UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

The match up favors Stipe. But on top of that, people seem to forget that DC has always failed when going up against the top guy in his division - in college, in the Olympics, and against Jon Jones at LHW. Tonight will be no different.

I think it favors Stipe as well overall as well. But I think Cormier by decision is more likely than Stipe by KO.

I*don't like him. not one bit.

I prefer Cruz who discusses real things over people like Robin Black who are
constantly downplaying picks and the fight itself.

Someone like Robin Black would actually hate your posts because they are 'redundant' according to him, but Cruz would actually appreciate it and could expand upon it.

I find the dynamic between Rogan and Cruz can be funny, it shows personality and character. Someone like Robin Black desperately wants the same spot, but fails to provide any actual information and will try to undermine any analysis that does.

[Dave_S]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

The match up favors Stipe. But on top of that, people seem to forget that DC has always failed when going up against the top guy in his division - in college, in the Olympics, and against Jon Jones at LHW. Tonight will be no different.

College wrestling also. I was telling my brother this last night. I originally picked DC, but the pattern says he will lose and most likely cry.

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

^ Dan Hooker v Gilbert Burns is next. This is a good prospect fight.

I favor Dan Hooker here by clinical striking, but wouldn't be surprised if Burns out grappled him.

[MacGowan]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

I find the dynamic between Rogan and Cruz can be funny

Agree to disagree.
Cruz is ok, but not with Joe.
Jon, Joe, and DC's my favorite team, good vibes. then of course you have Dan Hardy, my fav analyst, and John Gooden.

Not a fan of Robin Black's style.

I originally picked DC

DC muh boi, I gotta root for him.

^ Dan Hooker v Gilbert Burns is next. This is a good prospect fight.

this is gonna be fun!

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Agree to disagree.
Cruz is ok, but not with Joe.
Jon, Joe, and DC's my favorite team, good vibes. then of course you have Dan Hardy, my fav analyst, and John Gooden.

Not a fan of Robin Black's style

I do think DC and Rogan are a better pair.

Hardy and Gooden are professional, Jimmy Smith is good as well.

I don't mind Cruz and Rogan together, there is a unique dynamic between them imo.

But yeah fair enough. I can see why you could get annoyed by Cruz and Rogan's tension.

[MacGowan]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

"The Hangman"

That's a great nickname!


Edit: totally forgot Jimmy Smith. loving his style too.

[Dave_S]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

I don't want either of these guys to lose.

Damn. Good finish from Hooker.

[MacGowan]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

What an insane round!

[TB5XSBW]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

I think it favors Stipe as well overall as well. But I think Cormier by decision is more likely than Stipe by KO.
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I disagree. The two most likely outcomes, in order:

1. Stipe by decision
2. Stipe by KO

The KO is extremely likely, because DC sets up his takedowns with his boxing, and he leaves his chin out and very exposed when he does so. Stipe will find it. It's just a matter of how well he connects. Either way, I'm confident in Stipe winning.

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

I disagree. The two most likely outcomes, in order:

1. Stipe by decision
2. Stipe by KO

The KO is extremely likely, because DC sets up his takedowns with his boxing, and he leaves his chin out and very exposed when he does so. Stipe will find it.

I disagree, Cormier has betters odds at winning a decision than Miocic. His style is suited for that. Miocic has a better chance by winning by KO.

This is not saying Miocic cannot win by decision or Cormier by KO, just that this is what their tendencies could lead to.

You seem rather biased for Stipe so I don't know what the point. I am trying to look at it objectively.

The criticism you apply to Cormier could apply to Miocic. Miocic got KO'd by Struv. There is no reality in which DC gets finished by Struv. Being beat by JDS is fair but it was post Cain JDS... Miocic is in his prime now he's the best fighter DC has fought but I would argue DC is also the best fighter Miocic has fought.

[Dave_S]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

It's gonna be a battle for the underhooks on the cage, lol.

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

I hope Curtis Millender is impressive in this fight. He did well against Alves but Alves is past his prime.

Max Griffin did good against Perry and lost to Covington.

So far it seems that Griffin is winning the grappling exchanges and Millender is doing better in the stand up. I am surprised that Griffin is controlling Millender. The physicality advantage actually seems to be with Griffin so far.

Probably 1-1.

[TB5XSBW]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

I disagree, Cormier has betters odds at winning a decision than Miocic. His style is suited for that. Miocic has a better chance by winning by KO.

This is not saying Miocic cannot win by decision or Cormier by KO, just that this is what their tendencies could lead to.

You seem rather biased for Stipe so I don't know what the point. I am trying to look at it objectively.

The criticism you apply to Cormier could apply to Miocic. Miocic got KO'd by Struv. There is no reality in which DC gets finished by Struv. Being beat by JDS is fair but it was post Cain JDS... Miocic is in his prime now he's the best fighter DC has fought but I would argue DC is also the best fighter Miocic has fought.

It's not bias at all, it's an analysis of the match up. The fight with Struve is entirely irrelevant because MMA math is invalid. The outcome of that fight literally has nothing to do with this one or the fact that DC leaves his chin exposed when he tries to close the distance to go for the takedown.

Stipe wins handily, whether it's by decision or by KO.

[MacGowan]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

MMA math is invalid. The outcome of that fight literally has nothing to do with this one

wait, what?

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

It's not bias at all, it's an analysis of the match up. The fight with Struve is entirely irrelevant because MMA math is invalid. The outcome of that fight literally has nothing to do with this one or the fact that DC leaves his chin exposed when he tries to close the distance to go for the takedown.

Stipe wins handily, whether it's by decision or by KO.

MMA math? Lol

Yeah and Miocic doesn't make any mistakes?
That's why it's clearly bias. You are not looking at it objectively.

You are literally only pointing out Cormier's technical flaws without any of Miocic's.
This reminds me of Robin Black's Mayweather v McGregor analysis.