UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

[GiantYankee]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

I'm really looking forward to this event. Love Ronda when she is not around Tate. Her worst usually comes out. I would love to see what happens when Rousey doesn't get an arm bar. Weidman vs Silva is tough to call. Weidman must take Silva down several times and be active from the top. If Silva can defend some takedowns and works his kickboxing without being a clown I can see him winning the fight pretty easy. During Rd 2 of first fight I remember Silva working the low kicks pretty nicely. I felt that Chris was in some trouble until the clowning came out. Hope this is the best card of 2013.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Just because I'm so anxious for this fight, I'll respond to this but when did Anderson ever have Weidman in trouble? Even a little trouble?

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Just because I'm so anxious for this fight, I'll respond to this but when did Anderson ever have Weidman in trouble? Even a little trouble?

I remember repeatedly saying during the end of the first and the second first that Weidman was in trouble if he kept it standing. Ive watched the fight multiple times and every time I watch it I see a bunch of opportunities to counter that Silva wasted and I note how slow Weidman's combos looked. I really didnt see much of a striking speed difference between Weidman and Griffin/Bonner's strikes.

The difference was that Weidman has more power and was throwing strikes from different angles. Why did Weidman knock Silva out? Because he threw a funky backhand that missed right before landing the left hook. That threw off Silva's timing and put that followup hook right on the button. Silva is used to lesser strikers throwing basic 1-2 combos and he has that timing down to a science. Weidman doesnt just throw 1-2s and thats what will help him in the fight.

But what the hell do I know? I have no idea who's going to win this fight. The only reason I'm picking Silva is based on his previous 7 years and the fact that I think he had a few chances to counter in the 2nd round of the last fight.

[p_rushing]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Just because I'm so anxious for this fight, I'll respond to this but when did Anderson ever have Weidman in trouble? Even a little trouble?

he wasn't in trouble as he wasn't getting rocked or put in bad positions, but the fight was turning ... more rounds like that and he wasn't going to win

I'm really looking forward to this event. Love Ronda when she is not around Tate. Her worst usually comes out. I would love to see what happens when Rousey doesn't get an arm bar.

I don't know if she could handle it. With it being Tate she may go crazy. If she lost a decision then look for some Diaz type stuff. If she got knocked out or subbed, I wouldn't want to be near her after that. Roid rage may look tame if that happens compared to her.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

I remember repeatedly saying during the end of the first and the second first that Weidman was in trouble if he kept it standing. Ive watched the fight multiple times and every time I watch it I see a bunch of opportunities to counter that Silva wasted and I note how slow Weidman's combos looked. I really didnt see much of a striking speed difference between Weidman and Griffin/Bonner's strikes.

The difference was that Weidman has more power and was throwing strikes from different angles. Why did Weidman knock Silva out? Because he threw a funky backhand that missed right before landing the left hook. That threw off Silva's timing and put that followup hook right on the button. Silva is used to lesser strikers throwing basic 1-2 combos and he has that timing down to a science. Weidman doesnt just throw 1-2s and thats what will help him in the fight.

But what the hell do I know? I have no idea who's going to win this fight. The only reason I'm picking Silva is based on his previous 7 years and the fact that I think he had a few chances to counter in the 2nd round of the last fight.

Yeah I guess you could speculate that Weidman would have been in trouble if he kept it standing, which is the general feeling people felt and still feel going into the next fight. I'm just trying to figure out when Weidman was ever in any even minimal trouble in their first fight. I never saw that or even believed that at any single moment.

Weidman actually used some precise striking in the exchanges and was impressive in my opinion offensively and defensively. As you said, Weidman chained some nice combo punches. He doubled up on rights and didn't go for bombs. He kept a very tight game plan and kept his composure. Anderson was still Matrix-like, as I have mentioned before, and Weidman had to work to time Anderson right. It could have been a lucky knockout punch but all the work and striking leading up to that moment was pretty technical. It wasn't like Weidman just got one lucky shot and was just throwing wildly, he was timing him all down with his punches.

Defensively, Weidman displayed good head movement himself. He didn't stay open too long against Anderson's flurries, Anderson opened up at times in their first fight where he was going for the kill. Weidman never panicked, which to me either was extreme confidence or sort of a deer in the headlight moment. I still can't really tell.

he wasn't in trouble as he wasn't getting rocked or put in bad positions, but the fight was turning ... more rounds like that and he wasn't going to win.

