UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

[redsrule]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

Aw, we have a UFC Fantasy League?

Damn, I would have joined.

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There you can join for the next event.

[hogfan]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

I watched the fight again this morning.

Aldo definitely won the 3rd, IMO. I could see someone giving him the 5th, as well.

It comes down to what you value more. volume of strikes or strikes that actually have impact. Even though Edgar out struck Aldo in the 5th, Aldo was still connecting with the more meaningful shots.

I know I voiced this earlier in the thread, but Rogan and Goldberg's real-time striking analysis can be misleading. They spent the last 3 rds talking about how Aldo was tired when he was still knocking Edgar's head back... and failed to comment on these significant strikes.

[Romano338]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

What a disappointing main card.
I jumped from start of 3rd to decision on Maia vs Fitch (some back control with good defense is ok, nice to see, but not for 15 minutes straight) and I started closing my eye watching Nog - Evans.

The only thing I'll remember is Overeem getting knocked-out! I jumped of happiness!
Overeem just have a too big mouth, the guy thinks he is the best fighter in the world.
Bigfoot just trusted himself and knocked him out perfectly!

Aldo - Edgar confirms what I think at each event: I don't like 5 rounds at all.

And the whole main card confirmed that biggest card on the paper aren't the best, and ba lot of bad cards on the paper are way better

[Noles4ever]

5 rounds is terrible.

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[Romano338]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

Glad to find somebody who hate it too.
I think that a bad fight going to 5 is horrible, of course, and a good fight going to 5 is not necessarily better. The guys think "5 rounds" and do much less in the beginning of the fight because they don't to gas out.
And most of the time, the end is sloppy because they are gassed.
Plus, most 5 rounds are title fights, and most title fights goes to decision. Because the stake is huige and both guy are at a close level.
So it's 25 instead of 15.
It becomes a cardio contest instead of a fight.

I hate it, I say it at each event.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

Glad to find somebody who hate it too.
I think that a bad fight going to 5 is horrible, of course, and a good fight going to 5 is not necessarily better. The guys think "5 rounds" and do much less in the beginning of the fight because they don't to gas out.
And most of the time, the end is sloppy because they are gassed.
Plus, most 5 rounds are title fights, and most title fights goes to decision. Because the stake is huige and both guy are at a close level.
So it's 25 instead of 15.
It becomes a cardio contest instead of a fight.

I hate it, I say it at each event.

Isnt having good cardio part of the fight? Without 5 round fights we wouldve missed great fights like Henderson/Rua and comebacks like Silva/Sonnen 1. Also its silly to have a championship fight (a fight you acknowledge has higher stakes than others) have the same number of rounds as a fight on the prelims.

[Romano338]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

Isnt having good cardio part of the fight? Without 5 round fights we wouldve missed great fights like Henderson/Rua and comebacks like Silva/Sonnen 1. Also its silly to have a championship fight (a fight you acknowledge has higher stakes than others) have the same number of rounds as a fight on the prelims.

Having cardio is part of a fight. Only part.
We would have missed 2 fights. Ok. How can you tell what would have happened in a 3 round? Fighters would have fight differently.
And you say it's silly to have same number of rounds for championship fights and others, but you don't say why. The NBA finals are in 4*12, the Superbowl is the same time as the other game and the soccer World Cup have 90 minutes game, like a 8th Slovenian division.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

Having cardio is part of a fight. Only part.
We would have missed 2 fights. Ok. How can you tell what would have happened in a 3 round? Fighters would have fight differently.
And you say it's silly to have same number of rounds for championship fights and others, but you don't say why. The NBA finals are in 4*12, the Superbowl is the same time as the other game and the soccer World Cup have 90 minutes game, like a 8th Slovenian division.

LOL. Stop comparing MMA to non-combat sports. Thats a senseless comparison. Boxing fights are 12 rounds when a belt is on the line and 10 when there isnt (less than 10 if the fighter is a young fighter). Kickboxing fights have more rounds for championship fights.

We wouldve missed two of the top 10 greatest fights in UFC history. Silva/Sonnen wouldve been a three round decision for Sonnen. The reason Henderson/Rua was a top 3 all time fight is because Henderson got tired in the 4th and 5th round and Rua came back.

****, if we dont want cardio or stamina to play a significant role in fights...lets make all fights 1 round. How about two? ****, I was watching Griffin/Rua 1 the other day and Shogun gassed midway through round 1. He wouldve won the fight if he only had to fight 1 round.

