It's almost future endeavor time!

[ExtremeGamer]

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He was entertaining in the ring, but nothing special in my opinion. Kind of bland overall.

Cold blooded, E. Releasing someone on the 23rd, lol.

Sounds like something happened based on the timing, the squash, and his tweets over the last week.

He ruled out TNA on twitter already, my guess is ROH as well.

[Streets]

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Let's face it, he wasn't ever going to do anything in the company anyway.

I know the Internet loves the guy, but I never saw why.

Totally agree. No big loss, IMO.

[DJ]

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Let's face it, he wasn't ever going to do anything in the company anyway.

I know the Internet loves the guy, but I never saw why.

WWE never really gave him a chance to succeed once they moved him to Smackdown after winning NXT. It was like they were punishing him for having somewhat of a following from having worked indies and TNA.

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Totally agree. No big loss, IMO.

A Randy Orton mark calls losing Kaval "No big loss." I think I've heard it all now.

[jvalverde88]

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Ever since I heard the "who's the little ****er" story, I knew Low ki really had no shot in the WWE. To be honest I was surpised that he was even signed by the WWE. One company's loss (WWE) is another company's gain (ROH).

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Ever since I heard the "who's the little ****er" story, I knew Low ki really had no shot in the WWE. To be honest I was surpised that he was even signed by the WWE. One company's loss (WWE) is another company's gain (ROH).

Bingo.

Kaval had the MotN at Survivor Series just last month. This is the stupidest release of the year, by far.

[Streets]

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A Randy Orton mark calls losing Kaval "No big loss." I think I've heard it all now.

I love how people take my opinions on here so personally. My thinking Orton is great and Kaval is boring is nothing more than an opinion, and I understand that it's not the "cool" or "popular" one on internet message boards. I'm cool with all of that. I just want people to know that I recognize the subtle smug "you are beneath me, because you don't share my opinion" jabs that go on both on these boards and in the Hip Hop thread (where if someone likes Kanye and doesn't listen to MC Deep Poems they are seen as "less than").

All opinions aside, the FACT is that Randy Orton has accomplished more and is WAY more over than Kaval/Low-Ki ever was. That's indisputable. Also, Kaval did absolutely nothing (aside from winning NXT and losing his title match) during his time on Smackdown. It's also safe to say that he probably wouldn't have done much in the WWE due to his size, look, and lack of charisma (though this is an opinion). So the fact that he has done nothing (fact) and was probably going nowhere (strong opinion) leads me to... "no big loss". Sorry if it offends. He's better off wrestling somewhere else where in-ring ability weighs more heavily than entertaining anyway.

Ever since I heard the "who's the little ****er" story, I knew Low ki really had no shot in the WWE. To be honest I was surpised that he was even signed by the WWE. One company's loss (WWE) is another company's gain (ROH).

Interesting... I don't think I heard this story. What happened? You can put it in spoiler tags if you want, but I'm interested.

[Santino]

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The Observer is reporting Kaval asked for his release due to the WWE having no plans for him. Just another case of a guy with an inflated sense of entitlement blowing his shot in the big league. At worse, Ki could have been their next Tajiri, at best, their next Mysterio.

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I don't really care or take whomever the WWE fires personally at all, but it's ludicrous to say that someone with the in-ring ability of Kaval is no big loss. He helped put on the MotN at Survivor Series with Ziggler just last month which should account for something. There are a lot of guys far more expendable than him that are still on the roster like Primo, Great Khali, JTG etc. etc. Wouldn't it be a lot more proactive to release any one of those guys who undoubtedly have a higher salary and no room for advancement than a guy who can actually work a proper match like Kaval?

Seriously, the Attitude Era basically ruined wrestling by giving birth to sports entertainment.

If a guy doesn't wear bling bling or have some awful rap song as his entrance or doesn't swear over and over in promos than he is no good regardless of his wrestling ability and it pisses me off to no end. If you want to be entertained with a bunch of drama with no substance, watch a soap opera or something. If you want to watch wrestling, watch wrestling.

Being able to work a five star wrestling match (which is something Kaval has done countless times and which is something Randy Orton will NEVER do even once) will always be far more important to me than talking into a microphone. The only reason guys like Orton are so over is because of how narrow minded the average "sports entertainment" fan is these days. Every time I hear an arena full of people chanting "What!?" over and over it makes me sick.

/rant

Anyway, back to the main topic. I think the worst thing about Kaval getting fired so fast is that it makes NXT basically worthless. I mean, who cares who wins if the winner isn't even going to get a remotely decent push anyway? Barrett won season one and got a MEGA push as did every other guy involved with the Nexus angle. Hell, there are three guys from season two who have gotten a lot more of a push as well, McGillicutty and Harris as part of the Nexus and Riley as the personal assistant/manager of the current WWE Champion. So, who basically cares about NXT at all if the actual winner is unemployed within months of winning the show while three other guys who were runner ups, all with far less in-ring ability, still have solid roles? Bad move all around as it not only takes a great wrestler off of television but it also makes one of the WWE's programs a bigger mockery of itself than it already was to begin with.

