UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

[MacGowan]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

"This is gonna be your 4th hard warning!"

[MacGowan]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

this fight is legit!

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Yes MMA math is invalid. It's a way of saying that the law of transitivity doesn't apply in MMA.

I'm not ignoring anything. If you can pinpoint a weakness in Stipe's game that DC will be able to exploit, feel free to share.

Thank you for further demonstrating your lack of comprehension.

MMA math is like saying Overeem will beat Miocic because Miocic lost to Struv and Overeem beat Struv.

That's not what I am saying.
What I am saying Miocic lost to Struv by KO and JDS by decision while Cormier only lost to Jones by decision and had a NC with him too. Those outcomes were dictated by tendencies.

I am stating what factually happened in history. It's relevance is that tendencies are rooted in the past and are predictive of the future. The more information we can acquire from this, the better our predictions become.

You were only pointing out DC's technical errors while not even mentioning technical errors Miocic made which lead him to be finished by Struv and lose to JDS.

DC could lean to the right like he likes to do a lot leaving him vulnerable. Miocic has shown to be prone to walking into shots and overcommitting.

Both are capable of improvement from losses but it seems you only point out Cormier's issues without addressing the fact Miocic makes mistakes too.

[TB5XSBW]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

I don't think YOU understand what it refers to, as you seem to think no loses matter because of mma math

MMA math literally has nothing to do with overall win/loss records. MMA math is when you try to claim that X will beat Y because X beat/could beat Z and Z beat Y.

[MacGowan]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Thank you for further demonstrating your lack of comprehension.

MMA math is like saying Overeem will beat Miocic because Miocic lost to Struv and Overeem beat Struv.

That's not what I am saying.
What I am saying Miocic lost to Struv by KO and JDS by decision while Cormier only lost to Jones by decision and had a NC with him too. Those outcomes were dictated by tendencies.

I am stating what factually happened in history. It's relevance is that tendencies are rooted in the past and are predictive of the future. The more information we can acquire from this, the better our predictions become.

You were only pointing out DC's technical errors while not even mentioning technical errors Miocic made which lead him to be finished by Struv and lose to JDS.

DC could lean to the right like he likes to do a lot leaving him vulnerable. Miocic has shown to be prone to walking into shots and overcommitting.

Both are capable of improvement from losses but it seems you only point out Cormier's issues without addressing the fact Miocic makes mistakes too.

you said it a lot better than i did. and that's the same i took away from his post

[johnmangala]

Preview & Review: UFC 226- Paradise, Nevada

The prelims have delivered. The main card will likely do the same.

This main card is very competitive, the odds are all relatively close. As such I think upsets are likely:

Spoiler

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: ☯ striking < ☯ striking
:: ☯ 60% SA & 100% TDD v ☯ 32% SA & 0% TD
::: ☯ 4 3 + TD > ☯ 1 2 + TD
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Gökhan Saki《-125|$1.8x|5/10》
^ via R1KO: 1 2

Khalil Rountree Jr《+115|$2.1x|5/10》
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***.5
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::: ☯ ☯
:: ☯ ☯
: ☯ ☯
⌞

♠♦♣♥


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: ☯ grappling < ☯ mix
:: ☯ 50% SD & 40% TD v ☯ 45% SA & 58% TD
::: ☯ TD + subs > ☯ 4bk + subs
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Michael Chiesa《-155|$1.6x|6/10》
^ via R2SUB: Armbar

Anthony Pettis《+145|$2.4x|4/10》
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***
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::: ☯ ☯
:: ☯ ☯
: ☯ ☯
⌞

♠♦♣♥

⋒
: ☯ mix < ☯ power
:: ☯ 43% SA + 60% TDD v ☯ 43% SA + 40% TD
::: ☯ 3-4e + 4lk > ☯ 3 4 + TD
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Paul Felder《-135|$1.7x|6/10》
^ via DEC: 29-28

Mike Perry《+115|$2.1x|4/10》
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**.5
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::: ☯ ☯
:: ☯ ☯
: ☯ ☯
⋓

