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  • Redacted01
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2007
    • 10316

    #46
    Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

    Originally posted by IrishSalsa
    Ok first I will list what each attribute does, which will explain why I lowered some more than others.

    Strike Power= level of damage caused by strikes
    Grapple Power= level of damage caused by grapple attacks
    Submission= level of damage caused by the offensive application of "Breaking Point" Submission moves.
    Strike Defense= level of difficulty for reversin strike attacks. Higher the rating, the easier it'll be to reverse successfully.
    Grapple Defense= level of difficulty for reversing grapple attacks. Higher the rating, the easier to reverse successfully.
    Speed= quickness of movement
    Agility= Superstars range for performing dive attacks off the turnbuckle as well as speed they are able to mount the turnbuckle.
    Adrenaline= length of time a Superstar can run w/o interruption.
    Recovery= speed in which a Superstar is able to recover from an incapacitated state.
    Durability= level of difficulty to be elimanated from royal rumble, and submissions. Higher the rating, the less likely you are to be eliminated from the Rumble or submitted.
    Tag Team= level of damage caused by double team grapple moves.


    Roster edits I did are as follows:

    Strike/Grapple Power: -50

    Submission: -20

    Strike/Grapple Defense: -20

    Speed: -30

    Agility: -10

    Adrenaline: -20

    Recovery: -50

    Durability: No change

    Charisma: -75

    Tag Team: -15


    Here are my sliders I've been messing with and found to be pretty good. Hard difficulty level btw... (All settings from zero;starting from the left to right)

    A.I. Reversals

    Standing Strike- 6
    Standing Grapple- 7
    Ground Strike- 6
    Ground Grapple- 6
    Finisher- MAX
    Foreign Attack- 10

    Damage:

    Finisher- MAX
    Foreign Object- 15

    General:

    Standing Strike- 0
    Standing Grapple- 0
    Ground Strike- 2
    Ground Grapple- 2
    Finisher Reversal- MAX
    Foreign Object- 9
    Momentum Rate Attacks- 0
    Momentum Rate Taunts- 0
    Adrenaline Rate- 0


    Also, before the match go to match creator and make sure to always turn the momentum bar to slow.
    I had about a 5-6 minute match with Tatsu vs. Kidd, losing as Tatsu. It was still hard to get offense going and Kidd did a lot of reversals. It did feel like it played better than with standard sliders, but I don't think Tyson even used his finisher. However, he did go for several pin attempts so it felt good. Part of it is I still don't have the controls completely down and end up doing a lot of repetitive moves and probably don't really wear down the opponent when I have the chance. Will play a bit more before I edit attributes, but it may be necessary.

    EDIT: Went longer with Riley (me) vs. McIntyre, but again, no finisher needed. Was able to pin him after just regular attacks. I will turn up the difficulty level and see about any differences, but it looks like attributes and sliders are necessary to get solid gameplay.

    Just watched an AI tag elimination match: Big Show and Kane vs. Mark Henry and Christian. Christian was eliminated 10:30 in and Mark Henry finally got pinned 14:30 in. Would have liked to see Kane or Big Show get eliminated, but an almost 15 minute AI match that looked pretty solid? I'll take it.
    Last edited by Redacted01; 11-25-2011, 10:43 AM.

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    • RDZ29
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      • Feb 2011
      • 140

      #47
      Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

      Originally posted by Steven547
      They always seem to do the finishers on me. That's been the only way they've beaten me. I'm going to try and re-rate a ton of wrestlers, maybe an attribute has something to do with it.
      Cool, Im gonna play alot more matches soon, I'll see how many times they actually get a sig/Finisher.
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      • RDZ29
        Rookie
        • Feb 2011
        • 140

        #48
        Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

        Help please

        I dont know why but all of a sudden I am dominating everyone on legend.

        yesterday I would get killed if I faced Cena, Taker, Rock etc. on Legend. But last night and this mourning I am just winning to easy.

        Heres what Im plying on

        Legend

        AI

        16
        16
        15
        15
        MAX
        10

        Damage
        Max
        15

        General

        0
        0
        2
        2
        MAX
        9
        0
        0
        0

        Once I switched everyones ovr, it has gotten easier. But i switched a couple people back to default and I still won pretty easy.

        about 5 mins ago, I beat Del Rio with Slater

        Anyone know whats up, I know i didnt just get better all of sudden, the cpu is just not as aggressive as they were befor

        Help please
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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47510

          #49
          Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

          I haven't tried out this yet, but will be interesting to do though. Only sliders I adjusted so far was momentum from taunts/attacks as well as reversals and finisher strengths.