Okay, WWE, just give us Tyler Black (or whatever the hell you idiots up in Connecticut decided to name him) soon and we just might be willing to forgive you for this mistake you just made.

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The Observer is reporting Kaval asked for his release due to the WWE having no plans for him. Just another case of a guy with an inflated sense of entitlement blowing his shot in the big league. At worse, Ki could have been their next Tajiri, at best, their next Mysterio.

Well, if he did ask for his release than I feel a lot better about it. I still think it was a big mistake to completely deny him of the slightest push since he was the winner of NXT season two though. What the hell is the point of the show if they aren't going push the winners and still push the runners up?

[stlstudios189]

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I sm going to take some heat for this but, IMO Kaval and Daniel Bryan both bore the crud out of me.

[goh]

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All opinions aside, the FACT is that Randy Orton has accomplished more and is WAY more over than Kaval/Low-Ki ever was. That's indisputable.

Yah and Sid & Diesel won a world title while Mr. Perfect & Ted DiBiase didn't.

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Yah and Sid & Diesel won a world title while Mr. Perfect & Ted DiBiase didn't.

[fpac]

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Getting over with the crowd being more important than putting on 5 * matches happened long before the attitude era.

[Streets]

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I don't really care or take whomever the WWE fires personally at all, but it's ludicrous to say that someone with the in-ring ability of Kaval is no big loss. He helped put on the MotN at Survivor Series with Ziggler just last month which should account for something.

I didn't mean that you took the firing personally. Rather, you take my comments on Kaval personally. MOTN is an opinion, one that I don't share as I find Kaval and Ziggler boring as hell. I wasn't invested in the match (like I was Barrett-Orton), because they both have the personality of a dry moth so I didn't care who won. And I didn't say that Kaval getting canned was "no big loss", I said it was "no big loss, imo". Again, MY opinion, which seems to irk you.

There are a lot of guys far more expendable than him that are still on the roster like Primo, Great Khali, JTG etc. etc. Wouldn't it be a lot more proactive to release any one of those guys who undoubtedly have a higher salary and no room for advancement than a guy who can actually work a proper match like Kaval?

Definately agree, but I'd also say they were no big loss as well (again, my opinion).

Seriously, the Attitude Era basically ruined wrestling by giving birth to sports entertainment.

If a guy doesn't wear bling bling or have some awful rap song as his entrance or doesn't swear over and over in promos than he is no good regardless of his wrestling ability and it pisses me off to no end. If you want to be entertained with a bunch of drama with no substance, watch a soap opera or something. If you want to watch wrestling, watch wrestling.

Agreed. If you want to watch wrestling, watch wrestling. WWE is Sports Entertainment now and does absolutely nothing to hide that fact. So why watch something if you are just going to criticize it all the time, when you have other options that seem to be more to your liking (I wouldn't know for sure as I've never watched those other promotions, but it's an educated guess). I mean if you want to watch people fake beat eachother up in their underwear as a focus with the storylines being secondary I'm sure ROH has to be better (again, a guess).

Being able to work a five star wrestling match (which is something Kaval has done countless times and which is something Randy Orton will NEVER do even once) will always be far more important to me than talking into a microphone. The only reason guys like Orton are so over is because of how narrow minded the average "sports entertainment" fan is these days. Every time I hear an arena full of people chanting "What!?" over and over it makes me sick.

/rant

Again, an example of "I'm better than you because you don't share my opinion". Insulting other fans and calling them narrow minded because they are into things that you're not... it's not that serious, man.

Anyway, back to the main topic. I think the worst thing about Kaval getting fired so fast is that it makes NXT basically worthless. I mean, who cares who wins if the winner isn't even going to get a remotely decent push anyway? Barrett won season one and got a MEGA push as did every other guy involved with the Nexus angle. Hell, there are three guys from season two who have gotten a lot more of a push as well, McGillicutty and Harris as part of the Nexus and Riley as the personal assistant/manager of the current WWE Champion. So, who basically cares about NXT at all if the actual winner is unemployed within months of winning the show while three other guys who were runner ups, all with far less in-ring ability, still have solid roles? Bad move all around as it not only takes a great wrestler off of television but it also makes one of the WWE's programs a bigger mockery of itself than it already was to begin with.

NXT died with the Divas and the move to .com. Runners up doing more than winners isn't new to the WWE dating back to tough enough. Not a big deal to me, but I can see your concern.

Okay, WWE, just give us Tyler Black (or whatever the hell you idiots up in Connecticut decided to name him) soon and we just might be willing to forgive you for this mistake you just made.

You criticize the product, call them idiots, but keep giving them your time and your money...

Getting over with the crowd being more important than putting on 5 * matches happened long before the attitude era.

Yup. TO ME a 5* match means little if I don't care about the outcome.