***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

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  • T.Shock
    Rookie
    • Nov 2004
    • 269

    #121
    Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

    Okay here is my final thought. Since people can't seem to argue without automatically labeling somebody as pro or con something, I'll just get out of here with a final statement (for now).

    If Vince McMahon had wanted to create a third brand, then he has every right to do it. He has the funds, the pull, and the staff to make it work. If he wanted to make a hardcore brand, completely different from Raw and Smackdown, then its his right to do that as well. But to call it ECW is a slap in the face to the people who loved ECW and what it stood for both in the wrestling world and in society.

    I'll use the example I used during the Raw thread. If Britney Spears and Cristina Aguilera said that they were dedicated to making an amazing, old-school rock album. You didn't want to believe it, but they said they were bringing in all the right people and even going by the name Pink Floyd. They were promising to bring back the magic. Nothing could re-create the original, but even a decent copy would be acceptable just because it would be an alternative to all the other crappy **** that's out there. If they released the album and it was awful, MTV-pop music would we tolerate it?

    I sure as hell wouldn't and would do everything in my power to write my wrong. Bitching about the new "ECW" lets me get my frustration off my chest. I wish there was some alternative, but until there is, I'll do my best to argue for change regarding ECW.

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    • JiggidyJames
      All Star
      • Apr 2005
      • 5267

      #122
      Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

      I don't know, my face feels fine. No red hand print, nothing. And as I said in the Raw thread, that album would still go platinum.
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      • Lintyfresh85
        Where have I been?
        • Jul 2002
        • 17492

        #123
        Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

        which is certainly your right to do so....

        Honestly though, tonights show was really good... Heyman's promo was great with the religious tie in's.

        The Test/Dreamer match was actually competitive and not a squash as some claimed... Just to let you guys know... a squash is when one guy gets destroyed... Dreamer held his own and had his own offense...

        The Fertig/Punk/Balls promos were all short and good...

        Shannon Moore is coming... new guys get introduced every week.

        The Kelly/Candice spot actually led to somethign with Sandman caining Knox off the stage...

        The Sabu/Credible match wasn't good... I'll give you that.

        The main event was off the charts good... and I'm sorry guys I'm going with the critics on this one... most are going *** or above... it was quite good.

        The entire show was good, you'd be hard pressed to find one of the top critics saying bad things about...

        It's a foundation and I like where they are going with it all.
        Last edited by Lintyfresh85; 07-11-2006, 11:50 PM.
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        • JiggidyJames
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          • Apr 2005
          • 5267

          #124
          Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

          Originally posted by Superstar
          The Fertig/Punk/Balls promos were all short and good...
          Yeah, but the Vampire missed the camera when he spit out the blood. BOO!
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          • Lintyfresh85
            Where have I been?
            • Jul 2002
            • 17492

            #125
            Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

            did he? I wasn't sure... I was on the phone.
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            • CaptainZombie
              Brains
              • Jul 2003
              • 37851

              #126
              Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

              Originally posted by Dondadda
              That would be outstanding.


              I'm starting to think that this whole "half-*** ECW" we've been seeing more than half the time is actually part of one huge, brilliant angle . . presenting an ECW that is so repulsive to the hardcore fans, and then having a "renegade" faction or "savior" character come out and drastically improve the product. I doubt this is what's happening, but that would really be a brilliant (and patient) type of angle that we haven't seen before.
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              • EWRMETS
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 7491

                #127
                Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

                I say it every week but no one pays attention, the worst thing about this show is the commentary. Joey Styles and Tazz just sound really lame. Tazz with his consant "no no no no no" and Joey Styles talking about how you have to see Big Show in person and the size of the Big Show's hands. I know this is what the production truck tells them to say, but can't we get some different style commentary for this different brand.

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                • CaptainZombie
                  Brains
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 37851

                  #128
                  Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

                  Originally posted by EWRMETS
                  I say it every week but no one pays attention, the worst thing about this show is the commentary. Joey Styles and Tazz just sound really lame. Tazz with his consant "no no no no no" and Joey Styles talking about how you have to see Big Show in person and the size of the Big Show's hands. I know this is what the production truck tells them to say, but can't we get some different style commentary for this different brand.
                  I agree with you on that one.
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                  • Lintyfresh85
                    Where have I been?
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 17492

                    #129
                    Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

                    totally agree as well... I usually watch with the sound off unless it's a promo.

