The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

[z Revis]

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Go away Rock.

He's so.....idk the word. I don't want to blame the way he is on PG either. He's just bland now to me. I don't even care about the part time thing anymore. Just bland.

He doesn't have that over-the-top arrogance/cockiness that he used to. I don't think he sends his messages the way he used to either. He talks too normal now if that makes sense. I still enjoy watching him though.

Also, just read the article philliesfan posted, the WWE creative head has been fired? Can't believe they'd make a move like that this close to WM, but nonetheless good news I suppose. At least for those of us who aren't too fond of the lackluster storylines we've been getting. Hopefully a change for the good.

[philliesfan136]

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Also, just read the article philliesfan posted, the WWE creative head has been fired? Can't believe they'd make a move like that this close to WM, but nonetheless good news I suppose. At least for those of us who aren't too fond of the lackluster storylines we've been getting. Hopefully a change for the good.

The thing that stands out most to be about that is that the writer was apparently a guy from Hollywood. That would explain where those bad storylines come from - writers who aren't from the wrestling business and are there just to try and write stories like they might for a TV show. They just don't fit and shouldn't be there.

Hopefully they get some guy in there who actually knows wrestling next time and it's all for the better.

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They might as well have The Rock wrestle on free TV every week and only cut promos on PPV since the majority of his "rabid fanbase"only cares about mic work and not about wrestling anyway. That might increase buyrates!

[PhilliesFan13]

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1998-1999 Rock was the best. He has always been better as a heel in my opinion.

[xboxxerx]

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The thing that stands out most to be about that is that the writer was apparently a guy from Hollywood. That would explain where those bad storylines come from - writers who aren't from the wrestling business and are there just to try and write stories like they might for a TV show. They just don't fit and shouldn't be there.

Hopefully they get some guy in there who actually knows wrestling next time and it's all for the better.

They should have someone from WWE read the Universe postings from some of these guys that post them. Those posts beat 85% of what the creative team has put out in the last couple years by a land slide.

[SoundTheAlarm]

They should have someone from WWE read the Universe postings from some of these guys that post them. Those posts beat 85% of what the creative team has put out in the last couple years by a land slide.

Lol! That would be something, wouldn't it? Start a Universe just for fun, then wind up getting a writing job with the WWE. Wow... dream come true!

[Rocky]

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I can understand the WWE not wanting to risk it, but I think things would be so much more exciting if he competed at least once every month or two weeks on a free show. Him not wrestling takes the edge off his character a little bit.

I would have him wrestle against somebody like Cody Rhodes or Cesaro...someone who wouldn't be competing against him on a PPV. I think it would be entertaining to team him up with Kane and D Bry in a six man tag match.

[kblu54]

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Can I just comment on the Ziggler fail to cash-in thoughts floating around? I'm not saying this to poke fun at anyone, its mainly intended for the WWE creative... But seriously, if their plan is to make ziggler forget to or fail at his cash-in, then what a waste the entire MITB PPV was.

1) why have a PPV named after it if BOTH briefcases aren't successful? Seems pretty asinine to me

2) At least Cena's loss was intertwined in a storyline (and it really wasn't a loss, it was a DQ win but no title win) but ziggler losing for no reason would be absurd

3) I can't believe Dolph would agree to it if this is the route they are planning. I mean, talk about a slap in the face. "Umm dolph? Remember that huge push we were planning with the MITB briefcase? Yeah we're scrapping that idea even though you've made a big deal about it for 9 months. Hope you're ok with that!" Please... If that's the case, TNA needs to give him a call... And that feels real dirty to me for saying it out loud.

4) Either kill the "Show-off" heel angle or turn him face. If you're going to give a heel character that, at least give him reasons to show off (aka wins, bragging rights, etc). I mean, he can show off all he wants but it means nothing to me if he loses every week. Oh AJ's your gf? Well that's not showing off bc she's been everyone's gf this year. Oh Big E is your bodyguard? Well that's a waste bc you still lose even tho you have "protection".

5) Final point: if they're planning on "surprising" us by having dolph cash in after a big losing streak, then why make him carry or brag about having the briefcase? The surprise is when we forget he has it and then cashes in for a huge moment. Plus when he's tried a million times to cash in already. Remember some of the other cash-ins? Barely mentioned it, then ONE cash-in attempt and BOOM title change, crowd goes nuts.

I just shake my head at the whole situation.

[kingkilla56]

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The writers could write a 5 star feud and politics, advertising times, agendas would **** it up. I dont blame the writers all that much.

