Raw 03/03/14: #hijackraw begins.

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His manager is pretend Russian.

Actually she grew up some in Russia.


Just realized the post shows on the Network will mess with dark matches/segments.

Happy to see the Usos FINALLY win the tag straps.

I haven't seen Raw yet, will probably watch it tomorrow afternoon, but having read what happened, I'm glad they did it that way. Punk is definitely done with WWE. Now he just needs to come home for one more match.

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^^^Agreed however there is another side. Punk under contract.

Now I dont know the specifics of the contract but he still had a legal obligation to fulfill his contract. WWE could really press the issue but im sure they dont want to burn bridges with punk.

Listening to the Cheap Heat podcast on Grantland, Shoemaker made it sound like he could have a specific number of appearances he needs to make and if he's fulfilled that then there isn't a whole lot the WWE can do even though he's technically still under contract. I agree with you, if he's under contract he should be there but it sounded like there may be some gray area as far as what he's actually required to do.

[PeoplesChampGB]

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CM Punk's "job" is completely different from any normal job any of us might have. He's extremely well paid and is basically an actor in a TV series. If an actor didn't like a script and just walked off the set he'd look like a jerk and rightfully so, your paid to act and do what's in the script, that's it. Punk is a pro wrestler paid to wrestle, not write, or produce the show or anything else, he's a performer for an entertainment company. He didn't like what the writers were doing, so he walked away, plain and simple.

I love CM and was pulling hard for a return tonight, but after tonight I don't care. It's about the fans as well not just him feeling disrespected. We bought all his Tshirts, and DVDs, cheered him no matter how average some of his stuff got in the last year and were still 100% behind him when he walked out because the main event looks like garbage right now and everyone thought he would be back soon anyways. He could have sucked it up, gone out there, gotten a huge pop, still be worshiped. Go for whatever BS match they make for him at wrestlemania and then walk away when his contract is up in a few months. That would have at least made the fans happy and everybody looks good when his contract is up and he wants to take an extended break for a few months. Now to me he sort of just looks like a selfish crybaby who didn't get his way, thought WWE would cave and give him a big match at wrestlemania and now he looks like a quitter, the WWE looks dumb for booking a terrible mania and the fans are pissed because everyone is at fault.


What is he trying to prove? That he knows better than all the bookers and writers and if they don't do what he thinks is best then he'll throw a hissy fit and walk away. After tonight now that I'd say he's definitely out of mania I will not be blindly supporting him when he comes back and when he does he needs to prove he's still a top notch performer who can kill it on the mic and also put on great matches and give the fans something to cheer about.

I think CM is just as much to blame for this whole mess as WWE, it was stupid to bring back Batista but I feel like CM owes it to the fans to not just pick up and leave in the middle of mania season and leave everyone confused and out for blood.

At the end of the day it is a job. If everyone was financially sound enough to be able to quit their job if they felt they were being crapped on, they'd do it. Don't act like you wouldn't. Though you do seem to think he just threw a hissyfit and left. We have no idea why he left other than he was burnt out. That came from his mouth.

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Just realized the post shows on the Network will mess with dark matches/segments.

Yeah, even as late as Friday there was a local ad promoting a Cena, Batista, Sheamus vs. Orton, Del Rio, Kane dark match. That obviously doesn't happen with the post-show being in the arena like that.

Undertaker was also advertised (added after Monday), and didn't show, so .

[PeoplesChampGB]

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People forget that Punk was still under contract. He only had a month or 2 left on said contract.

I agree with Punk being frustrated on how the WWE doesn't know how to utilize talent anymore but when punk walked out abruptly like that, it hurt his fellow wrestlers and didn't really solve anything in the process.

How did it hurt his fellow wrestlers? Bryan is still going to win the strap regardless. If anything it freed up a spot.

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Yeah, even as late as Friday there was a local ad promoting a Cena, Batista, Sheamus vs. Orton, Del Rio, Kane dark match. That obviously doesn't happen with the post-show being in the arena like that.

Undertaker was also advertised (added after Monday), and didn't show, so .

It kinda sucks with being there live missing out on it. Dark matches were always cool.

How did it hurt his fellow wrestlers? Bryan is still going to win the strap regardless. If anything it freed up a spot.

He may not have, he still might not.




Did Aaron Paul say bitch at all on the air? hah

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This isn't just an accounting job, he has fans, who've bought all his stuff, bought tickets in advance assuming he would be at events over the next few months and he seems to have decided he doesn't really care about all those people and unless it's all CM all the time then it's not worth his time to show up.

While technically yes, it is just a job that he gets paid for, he's caused other people to go out and spend money supporting him and now he just looks like another over paid athlete who doesn't care about anything except "respect" in the form of dollar signs. I think it was a very stupid move and fans will have a tough time trusting him and rooting for him now that this is his second walk out and it comes right before mania.