                    I can't take the extreme stuff they keep pumping.
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                    • goh
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 20755

                      #130
                      Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

                      Originally posted by Krioniq
                      I watched bits and pieces of ECW this week and last week, and I guess I'm not too impressed thus far. Maybe I came in expecting the wrong thing, but ECW has a reputation as a more risk-taking and no-holds-barred promotion, and there really hasn't been too much risk-taking or no-holds-barred fighting going on, at least from my vantage point. Shouldn't every match be "extreme" rules by default (since it is "Extreme" Championship Wrestling, after all)? And shouldn't the wrestlers take advantage of these "extreme rules" beyond chairshots?

                      Like I said, maybe I came in expecting the wrong thing based on ECW's reputation, but I wasn't feeling the show much.
                      Yes it does but this isn't really living up to it. The Big Show vs. Flair match was as close as it's been for what's been on TV. Yes they all should be Extreme rules. That was the first actual DQ in ECW since '96 or '97(not counting matches that get tossed out due to interfereance) and that involved an ear biting. Yes they should also take advantage beyond chairshots that's why the main event tonight was good.

                      Obviously you haven't watched ECW before and were expecting old ECW and this isn't even close.

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                      • Dondadda
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 1204

                        #131
                        Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

                        Originally posted by EWRMETS
                        I say it every week but no one pays attention, the worst thing about this show is the commentary. Joey Styles and Tazz just sound really lame. Tazz with his consant "no no no no no" and Joey Styles talking about how you have to see Big Show in person and the size of the Big Show's hands. I know this is what the production truck tells them to say, but can't we get some different style commentary for this different brand.

                        TOTALLY AGREED. Style and Taz are PATHETIC!!! In my mind, they are the ultimate sellouts in this "ECW" experiment. I never thought I'd say that, either.
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                        • The GIGGAS
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 28474

                          #132
                          Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

                          I'm sorry you guys, I was really frustrated last night before the show and I guess I was hyper critical about it. I'll have a good recap on my podcast.
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                          • Spear
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                            • Sep 2002
                            • 4434

                            #133
                            Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

                            I guess its no surprise Minney had a decent crowd for ECW last night, they had a monster crowd for Anarchy Rulz in 2000. I just want them to continue touring towns that know what ECW is about.

                            Well they have a TV Taping in the Hammerstein Ballroom August 1st...with Van Dam's suspension being finished on August 4thish, maybe they will bring him back and have him reclaim the title? Or even bring back the TV Title? Who knows but I can't wait for that show.
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                            • The Lob Mob
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                              • Aug 2005
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                              #134
                              Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

                              Originally posted by EWRMETS
                              I say it every week but no one pays attention, the worst thing about this show is the commentary. Joey Styles and Tazz just sound really lame. Tazz with his consant "no no no no no" and Joey Styles talking about how you have to see Big Show in person and the size of the Big Show's hands. I know this is what the production truck tells them to say, but can't we get some different style commentary for this different brand.
                              I've said that as well. To add to that, I hate when the chowd starts chanting: "YOU CAN'T WRESTLE!", to which Tazz retorts:
                              " . . .. I'm sure his opponent disagrees, he really taking it to him right now . . ." or " . . . . He CAN'T wrestle, but the sure can FIGHT!!!!". They are being fed that sport entertainment fairy tale b***sh**!!!!

                              My biggest thing are these chrowds, these lame *** Smackdown chrowds . . . who are NOT "ECW" chrowds. They are not into this. They wanna see Rey Mysterio. The thing that made ONS2 so magicial, was the enviroment & the chrowd. If VKM was really trying to make this a superior brand (which he is definitely not) He would air this thing from ECW arena, every week!!!! As we know, he just wants a make-shift 3rd brand, for some little pocket change (to him) revenue.
                              Last edited by The Lob Mob; 07-12-2006, 10:22 AM.
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                              • mrprice33
                                Just some guy
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 5986

                                #135
                                Re: ***Official ECW on Sci-Fi 7/11/2006 Spoiler & Live Discussion Thread***

                                that's the main thing to me, too...the crowds...put this thing where it belongs, then you'll see it skyrocket...

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