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          • Seymour Scagnetti
            Banned
            • Oct 2006
            • 2489

            #50
            Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

            Originally posted by RDZ29
            Help please

            I dont know why but all of a sudden I am dominating everyone on legend.

            yesterday I would get killed if I faced Cena, Taker, Rock etc. on Legend. But last night and this mourning I am just winning to easy.

            Heres what Im plying on

            Legend

            AI

            16
            16
            15
            15
            MAX
            10

            Damage
            Max
            15

            General

            0
            0
            2
            2
            MAX
            9
            0
            0
            0

            Once I switched everyones ovr, it has gotten easier. But i switched a couple people back to default and I still won pretty easy.

            about 5 mins ago, I beat Del Rio with Slater

            Anyone know whats up, I know i didnt just get better all of sudden, the cpu is just not as aggressive as they were befor

            Help please
            I kinda noticed that fighting against Del Rio (on hard) but I thought it was my imagination. A few times he had me down and just stood there and waited for me to get up and he wasn't in a groggy state. It's like the AI was stuck in an animation deciding what move to do next so it's less aggressive. Are you noticing that? The Del Rio match was the worst and the last match I played before I went to sleep so I'll see tonite if it's getting worse.

            It happened a little bit against Mark Henry just before that but that was the 1st time I fought him so I thought maybe that was just the AI for him. I won both matches because of that and not because I was hitting more reversals. It seems like the AI is just standing around the more you play.

            That would be the 1st game I ever played where the AI actually changes it's whole makeup, it's like an anti-adaptive AI. That wouldn't be good. I was winning 50% of my matches on hard so I'll see tonite if I start winning every match then something may be up.

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            • RDZ29
              Rookie
              • Feb 2011
              • 140

              #51
              Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

              Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
              I kinda noticed that fighting against Del Rio (on hard) but I thought it was my imagination. A few times he had me down and just stood there and waited for me to get up and he wasn't in a groggy state. It's like the AI was stuck in an animation deciding what move to do next so it's less aggressive. Are you noticing that? The Del Rio match was the worst and the last match I played before I went to sleep so I'll see tonite if it's getting worse.

              It happened a little bit against Mark Henry just before that but that was the 1st time I fought him so I thought maybe that was just the AI for him. I won both matches because of that and not because I was hitting more reversals. It seems like the AI is just standing around the more you play.

              That would be the 1st game I ever played where the AI actually changes it's whole makeup, it's like an anti-adaptive AI. That wouldn't be good. I was winning 50% of my matches on hard so I'll see tonite if I start winning every match then something may be up.
              OK, tell me how it goes tonite

              This is what I did, I went to all of the AI, General, Damage, etc. options and clicked X (xbox controller) to put it all back at default.

              I played a default match on legend with slow momentum(match Creator)

              DEFAULT LEGEND SLIDERS

              Cody Rhodes(me) lost to Randy Orton(cpu) in 7:17 by way of the RKO

              Randy seemed way more aggressive

              So if it happends to you too, go to options and put it back at default and try. Randy controlled basically the whole match, I got some good moves here and there. Only got his head and body in yellow according to the Targeting system.

              This match was with default overalls too.

              CR=85 RKO=94
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              • Millennium
                Franchise Streamer
                • Aug 2002
                • 9889

                #52
                Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                Has anyone done any sliders work WITHOUT wrestler edits?

                Hate to say it, but aren't most WWE matches 7-10 minutes long? A 15 minute match is normally PPV quality.
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                • Seymour Scagnetti
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2489

                  #53
                  Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                  Originally posted by RDZ29
                  OK, tell me how it goes tonite

                  This is what I did, I went to all of the AI, General, Damage, etc. options and clicked X (xbox controller) to put it all back at default.

                  I played a default match on legend with slow momentum(match Creator)

                  DEFAULT LEGEND SLIDERS

                  Cody Rhodes(me) lost to Randy Orton(cpu) in 7:17 by way of the RKO

                  Randy seemed way more aggressive

                  So if it happends to you too, go to options and put it back at default and try. Randy controlled basically the whole match, I got some good moves here and there. Only got his head and body in yellow according to the Targeting system.

                  This match was with default overalls too.

                  CR=85 RKO=94
                  I'll see how it goes. I've been using the same sliders (with my 50 click down attributes) and haven't experimented because I've still been having good matches so it could be the case of if you screw around with the sliders too much it could also end up screwing the AI aggression.

                  One thing with the Del Rio match is that this stuff happened later in the match at the 10-12 minute mark so it could have just been a case of the AI being more damaged and therefore less aggressive which is logical.

