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  • reyes the roof
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2009
    • 11526

    #3091
    Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by SPTO
    So they're showing Halloween Havoc 1989 in the middle of the damn night tonight.....I will be watching like a fool that I am. It's actually one of those cards that i've heard a lot about but never seen the full show. This is one time I'm glad I don't have a job LOL.
    The one thing that sticks out in my mind from that PPV was how the crowd turned on the Dynamic Dudes vs the Freebirds. The Dynamic Dudes were getting "blue chipper Rocky Maivia" type heat

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    • SmashMan
      All Star
      • Dec 2004
      • 9751

      #3092
      Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by st0rmb11
      This latest Monday Night Wars is outstanding, so far. I'm only about half way in, right now, but I love it!
      Some of the parallels to today's WWE are a little concerning.

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      • MachoMyers
        Old School
        • Jul 2002
        • 7670

        #3093
        Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

        I never thought I would see a Scott Putski reference on the Monday Night Wars series but there it is.

        Keith David: Fans on WWE programming were getting more dynamic storylines.

        *Cut to 'I'm going to choppy chop your pee pee.'

        Also Vickie mentioning the boys packing up and leaving WCW for WWF. There was Eddy....and Dean...and Perry...and...that was it. Just them. Move along.

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        • IndianBird
          MVP
          • Nov 2004
          • 2909

          #3094
          Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by MachoMyers
          I never thought I would see a Scott Putski reference on the Monday Night Wars series but there it is.

          Keith David: Fans on WWE programming were getting more dynamic storylines.

          *Cut to 'I'm going to choppy chop your pee pee.'

          Also Vickie mentioning the boys packing up and leaving WCW for WWF. There was Eddy....and Dean...and Perry...and...that was it. Just them. Move along.

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          • nate1986
            MVP
            • Sep 2012
            • 1185

            #3095
            Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

            one thing i have learned from this show there is a running theme what helped make WCW unique is what brought them down

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            • DJ
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2003
              • 17756

              #3096
              Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by nate1986
              one thing i have learned from this show there is a running theme what helped make WCW unique is what brought them down
              They were, outside of Goldberg, incapable of elevating talent to a main event level. The roster was incredibly talented, but with Hogan, Hall, Nash, etc., all having final say over booking decisions regarding their characters, it was near-impossible for guys like Rey, Jericho and Eddie to move up the card, and it's why they all left for WWE.

              Heck, Benoit left WCW right after he won the World Heavyweight Championship, that's how fed up he was with the company.

              It really is a shame because WCW had great financial backing and I truly believe that something could've been worked out post-AOL merger had they shown themselves capable of truly staying in the game with WWE. I think AOL and co. saw WCW as a sinking ship (yes, it was still drawing a 2.5 or so but they had still lost over 2 million viewers and were trending downward) and bailed. Had WCW been hovering around the 3.5-4.0 mark, there's no way they would have been yanked from TV.
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              • reyes the roof
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 11526

                #3097
                Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by MachoMyers
                Also Vickie mentioning the boys packing up and leaving WCW for WWF. There was Eddy....and Dean...and Perry...and...that was it. Just them. Move along.
                I was shocked that they showed the other guy and played a clip where JR mentioned his name

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                • jvalverde88
                  Moderator
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 11787

                  #3098
                  Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                  "WCW cruiserweights were really nameless, faceless people.."

                  Because "Viagra on a pole" match was much more entertaining, right Russo?

                  When they showed The Radicalz, I was hoping we would see a giant black dot between Eddie and Dean.
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                  • WWF80sKid
                    All Star
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 7095

                    #3099
                    Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                    I can't believe I paid no attention to if they showed Benoit or not. So they did??!

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                    • MachoMyers
                      Old School
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 7670

                      #3100
                      Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                      Yeah they showed Benoit when the Radicals attacked on their first Raw and they even included JR's commentary mentioning him.

                      While it was true that WWE gave Mr Nameless, Eddy and Rey heavyweight title runs they were forgettable. In Rey's case he was one of the worst booked champions ever and Benoit and Eddy never even sniffed the title again. So while the WWE gave them their 'big break' they eventually saw them as just vanilla midgets in the land of the giants.

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                      • Majingir
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 47671

                        #3101
                        Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                        ^Supposedly Eddie was gonna win the title again in 2005. I hope he actually was and it's not something WWE just stated to seem good and all. Who knows how diff things might have been had we actually got to continue on with that Eddie-Batista storyline. Eddie and Benoit changed the proceeding era so drastically.

                        Originally posted by nate1986
                        one thing i have learned from this show there is a running theme what helped make WCW unique is what brought them down
                        Ironically, what helped WWF become unique is also what almost brought them down before they even got started(like they mentioned in that DX one where they might have even been cancelled by USA cause of the change in content,but USA found it funny when DX basically made fun of the USA letter to WWF)

                        But the main running theme in all this...everything WWE is bashing about their pre-attitude era product, is exactly what's happening in WWE today! Garbage gimmicks, characters from the 80s, fans not being interested/getting fed up, roster talent being wasted and all that. WWE today is like if Austin stayed as ringmaster,Rock stayed as Rocky Maivia,HHH stayed as Hunter Hearst Helmsley,Foley was only Dude Love,Rikishi stayed as The Sultan,Godfather stayed as Shango and so on.
                        Last edited by Majingir; 10-16-2014, 09:15 PM.

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                        • IndianBird
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 2909

                          #3102
                          Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by MachoMyers
                          Yeah they showed Benoit when the Radicals attacked on their first Raw and they even included JR's commentary mentioning him.



                          While it was true that WWE gave Mr Nameless, Eddy and Rey heavyweight title runs they were forgettable. In Rey's case he was one of the worst booked champions ever and Benoit and Eddy never even sniffed the title again. So while the WWE gave them their 'big break' they eventually saw them as just vanilla midgets in the land of the giants.

                          Benoit won his title at the 20th anniversary of Wrestlemania over two of the biggest names in the industry. Not too shabby.
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                          • ubernoob
                            ****
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 15522

                            #3103
                            Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Majingir

                            But the main running theme in all this...everything WWE is bashing about their pre-attitude era product, is exactly what's happening in WWE today! Garbage gimmicks, characters from the 80s, fans not being interested/getting fed up, roster talent being wasted and all that. WWE today is like if Austin stayed as ringmaster,Rock stayed as Rocky Maivia,HHH stayed as Hunter Hearst Helmsley,Foley was only Dude Love,Rikishi stayed as The Sultan,Godfather stayed as Shango and so on.
                            Not remotely close at all to being true.
                            bad

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                            • MachoMyers
                              Old School
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 7670

                              #3104
                              Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by IndianBird
                              Benoit won his title at the 20th anniversary of Wrestlemania over two of the biggest names in the industry. Not too shabby.
                              It was a huge honor no doubt but while HHH and HBK went on to main event a hundred more times Benoit was done as a main eventer after jobbing clean to Orton. That year was a nice tribute to Guerrero and Benoit but the company didn't get behind them due to drawing power, ratings, backstage politics or a combination of all.
                              Last edited by MachoMyers; 10-17-2014, 01:15 AM.

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                              • DonkeyJote
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 9194

                                #3105
                                Re: WWE Network Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by MachoMyers
                                It was a huge honor no doubt but while HHH and HBK went on to main event a hundred more times Benoit was done as a main eventer after jobbing clean to Orton. That year was a nice tribute to Guerrero and Benoit but the company didn't get behind them due to drawing power, ratings, backstage politics or a combination of all.
                                I think they were a lot more behind Eddie. Had he not passed, I think he would've been back in the main event scene.

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