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  • UFCMPunk
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    • Jan 2016
    • 8905

    #1996
    Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

    I see some fans are mad that Rock/Roman may take place at Chamber and that it's a match that HAS TO take place at Wrestlemania. I like the idea of pumping up the other PLEs with big matches so they feel just as important. If it means that Cody can still finish his story at Wrestlemania then it works out for everyone. They already sold over 45K tickets, and that stadium can hold up to 70,000 for a concert, the Eagles stadium in Philly has a max of 67,594.

    If WWE does what they did for Survivor Series and make a smaller stage, they could try to fit in as many fans as possible, hell it's even possible this could have more fans in attendance than Wrestlemania.

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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47667

      #1997
      Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

      Originally posted by UFCMPunk
      I see some fans are mad that Rock/Roman may take place at Chamber and that it's a match that HAS TO take place at Wrestlemania. I like the idea of pumping up the other PLEs with big matches so they feel just as important. If it means that Cody can still finish his story at Wrestlemania then it works out for everyone. They already sold over 45K tickets, and that stadium can hold up to 70,000 for a concert, the Eagles stadium in Philly has a max of 67,594.



      If WWE does what they did for Survivor Series and make a smaller stage, they could try to fit in as many fans as possible, hell it's even possible this could have more fans in attendance than Wrestlemania.
      With it being EC, I could see a smaller stage since even those behind the stage could see the chamber.

      It's a stadium show with what I'd imagine is close to 70,000 fans. Basically a WM crowd. I think people want it at WM more because it's WM than anything.

      If it's Rock vs Waller or something like that, then the chamber is fine, but it's Rock vs Reigns in what is probably his last match, it has to be at WM.


      Originally posted by Bard
      Roman Reigns, reign, is near its end.

      Roman will defeat Randy Orton at the Royal Rumble... or we could get the unpredictable. The Rock costing Roman the championship at the Royal Rumble.

      The Rock is not here for the WWE Championship, he is coming for the Head of the Table.

      Now, how does this process begin? By taking away what Roman believes makes him the Head of the Table, the WWE Championship.

      Rock and Roman then have their historic contract signing in Australia. Then they meet for Night 1 WrestleMania 40 Main Event.

      So, what's going on with the WWE Championship? Randy Orton is the WWE Champion. Cody Rhodes loses the Royal Rumble, final 4 or final 3 before getting dumped by Gunther.

      Elimination Chamber match, winner faces Randy at Mania. 6 men are all set... but we get an injury. Enter Cody Rhodes.

      Cody wins, and we get Cody vs. Orton for the WWE Championship.

      Summerslam we get Cody vs. Roman II.

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      They for sure don't need the title in the match which is why I'd be fine with Cody winning it in night 1 and Rock vs Reigns in night 2. Maybe make Rock vs Reigns the Tribal Combat type thing where the winner is the head of the family and the loser is "banished" (aka retired from the ring) since that's basically how those tribal/power battles usually go.

      Would be a good way for Rock to go out. Die on your sword trying to protect your family.

      As for the EC thing, that could work too. Maybe Reigns is about to lose, Solo comes down from the back to help (since it's in the chamber so nobody's at ringside) and Rock comes out, tells Solo not to interfere, Solo doesn't, Reigns is left shocked that Solo isn't coming and then Reigns turns around into a crossroads and loses.

      Cody vs Orton at WM for the title in night 1 while Rock vs Reigns headlines night 2, both with parallel stories, Cody/Orton about legacy while Rock/Reigns about family.

      It would make the loss even more of a surprise, almost like Kofimania where fans believed by the end of the match Kofi might actually have his moment in the chamber.


      After what HHH said about Punk (if they have the chance to get CM Punk, they'll get CM Punk and work out the creative after), that could be the case with Rock too. If this is their one and final shot to get Rock vs Reigns to end his career, you do it and worry about other stuff after you agree with Rock on the deal. They'll be fine altering plans on Cody's story if it means getting their biggest drawing WM main event since Rock-Cena.
      Last edited by Majingir; 01-02-2024, 02:47 PM.

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      • SmashMan
        All Star
        • Dec 2004
        • 9748

        #1998
        Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

        So is Jinder going to keep the Muhammad Hassan gimmick or do we think that was just a one-night thing?

