What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

[Caveman24]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

I say it has to start with the talent.While I'm only 19 the golden-era and attitude era had guys you could get behind.Vince messed up when he stop allowing Jim Ross to be VP of talent relations.they made John Laurinaitis head of talent VP back in 2004 and WWE been lacking "stars" since.I'll make a list to show you what I mean.

Jim Ross
Randy Orton
John Cena
Batisia
MVP
Shelton Benjamin
Brock Lesnar

John Laurinaitis
Jack Swagger
Sheamus
Kelly Kelly
Alicia Fox
Curt Hawkins
More divas and stale guys

See the difference?Vince also needs to step down.I appreciate everything you done.But there's a reason why Shane O'Mac had to go to China to run a cable company he wasn't going let his career go to waist.While Vince does the same ole same ole and not give up his position.

Simple fixes for WWE.

-Stop getting the same stale guys.I'm tired of seeing these over buff steroid guys that would make Barry Bonds jealous.

-Get away from the baby stuff.You want to make a Saturday morning kiddy show fine.But don't change your whole business model just to please less than 20% of your fan base.

-Less PPVS tired of paying $55 for a PPV.Just for you to turn around and slap me in the face and put the same match on tv the following week.

-Actually build a wrestler up so people can get behind him.Don't have him in a bunch of squash matches to make him look superior then complain when he doesn't draw the way you thought he would.(ie:Jack Swagger,Great Khali, Ezekiel Jackson)

-Less titles go with 1 main title(World heavyweight) then 2 minor titles(Intercontinental,U.S.)then the tag titles,1 women title.To many belts right now the less titles the more competition and you'll start to see more feuds.Instead of the belts being meaningless and being tossed around every month.

[jvalverde88]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

Swagger was actually scouted by JR. For as much as I despise Russo one thing I give him credit for is his development of characters. The dude knew how to sit with a individual wrestler and develop his/her character. Character development now sucks. You have great wrestlers like Kidd, Cesaro, Swagger and etc, but their character sucks.

The average fan would look at some of those guys and say "Meh, they don't do anything for me. Sure they are good wrestlers but they don't interest me." You have to give wrestlers something to get fans to pay attention to them. Look at R-Truth, no one gave a damn about him but when he came out with the Lil' Jimmy gimmick people actually were interested in him even the hard to please fans. That is just one thing s wrong with WWE since everyone else stated the other obvious problems.

[goh]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

I believe Ross "found" Swagger.

Orton can't wrestle his way out of a paper bag. Seriously. Someone gave him one once to try. Daniel Bryan had to come over and pull it off him. Zack Ryder was there to record it but they moved his show to the WWE channel so he never got to show it.

MVP robbed a bank.

Shelton was wasted.

Batista is worse than Orton. He's still trying to outwit that plastic bag. It consumes him.

There's nothing wrong with the talent. They have more than ever. They just don't know what to do with them and when they DO get an idea they run it into the ground until it's worthless but even then refuse to acknowledge it and make it even worse.

Take Tyson Kidd and Perfect Jr.
Series of absolutely fantastic matches. Some of the best of the year.
It was over pretty much nothing other than a one off "My dad wrestled your girlfriends uncle. Let's go!" and buried away on NXT. Put that on Raw/SD...have a longer match at a PPV...make it over the IC title with more of the legacy stuff and boom. 2 new stars,IC title credible again,an actual feud that lasts more than 2 PPV matchs or 3 with a rematch clause and a lot more people see their excellent in ring work.

[Caveman24]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

^^^ I'm kind of new to this side of the site does he normally pull stunts like that?

[georgiafan]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

^^^ I'm kind of new to this side of the site does he normally pull stunts like that?

Lol he hates Orton and 95% of all video games

[Bellsprout]

Lol he hates Orton and 95% of all video games

It amuses me that you think he only hates 95% of video games.

[Chrisksaint]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

The answer is simple and only requires 2 words:

Stephanie McMahon

[ubernoob]

The answer is simple and only requires 2 words:

Stephanie McMahon

While I do agree with more Steph the answer truly is quite simple.

The story lines are horrendous and uninspired. It's no secret the in ring product today at least triples what we had in the Attitude Era. Why then do we have the stagnancy? None of it is compelling. It is predictable.

Wrestling at its core is based upon larger than life forces of good vs. Evil. We tune in to see the good struggle and triumph over the bad.

There is absolutely none of that right now.

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[jorge380]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

Stop having the same matches over and over.

[rangerrick012]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

Swagger was actually scouted by JR. For as much as I despise Russo one thing I give him credit for is his development of characters. The dude knew how to sit with a individual wrestler and develop his/her character. Character development now sucks. You have great wrestlers like Kidd, Cesaro, Swagger and etc, but their character sucks.

The average fan would look at some of those guys and say "Meh, they don't do anything for me. Sure they are good wrestlers but they don't interest me." You have to give wrestlers something to get fans to pay attention to them. Look at R-Truth, no one gave a damn about him but when he came out with the Lil' Jimmy gimmick people actually were interested in him even the hard to please fans. That is just one thing s wrong with WWE since everyone else stated the other obvious problems.

Exactly. I know it's hard when you have a champ who's constantly going on and on about how he's the best 'wrassler' in the world, but WWE shouldn't take itself too seriously. I'm not saying everyone should be like Hornswoggle, but there has to be more guys with identifiable gimmicks that make them stand out.

I still don't know what the hell Cody Rhodes' gimmick is. Am I saying he's a bad wrestler, no. But to the average fan, they need something that can make guys stand out and be memorable. Too many cookie cutters now.

Just look at ADR. Debuts as a Mexican aristocrat, then they slowly turned him into another generic brooding heel. Tried to do the same w/ Zigger w/ the whole haircut fiasco. Creative just sucks at developing 'characters' these days.