I'm actually kind of dumfounded by this argument. I've never heard someone complain that the fights are actually too long and that cardio shouldnt play a significant role in a fight.

[Romano338]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

Stop saying I said cardio shouldn't be important, *** **** it!
I've never said that!
But a lot of fighters can't do 3 rounds in a very good shape. So 5?
Come one! They are gassed in mid 4-th and the rest is sh!tty.
There are exceptions, of course. But I don't like 5 rounds.

That's it, that's my opinion. I don't see good fights being better with 5 rounds, and I don't see bad fights getting better in the 4th and 5th.
All I see is fighters trying to keep some gas not doing a lot, thinking only "what if I have to go 25 minutes?", and it results in boring fights. Where fighters are still gassed in the 5th...

Anyway, I've watched the post fight conference, and Pettis could like a match up against Aldo in 145. I think Pettis is a bit too much on fire. The match up would be great, but Pettis has the next 155 title shot, so he should wait for it. If he goes down for Aldo, he'll lose his spot for the 155 belt.
Calm down Showtime! You're young, you have time!

[cooldude]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

I like five rounds for title fights. I don't like it for a non-title Main Event though.

[GiantYankee]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

Let me start by saying that I was rooting for Overeem. I was really impressed with Big Foot. Watching the fight I was shocked that Silva was throwing more punches. I actually thought he might be scared. Even when he knocked out Overeem, I told my wife that he got lucky b/c Alistar gassed. After watching the post-fight press conference I changed my tune. Big Foot talked about his strategy for his fight. Basically he knew that Overeem has bad cardio and no heart and knew he would fade in the third. Silva rushed him from the start and let his hands go. I was really impressed. What is disappointing is that fight leaves Cain and the HW title in some limbo. Based on the way he destroyed Silva, I don't believe he should get an immediate title shot. With that being said there isn't a great contender at this point not named Cormier. I hope that Dos Santos vs Overeem happens though.

Edit: There is Fabricio Werdum.....I guess.

[p_rushing]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

Stop saying I said cardio shouldn't be important, *** **** it!
I've never said that!
But a lot of fighters can't do 3 rounds in a very good shape. So 5?
Come one! They are gassed in mid 4-th and the rest is sh!tty.
There are exceptions, of course. But I don't like 5 rounds.

That's it, that's my opinion. I don't see good fights being better with 5 rounds, and I don't see bad fights getting better in the 4th and 5th.
All I see is fighters trying to keep some gas not doing a lot, thinking only "what if I have to go 25 minutes?", and it results in boring fights. Where fighters are still gassed in the 5th...

Anyway, I've watched the post fight conference, and Pettis could like a match up against Aldo in 145. I think Pettis is a bit too much on fire. The match up would be great, but Pettis has the next 155 title shot, so he should wait for it. If he goes down for Aldo, he'll lose his spot for the 155 belt.
Calm down Showtime! You're young, you have time!

Yes action goes down the more the rounds, but it is really the fighters fault. They can go 25 mins, but they have to train differently.

[Romano338]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

Let me start by saying that I was rooting for Overeem. I was really impressed with Big Foot. Watching the fight I was shocked that Silva was throwing more punches. I actually thought he might be scared. Even when he knocked out Overeem, I told my wife that he got lucky b/c Alistar gassed. After watching the post-fight press conference I changed my tune. Big Foot talked about his strategy for his fight. Basically he knew that Overeem has bad cardio and no heart and knew he would fade in the third. Silva rushed him from the start and let his hands go. I was really impressed. What is disappointing is that fight leaves Cain and the HW title in some limbo. Based on the way he destroyed Silva, I don't believe he should get an immediate title shot. With that being said there isn't a great contender at this point not named Cormier. I hope that Dos Santos vs Overeem happens though.

Edit: There is Fabricio Werdum.....I guess.

Yes, his strategy was good. And on the other side, Overeem just didn't respect his power and striking. He thought he could play with him and on one combination, finish him.

[jfRED33]

rewatching the title fight on DVR... I don't care what anyone says: when Frankie comes running out to "Kick In the Door" - gets me hype for his fight every time.

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[Romano338]

Re: UFC 156 - Aldo v. Edgar/ Overeem v. Silva - Feb. 2 - Las Vegas

By the way, what do you think of the 10-8?
For me, the scoring should binary 0/1
The judges never gives 10-8, so why a 10 points system???
Maia had no 10-8. If there is not 10-8, it's just useless.
And if there is a 10-8 every 5 years, what about 10-7???