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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47667

          #1999
          Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

          Originally posted by SmashMan
          So is Jinder going to keep the Muhammad Hassan gimmick or do we think that was just a one-night thing?
          Definitely a one night thing.

          It just felt so forced/Vince like with everything he said and did.

          I feel the only reason they did that was to actually get people for sure booing and so he could reference Iron Sheik (who Rock probably told Jinder to reference), so they just went with the "boo me, I'm not from here!" stuff. As much as I don't care for Jinder, even he's better than the generic foreign heel.

          If anything, I wouldn't even mind Jinder traded to SD so that Indus Sher could at least be part of the 6 man division opposing the Hurt Profits, LWO, OC and so on, even if they'd just be jobbers for it.
          Last edited by Majingir; 01-02-2024, 05:06 PM.

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          • Mercury112491
            All Star
            • Mar 2007
            • 7426

            #2000
            Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

            I thought what Jinder did and said was totally fine. Didn’t feel overly “Americans are fat and stupid” generic to me. Rock on the other hand was basic as hell. Don’t get me wrong, I loved it haha. But Rocks response and getting a USA chant going made it feel corny.

            I hope we get Jinder back in a meaningful way. I know he got hate during his title reign but I love his whole looks and vibe. He just looks like a threat.


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            • The Kid 24
              It's Show Time!
              • Jan 2007
              • 14768

              #2001
              Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

              Originally posted by Majingir
              With it being EC, I could see a smaller stage since even those behind the stage could see the chamber.

              It's a stadium show with what I'd imagine is close to 70,000 fans. Basically a WM crowd. I think people want it at WM more because it's WM than anything.

              If it's Rock vs Waller or something like that, then the chamber is fine, but it's Rock vs Reigns in what is probably his last match, it has to be at WM.




              They for sure don't need the title in the match which is why I'd be fine with Cody winning it in night 1 and Rock vs Reigns in night 2. Maybe make Rock vs Reigns the Tribal Combat type thing where the winner is the head of the family and the loser is "banished" (aka retired from the ring) since that's basically how those tribal/power battles usually go.

              Would be a good way for Rock to go out. Die on your sword trying to protect your family.

              As for the EC thing, that could work too. Maybe Reigns is about to lose, Solo comes down from the back to help (since it's in the chamber so nobody's at ringside) and Rock comes out, tells Solo not to interfere, Solo doesn't, Reigns is left shocked that Solo isn't coming and then Reigns turns around into a crossroads and loses.

              Cody vs Orton at WM for the title in night 1 while Rock vs Reigns headlines night 2, both with parallel stories, Cody/Orton about legacy while Rock/Reigns about family.

              It would make the loss even more of a surprise, almost like Kofimania where fans believed by the end of the match Kofi might actually have his moment in the chamber.


              After what HHH said about Punk (if they have the chance to get CM Punk, they'll get CM Punk and work out the creative after), that could be the case with Rock too. If this is their one and final shot to get Rock vs Reigns to end his career, you do it and worry about other stuff after you agree with Rock on the deal. They'll be fine altering plans on Cody's story if it means getting their biggest drawing WM main event since Rock-Cena.
              Who's last match? Roman or The Rock?
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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47667

                #2002
                Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

                Originally posted by The Kid 24
                Who's last match? Roman or The Rock?
                Rocks.

                Though even for Reigns, once he drops the title, he could very well become even more like a Brock Lesnar part time schedule than he already is.

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                • Majingir
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 47667

                  #2003
                  Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

                  Butch upgraded from Ridge Holland to Tyler Bate!

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                  • Bard
                    YouTube: NHBard
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 7803

                    #2004
                    Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

                    Originally posted by Majingir
                    Butch upgraded from Ridge Holland to Tyler Bate!
                    Massive upgrade! Just keep them as a tag team, though. I don't think either will succeed as singles wrestlers on the main roster.

                    Ridge... needs work. I'm glad he is in NXT again.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47667

                      #2005
                      Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

                      Bloodline take out the triple threat main event.

                      Guess Reigns isn't defending at the rumble since nobody won.


                      Except Aldis tells Heyman it's a fatal 4 way!

                      Interesting way to reveal it. Aldis didn't grab the mic to announce it so we didn't get the crowd pop and Reigns going crazy in the ring. Would've made sense that way. Instead we get Heyman on the outside looking worried while the Bloodline are celebrating in the ring in the background.