[goh]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

^^^ I'm kind of new to this side of the site does he normally pull stunts like that?

Like what exactly?

[TMagic]

I believe Ross "found" Swagger.

Orton can't wrestle his way out of a paper bag. Seriously. Someone gave him one once to try. Daniel Bryan had to come over and pull it off him. Zack Ryder was there to record it but they moved his show to the WWE channel so he never got to show it.

MVP robbed a bank.

Shelton was wasted.

Batista is worse than Orton. He's still trying to outwit that plastic bag. It consumes him.

There's nothing wrong with the talent. They have more than ever. They just don't know what to do with them and when they DO get an idea they run it into the ground until it's worthless but even then refuse to acknowledge it and make it even worse.

Take Tyson Kidd and Perfect Jr.
Series of absolutely fantastic matches. Some of the best of the year.
It was over pretty much nothing other than a one off "My dad wrestled your girlfriends uncle. Let's go!" and buried away on NXT. Put that on Raw/SD...have a longer match at a PPV...make it over the IC title with more of the legacy stuff and boom. 2 new stars,IC title credible again,an actual feud that lasts more than 2 PPV matchs or 3 with a rematch clause and a lot more people see their excellent in ring work.

The talent and in ring product is way better than the AE. I remember going back and watching Stone Cold vs Rock at Wrestlemania a while back. It was nothing more than a bunch of punches and kicks. Lol

I loved it back then though and thought it was the greatest thing ever because of the build and the characters. Same with Rock/Hogan.That's what matters more than anything else. Those matches still stand out in my mind till this day. It was the build that helped make them even more memorable as I still remember some of the goings-ons before the matches themselves.

The only match I can say jumps out in my mind since then were Takers matches with Michaels and HHH and Punk/Cena at TLC.

I was watching wrestling for a little bit with my roommate not too long ago. He stopped watching from the AE days. He still noticed how much the "wrestling" improved saying something along the lines of, "Wow. They are a heck of a lot better now Tmagic. Jeez."

Never watched it again.

I tell him that the Rock came back, and he was there every night to see what Rock and Cena have to say to each other.

I guess my point in all of this is in saying that the wrestling is not the most important thing at all.

I'm all for good wrestling. But I want those "Moments". The rivalries. The larger than life characters. Thats what would make me look forward to RAW every week. To each pay per view. That's exactly whats missing now. Its not better wrestlers getting more time.

I did not care about Bryan at all until he added to his character. And I believe this applies to most fans. He used to get no reaction though he was one of the better wrestlers. Now he's become a hit with the fans and myself because he introduced this ridiculously hilarious character.

Again, I'm not saying I'm against good wrestling.

Just saying that if I had the option to see Mr Perfect Jr/Tyson Kidd or Rock/Cena, I'm going Rock/Cena EVERY time. Lol

[Chrisksaint]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

While I do agree with more Steph the answer truly is quite simple.

The story lines are horrendous and uninspired. It's no secret the in ring product today at least triples what we had in the Attitude Era. Why then do we have the stagnancy? None of it is compelling. It is predictable.

Wrestling at its core is based upon larger than life forces of good vs. Evil. We tune in to see the good struggle and triumph over the bad.

There is absolutely none of that right now.

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I think that's what whoever spoke up against Vince backstage a few weeks ago was probably hinting at, nothing that's going on in the WWE is all that interesting to the people that are watching. I mean ring talent only goes so far if you don't have great stories to back it

[Streets]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

The talent and in ring product is way better than the AE. I remember going back and watching Stone Cold vs Rock at Wrestlemania a while back. It was nothing more than a bunch of punches and kicks. Lol

I loved it back then though and thought it was the greatest thing ever because of the build and the characters. Same with Rock/Hogan.That's what matters more than anything else. Those matches still stand out in my mind till this day. It was the build that helped make them even more memorable as I still remember some of the goings-ons before the matches themselves.

The only match I can say jumps out in my mind since then were Takers matches with Michaels and HHH and Punk/Cena at TLC.

I was watching wrestling for a little bit with my roommate not too long ago. He stopped watching from the AE days. He still noticed how much the "wrestling" improved saying something along the lines of, "Wow. They are a heck of a lot better now Tmagic. Jeez."

Never watched it again.

I tell him that the Rock came back, and he was there every night to see what Rock and Cena have to say to each other.

I guess my point in all of this is in saying that the wrestling is not the most important thing at all.

I'm all for good wrestling. But I want those "Moments". The rivalries. The larger than life characters. Thats what would make me look forward to RAW every week. To each pay per view. That's exactly whats missing now. Its not better wrestlers getting more time.

I did not care about Bryan at all until he added to his character. And I believe this applies to most fans. He used to get no reaction though he was one of the better wrestlers. Now he's become a hit with the fans and myself because he introduced this ridiculously hilarious character.

Again, I'm not saying I'm against good wrestling.

Just saying that if I had the option to see Mr Perfect Jr/Tyson Kidd or Rock/Cena, I'm going Rock/Cena EVERY time. Lol

Everything you posted here is 100% spot on and is exactly how I feel. I'll always take someone with an interesting character or storyline over someone who is great in the ring and doesn't botch moves.

By the way, I think it's hilarious that your roommate calls you TMagic... just saying.

[goh]

Re: What does WWE need to do to be dominant again?

That's what I'm saying though. They're not doing anything with all this talent. If they actually built up Kidd and McGillicutty you'd have the in-ring AND storyline and would take that over Cena/Rock then. That match was 27 minutes of suck and 5 minutes of awesome. We can get 20 minutes of awesome but it doesn't mean anything.