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                  • RDZ29
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 140

                    #54
                    Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                    Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
                    I'll see how it goes. I've been using the same sliders (with my 50 click down attributes) and haven't experimented because I've still been having good matches so it could be the case of if you screw around with the sliders too much it could also end up screwing the AI aggression.

                    One thing with the Del Rio match is that this stuff happened later in the match at the 10-12 minute mark so it could have just been a case of the AI being more damaged and therefore less aggressive which is logical.
                    True, For me tho, it was less aggressive even at the beginning. But the last match with Cody was tough. Maybe your right if you mess with sliders to much the AI gets a little messed up too.
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                    • RDZ29
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 140

                      #55
                      Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                      Is anyone using default overalls? I know almost everyone is switching people to -50 at some attributes, but will anybody be making it the same with some tweaks

                      I mean

                      Cody Rhodes starts out a 85 in this game but since hes been doing good in real life, maybe bump him up a few points. to maybe a 87 or 88.

                      Sheamus because hes been a major player in WWE right now should get up to like a 91 or 92

                      Maybe we could do a ovr system like

                      Main Eventers = 90+ overall
                      Mid Carders = 85 - 90
                      Low Card = 80=85
                      Jobber = 70 and lower

                      or

                      Main Eventers = 90+
                      Mid Card = 80-90
                      Low Card = 70-80
                      Jobber = 69 and lower


                      I might adjust attributes based on Real Life, instead of just lowering peoples to make them a 50 ovr which to me is pretty weird to see.

                      One of the post above is correct, the average match is usually between 5-10 mins in WWE, and thats what I get with default attributes. Plus in Universe mode, I wouldnt want to see every match go for over 14 mins. espcially if its Santino vs Kozlov (no disrepect to them)

                      So is anyone interested in this or already done this?
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                      • Redacted01
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 10316

                        #56
                        Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                        Originally posted by Millennium
                        Has anyone done any sliders work WITHOUT wrestler edits?

                        Hate to say it, but aren't most WWE matches 7-10 minutes long? A 15 minute match is normally PPV quality.
                        It's a video game. It's not going to know the difference in a TV match and a PPV match. Set it up for whatever length of match you prefer.

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                        • RDZ29
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 140

                          #57
                          Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                          Just played a match in my Universe mode

                          Swagger(me) vs Rey Mysterio

                          Default evrything, Legend difficulty, slow momentum

                          I won with the Gutwrench powerbomb in 12:33 match

                          He broke out of my Ankle Lock and I kicked out of the 619

                          Does anyone know what good momentum and damage sliders would be for default legend difficulty. I tried momentum at 0 but the cpu usually doesn't get there finisher unless they do a comeback.

                          EDIT

                          Next Match

                          Miz(me) beat Kofi in 7:44 by the Skull Crushing Finale
                          Last edited by RDZ29; 11-25-2011, 01:23 PM.
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                          • Jukeman
                            Showtime
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 10955

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Millennium
                            Has anyone done any sliders work WITHOUT wrestler edits?

                            Hate to say it, but aren't most WWE matches 7-10 minutes long? A 15 minute match is normally PPV quality.
                            Im shooting for 10 min matches on average. Should be quicker against scubs.

                            Only edit Ive done so far is durability.

                            To be honest, the sliders are too limited. its rely nothing but setting the difficulty of reversals and that is not really a problem if you have stick skills. The main thing is that guys get damaged way too fast.


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                            Last edited by Jukeman; 11-25-2011, 02:22 PM.

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                            • Jukeman
                              Showtime
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10955

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
                              I'll see how it goes. I've been using the same sliders (with my 50 click down attributes) and haven't experimented because I've still been having good matches so it could be the case of if you screw around with the sliders too much it could also end up screwing the AI aggression.

                              One thing with the Del Rio match is that this stuff happened later in the match at the 10-12 minute mark so it could have just been a case of the AI being more damaged and therefore less aggressive which is logical.
                              Lowering reversals for the AI def screws up their aggression.

                              Also noticed it with the lower OVR and that is why I started messing with durability.


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                              Last edited by Jukeman; 11-25-2011, 02:32 PM.

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                              • RDZ29
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 140

                                #60
                                Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                                Originally posted by Jukeman
                                Lowering reversals for the AI def screws up their aggression.

                                Also noticed it with the lower OVR and that is why I started messing with durability.


                                Sent from my HumancentiPad using Tapatalk
                                So you think they become less agressive if they have a lower OVR?

                                That makes sense to me, because once I edited everyone to -50 at Grapple/Strike power, I was winning alot more, even matches I prolly shouldn't of. Guys like Cena and Orton just werent that agressive.

                                I switched back to the default OVRs earlier and there playing like they did when i first got the game.

                                What are you doing with the Durability?
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