I don't even know if I could say the fight was turning at all. I didn't see that, I saw Anderson getting more confident that Weidman wasn't going to hurt him but I never thought "oh here we go, Anderson is starting to turn it on". Anderson never hurt Weidman in the least or even gave me a reason to think that was going to happen. The longer that fight went we might have seen Weidman take him down more but we won't know until this Saturday.

[Thrash13]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

I'd like to see Weidman dominate this fight and solidify his spot at the top of the UFC MW Division. That being said, I think Silva will finish him in the first or second round. It's true Silva always plays around a little bit, but he went over the top in the first fight with Weidman. There is a decent chance the Silva we see Saturday night is the best Silva we've seen in a couple years. He's going to be on a mission to get the top spot back. I hope I'm wrong though.

As for Tate-Rousey, I'm expecting the usual domination by Rousey but hoping for a Tate victory to spice this thing up even more. I just think Rousey is a superior fighter and will retain her belt.

I can't wait for this entire card though. The top two fights get the hype, but there are some great fights all the way down the card. Barnett/Browne could be an explosive battle!

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Dana said:

Vitor gets Weidman/Silva winner
Werum gets Barnett/Browne winner

I don't see Tate having the skill set to beat Rousey. She's too small and too wild. If Rousey loses I'd be pretty shocked.

I really really really don't want to see Weidman/Silva III right away should Silva win. I'd love to see Vitor get another shot at Silva but I'd really love to see Jones take out Glover and then take on Silva. I'm pulling for an Anderson victory because Weidman will have his time. I want to see Anderson retire on top.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Dana said:



Vitor gets Weidman/Silva winner

Werum gets Barnett/Browne winner



I don't see Tate having the skill set to beat Rousey. She's too small and too wild. If Rousey loses I'd be pretty shocked.



I really really really don't want to see Weidman/Silva III right away should Silva win. I'd love to see Vitor get another shot at Silva but I'd really love to see Jones take out Glover and then take on Silva. I'm pulling for an Anderson victory because Weidman will have his time. I want to see Anderson retire on top.

If silva wins, he fights Vitor in Brazil probably in a soccer stadium. Jones is two fights away from fighting silva. The glover fight in April and probably a Gus rematch in July or Labor Day.

[GiantYankee]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Just because I'm so anxious for this fight, I'll respond to this but when did Anderson ever have Weidman in trouble? Even a little trouble?

he wasn't in trouble as he wasn't getting rocked or put in bad positions, but the fight was turning ... more rounds like that and he wasn't going to win




I don't know if she could handle it. With it being Tate she may go crazy. If she lost a decision then look for some Diaz type stuff. If she got knocked out or subbed, I wouldn't want to be near her after that. Roid rage may look tame if that happens compared to her.

P_Rushing explained what I was thinking better than I did. I didn't mean in trouble as if he were ready to get knocked out, but more that Silva was starting to get his rhythm down and was touching Weidman. The momentum of the fight was starting to swing in my opinion.

It bothers me that Silva feels like he doesn't need to shake hands with Weidman. It bothers me even more that Weidman keeps trying. Looking forward to the prelims and the main card.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Lol @ Joe.


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[redsrule]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Is it bad that I want Ronda to lose probably more than anything because of her awful coach Edmund? Dude talked **** to Dennis Hallman on TUF and would have got his *** beat if Ronda didn't step in, and just exaggerates everything it seems. He said recently that she was dropping a female WBC champion in sparring with 14 oz gloves. LMAO

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Is it bad that I want Ronda to lose probably more than anything because of her awful coach Edmund? Dude talked **** to Dennis Hallman on TUF and would have got his *** beat if Ronda didn't step in, and just exaggerates everything it seems. He said recently that she was dropping a female WBC champion in sparring with 14 oz gloves. LMAO

Yeah, I laughed at that when I heard it on the countdown show. With her movie/press commitments during camp I seriously doubt Ronda was sparring without headgear either. There is no way they would risk her getting a black eye/broken nose while filming.

The thing for me is I hate Hallman too so they kinda cancel each other out.

[The JareBear]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

I cannot wait for tonight. This is going to be awesome.

[DirtyJerz32]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

Anyone have the full card and when it starts? Debating on ordering it.

[p_rushing]

Re: UFC 168:Weidman v. Silva 2 / Rousey v. Tate 2 - Dec. 28 - Las Vegas

http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC168#/fight