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  • MacGowan
    Sassy
    • Jun 2017
    • 1681

    #16
    Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

    Also: If the UFC's bringing out a new belt designs on the 29th they are ****ing idiots. for real

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    • p_rushing
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2004
      • 14514

      #17
      Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

      Originally posted by MacGowan
      Nice, well then I'll just use that.

      Yeah, long story.

      Well I kiiinda get it? The wheels were set in motion for TJ to cut the weight to move down to fight DJ. two true legend champs. Now they're forcing this "superfight" through with Cejudo. Cejudo won by split decision and has never defended the belt, imagine the horror if he becomes a double champ (yeah, I know, I know, Conor). I'm actually pretty conserned with the UFC. Hopefully the move to ESPN will be better for them than at Fox, but I fear it will not. the Valentina - Eubanks fiasco was a real red flag for me.
      Money wise it is great for the UFC. ESPN I think fails from the UFC side because streaming. Sell it as streaming but also put it on TV. Are casuals going to buy a streaming service to watch a few fights a year? Not to mention all the other leagues they are paying for.

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      • WarMMA
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 4612

        #18
        Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

        Originally posted by Dave_S
        Great picks. I got the same exact picks except for Cyborg/Nunes. Not to sure about that one, but my gut wants to go with Cyborg. This is a womens matchup i've been dying to see though...glad its finally happening. Also not sure about Gus/Jones, but i'm a big fan of Gus so I gotta go with him. Gus arguably got robbed in the first fight and if this 2nd fight is anything like that one, Jones is in for a long night. Can't wait for this card. Some great fights.

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        • Dave_S
          Dave
          • Apr 2016
          • 7835

          #19
          Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

          Originally posted by WarMMA
          Great picks. I got the same exact picks except for Cyborg/Nunes. Not to sure about that one, but my gut wants to go with Cyborg. This is a womens matchup i've been dying to see though...glad its finally happening. Also not sure about Gus/Jones, but i'm a big fan of Gus so I gotta go with him. Gus arguably got robbed in the first fight and if this 2nd fight is anything like that one, Jones is in for a long night. Can't wait for this card. Some great fights.
          I just want Gus to win, but I'm not really liking his chances since he's been out of the octagon longer than Jon.

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          • MacGowan
            Sassy
            • Jun 2017
            • 1681

            #20
            Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

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            • Dave_S
              Dave
              • Apr 2016
              • 7835

              #21
              Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

              I'm surprised you think Nunes might win.

              I'm interested to see if Cat tries to stand with Anderson much. I gotta think if she follows a gameplan like Holly's her chances of success are pretty good.

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              • MacGowan
                Sassy
                • Jun 2017
                • 1681

                #22
                Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

                Originally posted by Dave_S
                I'm surprised you think Nunes might win.

                I'm interested to see if Cat tries to stand with Anderson much. I gotta think if she follows a gameplan like Holly's her chances of success are pretty good.
                I've been seeing some holes in her fighting. especially in the clinch (Yana, and Holly, gave her some problems there). Pluss Cyborg hasn't fought that many killers. Nunes, however has, and she's looked good.

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                • rabbitfistssaipailo
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 1625

                  #23
                  Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

                  As for Jones vs Gus ...I just want a good fight . I like em both . Whoever wins wins .

                  I'm more interested in the cyborg vs Nunes fight . I'm not to sure on the stipulations either ...with regards to the titles .

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                  • rabbitfistssaipailo
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 1625

                    #24
                    Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

                    I guess nunes tilte isn't on the line ...

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                    • WarMMA
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4612

                      #25
                      Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

                      Originally posted by Dave_S
                      I'm surprised you think Nunes might win.

                      I'm interested to see if Cat tries to stand with Anderson much. I gotta think if she follows a gameplan like Holly's her chances of success are pretty good.
                      She's not gonna stand too long with that female CAF. That's just giving Megan the chance she needs. She'll most likely take her down and GnP her. Maybe even finish her like she did Nunes.

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                      • p_rushing
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 14514

                        #26
                        Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

                        Originally posted by MacGowan
                        I've been seeing some holes in her fighting. especially in the clinch (Yana, and Holly, gave her some problems there). Pluss Cyborg hasn't fought that many killers. Nunes, however has, and she's looked good.
                        There aren't any killers outside of these 2 in WMMA 135 and above. Male 135ers have a little bit of power, but you aren't getting clear KOs a ton, so female 135ers don't really stand much of a chance. Then the 145ers are just too big to be great as most females training all the time can get down to 125. The 145ers are playing other sports, not WMMA.

                        Cyborg hasn't been in a MMA fight like this in years. Holly has no power, so she really wasn't worried with that. The last fight was outside of MMA. You have to go back to Strikeforce to find a somewhat equal MMA fight she was in.

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                        • p_rushing
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 14514

                          #27
                          Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

                          Originally posted by WarMMA
                          She's not gonna stand too long with that female CAF. That's just giving Megan the chance she needs. She'll most likely take her down and GnP her. Maybe even finish her like she did Nunes.
                          Is Cat even training seriously? I think as soon as she gets hit, it's over. She may tough it out, but it won't look good.

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                          • WarMMA
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 4612

                            #28
                            Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

                            Originally posted by p_rushing
                            Is Cat even training seriously? I think as soon as she gets hit, it's over. She may tough it out, but it won't look good.

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                            Well if she hasn't, then it probably won't go well if she's forced to stand and gets hit good. But I take it she has no plan on standing with Megan anyway.

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                            • rabbitfistssaipailo
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2017
                              • 1625

                              #29
                              Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

                              Originally posted by WarMMA
                              She's not gonna stand too long with that female CAF. That's just giving Megan the chance she needs. She'll most likely take her down and GnP her. Maybe even finish her like she did Nunes.
                              Female CAF ....hahaha .

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                              • MacGowan
                                Sassy
                                • Jun 2017
                                • 1681

                                #30
                                Re: UFC 232: Jones v Gustafsson 2

                                Originally posted by p_rushing
                                There aren't any killers outside of these 2 in WMMA 135 and above.
                                I consider Valentina (at 135) and Germaine de Randamie killers. Julia Budd to a lesser degree. And Ronda used to be. people forget she blew through a ton of currently active successful fighters.
                                Amanda beat them all. (we can argue about Valentina, but she's currently 0-2).
                                Then you got solid wins like Miesha Tate, and Sara McMann.

                                Cyborg is a different story. her biggest wins are Gina Carano, Leslie Smith, and Holly Holm. I believe Cyborg will be a DJ, or a GSP, we will remember them more fondly when they leave and we see other great fighters and we get to play the nostalgia game of: "what if Cyborg fought X."

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