I'm convinced he'll be back eventually so this whole thing seems very stupid to me and just makes him look bad and untrustworthy in the future. Why should I bother caring if he doesn't really care about us.

Edit: Also I don't buy the burnt out excuse, he's a pro wrestler that's the schedule, why is he the only one that's always so burnt out while we hardly hear anything from the other 99% of the roster.

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He may not have, he still might not.

I actually think that the person that got helped the most by Punk leaving was Cesaro. Think about the Elimination Chamber match. If Punk was there I don't see Cesaro in that 6th spot and then we don't get that awesome match between him and Cena.

[SmashMan]

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I'm sure you guys figured it out by the "Ooohhh", but the second monitor Lesnar threw bounced out of the ring and into the crowd. Everyone seemed fine though.

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This isn't just an accounting job, he has fans, who've bought all his stuff, bought tickets in advance assuming he would be at events over the next few months and he seems to have decided he doesn't really care about all those people and unless it's all CM all the time then it's not worth his time to show up.

While technically yes, it is just a job that he gets paid for, he's caused other people to go out and spend money supporting him and now he just looks like another over paid athlete who doesn't care about anything except "respect" in the form of dollar signs. I think it was a very stupid move and fans will have a tough time trusting him and rooting for him now that this is his second walk out and it comes right before mania.

I'm convinced he'll be back eventually so this whole thing seems very stupid to me and just makes him look bad and untrustworthy in the future. Why should I bother caring if he doesn't really care about us.

Edit: Also I don't buy the burnt out excuse, he's a pro wrestler that's the schedule, why is he the only one that's always so burnt out while we hardly hear anything from the other 99% of the roster.

Punk was normally (not so much since the face turn) putting on the highest quality matches on the card. He was doing in night in and night out. Also his matches weren't ever squash matches and were generally 20+ minutes. There aren't many guys that have that kind of schedule sans Cena and Bryan. It's a grueling schedule I'm sure so being burnt out could be the actual reasoning and can't just be dismissed because nobody else is burned out.

[PeoplesChampGB]

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This isn't just an accounting job, he has fans, who've bought all his stuff, bought tickets in advance assuming he would be at events over the next few months and he seems to have decided he doesn't really care about all those people and unless it's all CM all the time then it's not worth his time to show up.

While technically yes, it is just a job that he gets paid for, he's caused other people to go out and spend money supporting him and now he just looks like another over paid athlete who doesn't care about anything except "respect" in the form of dollar signs. I think it was a very stupid move and fans will have a tough time trusting him and rooting for him now that this is his second walk out and it comes right before mania.

I'm convinced he'll be back eventually so this whole thing seems very stupid to me and just makes him look bad and untrustworthy in the future. Why should I bother caring if he doesn't really care about us.

Edit: Also I don't buy the burnt out excuse, he's a pro wrestler that's the schedule, why is he the only one that's always so burnt out while we hardly hear anything from the other 99% of the roster.

People pay money to see him, but they pay in advance just like the NFL, NBA. A player could retire, get cut, traded etc. and it just might not happen. Same thing in the WWE. You are not guaranteed to see anyone. That's why they say "Card Subject to Change".

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Actually she grew up some in Russia.


Just realized the post shows on the Network will mess with dark matches/segments.

Happy to see the Usos FINALLY win the tag straps.

I haven't seen Raw yet, will probably watch it tomorrow afternoon, but having read what happened, I'm glad they did it that way. Punk is definitely done with WWE. Now he just needs to come home for one more match.

USSR in Latvia. Not quite Russia, but close enough.

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USSR in Latvia. Not quite Russia, but close enough.

Soviet Union..***ssia. Whatever.

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Punk was normally (not so much since the face turn) putting on the highest quality matches on the card.

Not in WWE.

He had the best of the biggest matches (especially when it was Punk/Cena) but he wasn't out there stealing the shows week in, week out. Even his matches got pretty formulaic and boring.

If there is one thing I am pissed off about him leaving (and I have been a huge fan of him since high school when I'd make trips to ROH all the time when they were in Chicago and the surrounding area) it's that the WWE dropped the ball on Punk/Cena at WrestleMania, as the so-called "Main Event" or not.

The best Punk in WWE was Jeff Hardy era and the "Summer of Punk" up until the MITB match. Aside from that, he's been pretty "meh." His long title reign turned him into a whiny heel, which is a terrible character for him.

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People pay money to see him, but they pay in advance just like the NFL, NBA. A player could retire, get cut, traded etc. and it just might not happen. Same thing in the WWE. You are not guaranteed to see anyone. That's why they say "Card Subject to Change".

So that's it, he has no obligation to the fans or anyone else? This is his job, he didn't want to do it anymore so he left, end of story. That's fine, but he's going to come back to WWE, and I think they way he left was incredibly stupid and will have long term effects on his career. The roster is pretty loaded right now, why should WWE bend over backwards for him when he's already proved twice he'll just stop showing up if he doesn't fell like it.