comes out, assuming Bones beats Rampage, but I still think Bones will be a heavy favorite over anyone in the LHW division.
Vitor Belfort has a serious, serious problem when he goes to finish fights. I know it's clearly unintentional, but it's twice now where he's hit the back of the head on a stationary target when he's won. That stuff is dangerous man.Comment
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Re: UFC 133, Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz-- 8/6/11
Didn't watch the fights tonight, seems like it went pretty much as I thought. Tito lasted a little longer than I thought though.Last edited by LingeringRegime; 08-07-2011, 02:58 AM.Comment
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