                      Has Reigns even had a match for a title that involved more than 1 opponent since WM vs Edge and Bryan?

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                      • peter42O
                        MVP
                        • May 2018
                        • 1991

                        #2006
                        Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

                        What's Reigns current reign at day wise? On Wikipedia, it's listed at 1223 days and I don't see him losing the title until he beats Hogan's record of 1474 days. I full expect Reigns to retain the title at WM regardless of who his opponent ends up being.

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47667

                          #2007
                          Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

                          Originally posted by peter42O
                          What's Reigns current reign at day wise? On Wikipedia, it's listed at 1223 days and I don't see him losing the title until he beats Hogan's record of 1474 days. I full expect Reigns to retain the title at WM regardless of who his opponent ends up being.
                          Wikipedia is usually accurate.

                          It's +/- 1 off of WWEs count because of people counting days differently.

                          Reigns going into WM as champ I think has him at 1314.

                          He'll pass Pedro Morales in about 2 weeks time.

                          If he passes Hogan I think that should be it. Bruno's time was so different, it's literally impossible to replicate that for so many reasons. Even Hogans era was still before monthly PPVs or even weekly TV shows.

                          Backlund is technically 2nd by WWEs recognition, but he lost the title to Inoki who vacated it. Any other reign WWE just counts it as a less than 1 day reign, but here they just claimed Backlunds reign continued.

                          Anythings possible though. People thought Reigns would only beat Cody at WM because WWE wants him to hit 1000 and then he'll drop it. 200+ days after he hit 1000 he's still champ so we'll see.

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                          • peter42O
                            MVP
                            • May 2018
                            • 1991

                            #2008
                            Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

                            Originally posted by Majingir
                            Wikipedia is usually accurate.

                            It's +/- 1 off of WWEs count because of people counting days differently.

                            Reigns going into WM as champ I think has him at 1314.

                            He'll pass Pedro Morales in about 2 weeks time.

                            If he passes Hogan I think that should be it. Bruno's time was so different, it's literally impossible to replicate that for so many reasons. Even Hogans era was still before monthly PPVs or even weekly TV shows.

                            Backlund is technically 2nd by WWEs recognition, but he lost the title to Inoki who vacated it. Any other reign WWE just counts it as a less than 1 day reign, but here they just claimed Backlunds reign continued.

                            Anythings possible though. People thought Reigns would only beat Cody at WM because WWE wants him to hit 1000 and then he'll drop it. 200+ days after he hit 1000 he's still champ so we'll see.

                            Yeah, I don't see him ever reaching Bruno but since Hogan is just a few months away, Reigns being #2 all time would be huge and I don't see him dropping the belt before getting that #2 spot. Only way would be if he suffers a serious injury but even then, they could just keep the belt on him.


                            I thought it was setup perfectly a year ago for Cody to win but once he didn't, I fully expected Reigns to hold the title until he gets the #2 spot.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47667

                              #2009
                              Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

                              Originally posted by peter42O
                              Yeah, I don't see him ever reaching Bruno but since Hogan is just a few months away, Reigns being #2 all time would be huge and I don't see him dropping the belt before getting that #2 spot. Only way would be if he suffers a serious injury but even then, they could just keep the belt on him.


                              I thought it was setup perfectly a year ago for Cody to win but once he didn't, I fully expected Reigns to hold the title until he gets the #2 spot.
                              For the entire run, only times I legitimately thought he'd lose were:
                              -To Edge at WM (would've been 10 years to the day of when Edge retired)

                              -To McIntyre at Clash

                              -To Cody at WM

                              -To Jey at SS

                              And if he breaks Hogans number, they could still bill him as the longest reigning world champ in over 50 years which sounds more significant than just saying 2nd all time, depending how they classify Backlunds run.

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                              • peter42O
                                MVP
                                • May 2018
                                • 1991

                                #2010
                                Re: WWE RAW & Smackdown Thread

                                Originally posted by Majingir
                                For the entire run, only times I legitimately thought he'd lose were:
                                -To Edge at WM (would've been 10 years to the day of when Edge retired)

                                -To McIntyre at Clash

                                -To Cody at WM

                                -To Jey at SS

                                And if he breaks Hogans number, they could still bill him as the longest reigning world champ in over 50 years which sounds more significant than just saying 2nd all time, depending how they classify Backlunds run.

                                Agree completely.

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