You could write a stellar IC storyline for Barrett and lets say Bo Dallas, and someone will say "Oh Bo isnt ready" "yeah that kid no way, slow down, save that for later" then you have some vet usurp the whole thing and next thing you know Bo Dallas beating Barrett that one time was absolutely worthless. Things like that probably happen on a daily basis. Thats why every storyline seems so fragmented and spontaneous and poorly done imo. Nobody is on the same page, nobody can put the politics aside and give the fans what they want because everyone is on a different agenda. What writer would want to write for characters they dont have free reign on creatively? Can you imagine the "rules" they have to consider when writing? Im not jealous of WWE writers at all and its no wonder all of them have bad things to say when they leave that company.

[PVarck31]

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We all keep waiting for something to happen. I'm starting to believe it never will.

If they stay on the current path they are on I just don't know. Its time to shake things up. I'm not saying bring the attitude era back, but you have to have more compelling story lines besides "I'm gonna use this fist as a weapon." and "I'll brogue kick you all the way to Ireland fella." Oooo Scary, edgy stuff. Makes me what to see what's next.

[Redacted01]

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We all keep waiting for something to happen. I'm starting to believe it never will.

If they stay on the current path they are on I just don't know. Its time to shake things up. I'm not saying bring the attitude era back, but you have to have more compelling story lines besides "I'm gonna use this fist as a weapon." and "I'll brogue kick you all the way to Ireland fella." Oooo Scary, edgy stuff. Makes me what to see what's next.

So you're calling for a WWE draft!

[ubernoob]

We all keep waiting for something to happen. I'm starting to believe it never will.

If they stay on the current path they are on I just don't know. Its time to shake things up. I'm not saying bring the attitude era back, but you have to have more compelling story lines besides "I'm gonna use this fist as a weapon." and "I'll brogue kick you all the way to Ireland fella." Oooo Scary, edgy stuff. Makes me what to see what's next.

Yup. Why did Punk set the world on fire en route to MITB? It wasn't him pulling the curtain back with his pipe bomb. It's because we legitimately didn't know what was coming next. It was real, believable and compelling TV.

That's why I'm gonna miss triple h when he's gone. Say what you want about the man, but in pretty much every feud I can think of he manages to make it compelling.

I don't care what Sheamus does because next week it will still be status quo with him. The same goes for all the characters we have right now save for a very select few.

I love Ziggler. He's one of my favorites and is a joy to watch. I don't care what happens to him any more. We get the exact same show off week in and week out, no matter how many matches he loses.

[PVarck31]

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To piggyback off your post Ubernoob, I think the reason Triple H is so compelling in his feuds is that he basically calls his own shots. I don't mean just now. I mean since 97-98 when he and Shawn basically took over and did whatever they wanted when it came to how they talked and acted.

But the problem with that was Vince knew he couldn't afford to lose Shawn so he basically let him do what he wanted. I doubt even John Cena could get away with the crazy *** **** DX pulled back then.

[Thrash13]

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It's frustrating because the "wrestling" talent on the roster right now is higher than it's ever been, and the WWE just isn't utilizing their resources. One of the most-talked about things of the last month or two was the Cena vs. Punk match on RAW a couple weeks back. The WWE will always need storylines to keep some of the casual fans involved, but nothing keeps people on the edge of their seats like an intense match. They have enough talent to have multiple great matches every single RAW and Smackdown.

That's one of the reasons I enjoyed Main Event the first couple months. Every week, the top match was very high quality. It's still an alright show, but it's already a bit watered down compared to when it first started. That was kind of expected though I guess.

There is no excuses for a 3-hour RAW though. There is plenty of time to pack in at least two or three very good matches. I know I'd stay more interested. It wouldn't hurt to let a heel or two other than Mark Henry win either. LOL.

[DonkeyJote]

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It's frustrating because the "wrestling" talent on the roster right now is higher than it's ever been, and the WWE just isn't utilizing their resources. One of the most-talked about things of the last month or two was the Cena vs. Punk match on RAW a couple weeks back. The WWE will always need storylines to keep some of the casual fans involved, but nothing keeps people on the edge of their seats like an intense match. They have enough talent to have multiple great matches every single RAW and Smackdown.

That's one of the reasons I enjoyed Main Event the first couple months. Every week, the top match was very high quality. It's still an alright show, but it's already a bit watered down compared to when it first started. That was kind of expected though I guess.

There is no excuses for a 3-hour RAW though. There is plenty of time to pack in at least two or three very good matches. I know I'd stay more interested. It wouldn't hurt to let a heel or two other than Mark Henry win either. LOL.

No way that the Cena/Punk match is nearly that good without the great story built into it. A match without a story, or without anything on the line, won't do anything. There needs to be more meaningful matches, not just more, longer matches. A random 30 minute Daniel Bryan/Chris Jericho match might be technically awesome, but without any build up or anything on the line, no one is going to care.