♠♦♣♥

⌜
: ☯ striking > ☯ mix
:: ☯ 36% SA + 66% TDD ☯ 51% SA + 29% TD
::: ☯ 1 2 4k + subs < ☯ 1 2 + TD
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Francis Ngannou《-330|$1.3x|7/10》
x

Derrick Lewis《+300|$4x|3/10》
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::: ☯ ☯
:: ☯ ☯
: ☯ ☯
⌞


♠♦♣♥

⌜
: ☯ mix < ☯ mix
:: ☯ 51% SA & 75% TD ☯ 58% SD & 42% TD
::: ☯ 1 2 + TD > ☯ 4 + TD + subs
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Stipe Miocic《-220|$1.4x|7/10》
x

Daniel Cormier《+200|$3x|3/10》
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::: ☯ ☯
:: ☯ ☯
: ☯ ☯
⌞

♠♦♣♥

★:
Profit: 46%
Upsets: All main card; 28% v 20%
Earning: $10.9x ($7.8x<=>$13.6x)

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: Prediction (Strategy v Strategy)
:: Factors (Statistic- Striking & Grappling %)
::: Hedges (Stylistic- Skill v Skill)
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Preview
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A《odds》
x
B《odds》
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Review
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::: Story
:: Lowlights
: Highlights
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★: * Awful, ** Bad, *** Decent, **** Good, ***** Classic
Profit: %
Upsets: Past 5 v Projection
Earning: $ ($<=>$)

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SA: Strike accuracy
SD: Strike defense
TD: Takedown accuracy
TDD: Takedown defense

Underline: Underdog
Bold: Expected win
Italic: Fantasy win

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risky
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incl
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◜
pass
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[TB5XSBW]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Thank you for further demonstrating your lack of comprehension.

MMA math is like saying Overeem will beat Miocic because Miocic lost to Struv and Overeem beat Struv.

That's not what I am saying.
What I am saying Miocic lost to Struv by KO and JDS by decision while Cormier only lost to Jones by decision and had a NC with him too. Those outcomes were dictated by tendencies.

I am stating what factually happened in history. It's relevance is that tendencies are rooted in the past and are predictive of the future. The more information we can acquire from this, the better our predictions become.

You were only pointing out DC's technical errors while not even mentioning technical errors Miocic made which lead him to be finished by Struv and lose to JDS.

DC could lean to the right like he likes to do a lot leaving him vulnerable. Miocic has shown to be prone to walking into shots and overcommitting.

Both are capable of improvement from losses but it seems you only point out Cormier's issues without addressing the fact Miocic makes mistakes too.

I point out issues that are relevant to this fight, because that's all that matters.

Give an example of Miocic walking into shots and overcommitting. The knockdown in the Overeem fight isn't relevant to this fight by the way, as Overeem was running away all right and forced Stipe to chase him. We know DC's gameplan will be the exact opposite of that.

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

I point out issues that are relevant to this fight, because that's all that matters.

Give an example of Miocic walking into shots and overcommitting. The knockdown in the Overeem fight isn't relevant to this fight by the way, as Overeem was running away all right and forced Stipe to chase him. We know DC's gameplan will be the exact opposite of that.

It's all relevant. You are just trying to cherry pick and it's painfully obvious.

You don't know if DC can pressure the entire fight. Maybe Miocic will force DC to back up. You are not taking adjustments into account.

[johnmangala]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Holy ****

Rountree just knocked out Gokhan Saki with a sharp 1 2.

Did not think the upsets would happen so quick.

[jasontoddwhitt]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Oh dang! Saki got CLIPPED!


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[Phillyboi207]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Daaamn Khalil looked sharp

[MacGowan]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

damnit, Saki....

[WarMMA]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Oh my goodnessss. You have to respect man. Not because you're the better striker on paper means you can't get caught.

[Dave_S]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Oh my goodnessss. You have to respect man. Not because you're the better striker on paper means you can't get caught.

He ko'd Silva.

[MacGowan]

Re: UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

Chiesa by haircut