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  • GnarlyKing
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    • Jul 2003
    • 1669

    #61
    Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

    Originally posted by secondcity t
    I'm trying to look at the positives of this instead of "They aren't giving us what we want!". The people complaining would hate watching shows like The Wire and Breaking Bad where storylines didn't payoff until the 4th or 5th season.
    I don't think anyone would have problems with patience if we had been given any sort of confidence that there's a real long-term plan here. If we're comparing to tv shows, I'd equate current WWE booking with something more like Heroes, which built a fanbase with an incredible beginning and then spent the next few years seemingly not knowing from one week to the next where they were going with anything until most of those fans got fed up and left.

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    • secondcity t
      Rookie
      • Jul 2007
      • 145

      #62
      Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

      Originally posted by kingkilla56
      You lost me at Sheamus Bryan makes perfect sense. This is a redemption storyline? Since when? And they would be idiots to milk this till Wrestlemania 31.
      Bryan jobs in 18 seconds and the crowd proceeded to **** on the rest of Mania and Raw the next night. That gave him support. Sheamus is stale as a face anyway. Also, you're misquoting me. I said "if this is a redemption storyline" which all signs seem to point to. The fall and rise of Daniel Bryan since he lost at Mania 28 has been subtle. From losing in 18 seconds to the weak link to beating Cena then getting screwed by Orton. What people seem to be forgetting is WWE has built Bryan up as the underdog. Remember that Cena promo before Summerslam? The Solid B+ promo from Stephanie? Wrestling like actual sports is 85% psychology 15% physical. People seem to forget the psychological part of wrestling or maybe I listen to Nash and Jake The Snake too much.

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      • TheShizNo1
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        • Mar 2007
        • 26341

        #63
        Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

        So....... Daniel Bryan’s payoff isn't sticking it to the man (HHH) or winning the strap...... It's beating Sheamus. Yeah, that makes sense.

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        • TMagic
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          • Apr 2007
          • 7550

          #64
          Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

          Im confident that they are going to give Bryan his shot.

          They have to be going somewhere with Cena getting involved with the Wyatts. Bryan cant be done with them after losing clean last night.

          And if Cena is involved, that could only mean good things for Bryan right?
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          • Ice_Cold345
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            • Nov 2012
            • 2109

            #65
            Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

            Originally posted by TMagic
            Im confident that they are going to give Bryan his shot.

            They have to be going somewhere with Cena getting involved with the Wyatts. Bryan cant be done with them after losing clean last night.

            And if Cena is involved, that could only mean good things for Bryan right?
            I wouldn't be shocked if there was some odd Elimination Chamber match that was the Wyatt Family(all three) vs. Cena vs. Orton vs. Bryan for the WWE Title. It would could allow Bryan / Wyatts to end their feud and Cena/Wyatts to continue there, as well as getting Bryan involved with the Title again (Bray eliminates Cena after Wyatt family pummel him, then Bryan eliminates Bray, and Orton sneaks in and defends his title.) It would allow Bryan to have beef with Orton because he got beat by a sneaky Orton, and then you would have triple threat with Bryan / Orton / Batista at Mania with Cena / Wyatt as well.

            I doubt this could happen, but it at least makes sense in my mind.
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            • secondcity t
              Rookie
              • Jul 2007
              • 145

              #66
              Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

              Originally posted by TheShizNo1
              So....... Daniel Bryan’s payoff isn't sticking it to the man (HHH) or winning the strap...... It's beating Sheamus. Yeah, that makes sense.

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              *facepalm* I never said that it had to be the payoff! I'm gonna direct this post to the last 3 people who misread/misquoted me because like y'all, I'm trying to make sense out of what happened last night.

              If this Authority angle is a conspiracy to keep who they want on top and they're blurring kayfabe and reality, Sheamus makes tons of sense. He's a Triple H guy who won a major title within his first year. He beat Bryan in 18 seconds and after 2 years, he's in Bryan's way again. We complain about continuity in wrestling but when it's staring you in the face, no one wants it. "What's best for business" in my opinion is Triple H saying "I'm gonna put my guys in the top spots." It's happened in wrestling since I started watching in the late 80s/early 90s. The New Age Outlaws are the tag champions in 2014. They subtly threw out there that the only reason they got a shot was because they are boys of Triple H. Batista won the rumble and he's a known Triple H guy.

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              • Mr2Nice
                # The No Movement!
                • Mar 2012
                • 1262

                #67
                Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

                I just don't see the need to rush the process of Daniel Bryan. I wanna see Bryan be able to cut some promos by himself.

                The YES chant is one thing that makes Bryan a huge fan favorite. It would help if Big Show and others did it. The fans would not have done the whole YES thing as well. Grant its not as loud but it still loud enough.

                As for not having Bryan in the rumble the more I think about it the more I like that he wasn't in the rumble. Bray's and his match was great and stole the show early no reason to have him show up in it and lose again and have him lose twice in one night.

