WWE Netflix/Peacock/ESPN Discussion Thread

[Majingir]

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As much as people loved the comedic stuff with Angle and the cowboy hat, that whole stuff with him and Austin didn't even last so long, and the underrated part of all that was Austin's comedic timing even without Angle during this time.

Sure, everyone wanted "the old stone cold", and felt like the 3 months after WM17 people were just hoping we'd find out Austin was playing Vince all along, but Austin during the early parts of the Invasion before he turned was funny.

I'm now on one of the earlier episodes of Raw I remember when I began watching weekly. When ECW joined the invasion (the real invasion 1.0 should've been ecw vs wwf which leads into wcw vs wwf durign rtwm, but that's a whole other rant).

Heber spearing Nick Patrick as revenge was funny and great at the same time.

And Dudleys mad at APA for beating them for the tag titles (thanks to Spike), only for Bradshaw to offer a friendly rematch for the titles on SD, and Bubba giving the first hint in the entire invasion of any sort of ECW involvement when he's like "we'll see what you have to say by the end of the show..." (APA were also the main ones trying to unite and defend WWF against the alliance).

ECW joining the invasion is one of the cooler moments not talked about as much in WWE history. As bad as the invasion angle ended up, July was especially so much fun from ECW joining to Austin turning and Rock returning.

This same episode with ECW joining the invasion also had the formation of the alliance and Stephanie McMahon Helmsley being the owner of ECW. I definitely think if HHH wasn't injured, he'd be the one joining The Alliance over Austin.

[Majingir]

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In this single segment, Angle and Jericho almost lost it, Kane is lucky he's wearing a mask, and Undertaker somehow didn't laugh.

Comedic Stone Cold is an underrated version of him

https://youtu.be/xsRkkqspjNE

Gotta love Kurt Angles comedy in 2001.

Raven: I want a match with you.

Angle: I'll fight you anytime, any place in any match you want.

Raven: You and me tonight, ECW rules!

Angle: ECW sucks, the WWF is the one that rules!

[Majingir]

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https://youtu.be/4cEOa1tJez0

Now that's "run through a wall" level of hype before a big battle.

Sure it would've been bigger if we had NWO,Goldberg,Sting,Flair and everyone else, but I still loved this era just for the big war going on.

And it helps that this happened right after

https://youtu.be/YiZVq7t_sfg

July 2001 was a great time in wrestling that doesn't get hyped as much since people just look at the "what ifs" instead of enjoying what did happen.

[dubcity]

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https://youtu.be/MSh7MibG8yc

For some reason the Corporate Ministry theme always makes me laugh. Also the fact that that stable even existed lol.

[TheMatrix31]

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https://youtu.be/MSh7MibG8yc
For some reason the Corporate Ministry theme always makes me laugh. Also the fact that that stable even existed lol.

Bad *** theme. One of my favorites ever.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Yeah that was my go theme during my CAW Days on Wrestlemania 2000.

[Majingir]

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A random thing I never really thought of before, but on one episode of SD I was watching they played the "don't try this at home" ad.

I remember back in those days people were spreading rumors about the stretcher clip where refs, medical staff and everyone was helping a single guy on the stretcher, with the rumor being that was the Owen clip. Not that I believed it, but I never thought to look up who it actually was.

Turns out that's the only footage of Droz ever released to the public from his career ending injury. Scary/sad to realize that same footage exists of Owen too (though the rumor I heard about that clip is that they've never digitized it and it's just on a VHS just locked away somewhere)

[Majingir]

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The lead up and actual match is so bad it's comical.

https://youtu.be/ha5PzTvuyi8

Can't believe even they got a pre match video package!

[dubcity]

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The lead up and actual match is so bad it's comical.

https://youtu.be/ha5PzTvuyi8

Can't believe even they got a pre match video package!

Nick Patrick was a born heel. He was so good in the NWO stuff, particularly his work with Jericho.

[Majingir]

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2012 was sure a weird time. I don't even remember stuff from then.

On the Canadian version of the network they air it like a TV channel (as cool as it can be, they dont air classic content nearly as much as they should). They aired a June 11 Raw from 2012. So before Raw went 3 hours with Raw1000, they had a 3 hour special just weeks prior for no real reason?

Kofi vs Big Show in a steel cage?

And McMahon yet again just mocking JR (who I don't even think was an active commentator at that time?) and you could hear the entire crowd groan/cringe when he was mocking JRs bells palsy in a backstage segment (and no, this wasn't even THAT segment).

[Majingir]

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Speaking of the Invasion, I was listening to JR commenting on the whole WCW takeover and while we know there were plans for them to have a WCW show (I still find it ridiculous to believe the rumors that Vince would "sacrifice" Raw for WCW when SD was just 2 years old at the time), but from what JR said, maybe it was just an internal belief, or maybe they for sure would've gotten the deal done by pitching the networks the idea of a WCW show if they had the big players from WCW.


Another what if from that time. Would the Invasion angle actually have happened with Hogan/NWO there, or would it just end at that Invasion PPV and it just branches off into WCW basically getting Nitro replacing SD.

A WCW show with Booker, DDP, ECW guys and some WWF guys I don't think would've been great (it would still be good, maybe just turned into WCW presents ECW by the end of that), but makes you wonder what the WWF run WCW show with Hogan,Nash,Hall,Goldberg and others would've been like, with the possibility to add Rock or someone else on it for that extra star power.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Soooo Thunder basically? Lol

Idk I feel like it wouldn’t have been as good as we’d think. Plus, weren’t some of those guys resented by most of the locker room during that time?

[Majingir]

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Soooo Thunder basically? Lol

Idk I feel like it wouldn’t have been as good as we’d think. Plus, weren’t some of those guys resented by most of the locker room during that time?

They wouldn't have any creative control in WWE like they did in WCW.

They were clearly looking at a brand extension even back then, with a WCW show being the early idea for what would become the brand extension.

Quality wise who knows what it would've ended up like, but you know the interest would've been there from the start simply because it's a WWF produced WCW show.

You probably could've eventually had those dream matches/feuds like Rock/Hogan, Triple H/Nash and others stemming from that show if we saw those guys cross over onto the WCW show.

Or maybe the invasion angle doesn't really happen until RTWM, which I always believed was their plan when you look at what the WM card was. Minus HHH vs Jericho (although, it could've still worked if Jericho or HHH just defected to WCW), all other big matches had the WWF vs WCW like stories in them.

[Mercury112491]

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Invasion would have worked so much better if they just had some of the former WCW guys defect back and have been working as “moles/spies” the whole time. At least then you could have had WCW with legit recognizable names that actually had WCW shine to them


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[Majingir]

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Invasion would have worked so much better if they just had some of the former WCW guys defect back and have been working as “moles/spies” the whole time. At least then you could have had WCW with legit recognizable names that actually had WCW shine to them


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I think that was their plan at some point.

They teased Benoit/Jericho winning the title at KOTR and defecting to WCW with the title.

Benoit got injured and Jericho stayed team WWF.

Perhaps Benoit would've jumped back to WCW even after losing?

Similarly with Eddie, what if he jumped over to WCW as well? They do a reverse Radicals and those two just go back to WCW this time around.

They should've had Jericho go to WCW too since he's one of the guys with ties to all 3 companies.

And HHH definitely would've played a big role in this. They were teasing a HHH/Austin split right before the injury. They probably would've been leading opposing sides during all that.

You really could've had Jericho, Booker, Benoit, Eddie, HHH vs Rock, Angle, Taker, Kane, Austin.