                So I'd say to fans of Bryan just be patient. HBK hinted in the preshow that when its Bryan's turn its going to be epic. Rather have it done in a epic way than just any old way!

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                • BDKiiing
                  Best in the World
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 9334

                  #68
                  Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  As awful as the ending was last night, we were all still going to watch Raw regardless of the result.
                  Thankfully I have to work tonight, so I can avoid watching.

                  Also, I truly believe Danielson won't ever get a run with the title.
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                  • Ice_Cold345
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 2109

                    #69
                    Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

                    Originally posted by secondcity t
                    *facepalm* I never said that it had to be the payoff! I'm gonna direct this post to the last 3 people who misread/misquoted me because like y'all, I'm trying to make sense out of what happened last night.

                    If this Authority angle is a conspiracy to keep who they want on top and they're blurring kayfabe and reality, Sheamus makes tons of sense. He's a Triple H guy who won a major title within his first year. He beat Bryan in 18 seconds and after 2 years, he's in Bryan's way again. We complain about continuity in wrestling but when it's staring you in the face, no one wants it. "What's best for business" in my opinion is Triple H saying "I'm gonna put my guys in the top spots." It's happened in wrestling since I started watching in the late 80s/early 90s. The New Age Outlaws are the tag champions in 2014. They subtly threw out there that the only reason they got a shot was because they are boys of Triple H. Batista won the rumble and he's a known Triple H guy.
                    But he's not in Bryan's way again. It would be putting another piece to be in the way, just for it to be in the way, and not really serve any purpose. That's what the Wyatts were for, to keep Bryan distracted until Mania season, so that he could possibly win the title and it for a good amount of time.

                    Sheamus's only connection to the story is that he is somewhat a Triple H guy, even then, there is no on-scene connection. You are putting backstage and kayfabe together, when that doesn't happen to much. NAO and Batista are there for "Triple H guys" because they have been on-screen with Triple H before(DX / Evolution), so it makes sense for them.

                    It would be delaying the inevitable Bryan title win, which will hurt Sheamus in the long run, because fans won't care for the match, because Bryan should be at the title, not dealing with two feuds that are "beneath" him (not disrespect to Bray or Sheamus, but they aren't top story guys at the moment.) It would a "swerve" when it's not even necessary. Authority / Bryan has been going on since August, Mania would be the perfect place for Bryan to win the title with the blowoff match at the next PPV.
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                    • DJ
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                      • Apr 2003
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                      #70
                      Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

                      Back to work ... the Machine won't let me win. I'll catch RAW on DVR later.
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                      • EL_GABE
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                        #71
                        Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

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                        • TMagic
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 7550

                          #72
                          Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

                          My question is where the **** does Lesnar fall in all of this?

                          He and Heyman coming out saying they want the title couldnt just be all fluff could it?
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                          • Mr2Nice
                            # The No Movement!
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 1262

                            #73
                            Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

                            Originally posted by TMagic
                            My question is where the **** does Lesnar fall in all of this?

                            He and Heyman coming out saying they want the title couldnt just be all fluff could it?
                            I'd be surprised if he didn't win it at EC

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                            • Ice_Cold345
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 2109

                              #74
                              Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

                              Originally posted by TMagic
                              My question is where the **** does Lesnar fall in all of this?

                              He and Heyman coming out saying they want the title couldnt just be all fluff could it?
                              It could be seen as just a heel being a heel. I think he still might feud with Taker(was totally waiting for GONG to save Big Show, or at least Rey to save Show(remove him from Rumble and put in Bryan).) Yeah, Lesnar is kinda just floating around as a piece that will put in to give him and someone else a feud. Cena / Punk / Bryan(more than likely) are taken up. They could put him against Sheamus, but it would be like the Big Show match, who really cares?
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                              • Bellsprout
                                Hard Times.
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 25652

                                #75
                                Re: Raw 1/27/14: If you quit watching for awhile, I wouldn't blame you.

                                Originally posted by Mr2Nice
                                I just don't see the need to rush the process of Daniel Bryan. I wanna see Bryan be able to cut some promos by himself.

                                The YES chant is one thing that makes Bryan a huge fan favorite. It would help if Big Show and others did it. The fans would not have done the whole YES thing as well. Grant its not as loud but it still loud enough.

                                As for not having Bryan in the rumble the more I think about it the more I like that he wasn't in the rumble. Bray's and his match was great and stole the show early no reason to have him show up in it and lose again and have him lose twice in one night.

                                So I'd say to fans of Bryan just be patient. HBK hinted in the preshow that when its Bryan's turn its going to be epic. Rather have it done in a epic way than just any old way!

                                What are we rushing? We've been waiting over a year for this. Then they gave it to us, took it away immediately, spent two months walking all over him, and now he's wrestling Sheamus maybe.

                                Maybe we've finally reached our breaking point on this and we're sick of WWE jerking us and him around like they have been forever now.
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