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  • Jogo
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    • Oct 2015
    • 224

    #121
    Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

    Like the trade for Miami, especially with the Magic seemingly being in contention for the play-offs .. (Also: wth is Brooklyn doing in that 5th spot there wut)

    Don't know if Conley is the right fit for Detroit. Feel like they're giving up a lot of pieces for him too and it still doesn't make them a clear cut contender. Who knows ... Curious project

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    • trekfan
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      • Sep 2009
      • 5817

      #122
      Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

      Originally posted by Deuce2223
      Like all the deals, and being I am 4 hours from Portland, it would be nice to see the Trail Blazers make it back to the playoffs. I am old so I still remember the days when they were good.
      Getting the Blazers right is tough -- with the backcourt of McCollum and Lillard, they should be a solid playoff contender but their bench is god-awful. I'm hoping Mason and Papa G prop them up enough to get to the postseason, otherwise I'll have to seriously consider trading one of Lillard/McCollum and firing Stotts -- two straight years of no playoffs is with that kind of talent is untenable.

      Originally posted by Jogo
      Like the trade for Miami, especially with the Magic seemingly being in contention for the play-offs .. (Also: wth is Brooklyn doing in that 5th spot there wut)

      Don't know if Conley is the right fit for Detroit. Feel like they're giving up a lot of pieces for him too and it still doesn't make them a clear cut contender. Who knows ... Curious project
      Conley's trade was a steep price for a desperate Pistons squad ... for an SVG offense, Conley does exactly what's needed; plays defense, hits threes, passes well to the bigs. Whether that price is worth Stanley Johnson (who, admittedly, wasn't developing -- only 5.6 PPG off the bench in nearly 20 minutes a night) and a 2019 first (in a draft that has more depth than the year before) is questionable, but not paying Reggie Jackson and Johnson probably makes it worth the gamble.

      Drummond isn't going to live in Detroit forever -- his contract is up in two years and the kid can play. He's just never had a great team around him and Detroit probably overpaid for Bradley.
      Any comments are welcome.
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      • georgiafan
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        Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

        Always enjoy reading your trades, do you happen to remember what Okafor signed for ? The Warriors situation with Bell is interesting as he is ready for a starter minutes and money
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        • trekfan
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          • Sep 2009
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          #124
          Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

          Originally posted by georgiafan
          Always enjoy reading your trades, do you happen to remember what Okafor signed for ? The Warriors situation with Bell is interesting as he is ready for a starter minutes and money
          He was asking for $22M to start out, with an 8% increase each successive year, ending at around $28M.

          Since this was the Bulls, I negotiated him down to $23.75M per year over 4yrs. I felt that was fair, especially considering he's in his hometown and will be the guaranteed starter next year as Monroe will bolt in FA. He ain't cheap come 2019-20 season but he's super productive..
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          • trekfan
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            #125
            Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

            Big 2015 Draft class revisit (a breakdown of the various members of the class) heading your way in the near future. Stay tuned.
            Any comments are welcome.
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            • satam619
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              • Apr 2015
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              #126
              Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

              I think if you're planning on having Draymond Green leave GS then he should go to the Lakers. Draymond said before that it's his kid that made him decide to stay in GS so I think of Draymond did leave he'd wanna stay in Cali. Besides I'd think he'd look good in a laker jersey and he could form a nice ebig 3 with Lonzo and Paul George

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              • trekfan
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                #127
                Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

                Originally posted by satam619
                I think if you're planning on having Draymond Green leave GS then he should go to the Lakers. Draymond said before that it's his kid that made him decide to stay in GS so I think of Draymond did leave he'd wanna stay in Cali. Besides I'd think he'd look good in a laker jersey and he could form a nice ebig 3 with Lonzo and Paul George
                Possible. I think the Warriors Core 4 is definitely not here for the long-term ... I don't know who breaks it up though. Green is a candidate, but I have other ideas too where things could go ... we'll know more in the summer of 2020, definitely.
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                • trekfan
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                  #128
                  Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

                  The 2015 NBA Draft Evaluation

                  With the 2019 NBA Draft fast approaching, it's time to look back at the 2015 Draft.



                  1. Karl-Anthony Town (T'Wolves): KAT has been everything you want from a first overall pick. He’s currently averaged 19.3 PPG, with 9.7 RPG and 1.5 BPG on 48 percent shooting form the floor (and a solid 36% from deep). After recently agreeing to a lucrative contract extension, the Wolves have their centerpiece for the future.



                  Making the playoffs last year was huge for the team and its development, proving that what Thibs has made — though not perfect — is absolutely at least a playoff contender. Towns numbers are slightly down from where they were a year before, but his play is impactful on every level of the game … rumor out of Minnesota is that Thibs is mulling plugging Dieng into the starting lineup and playing KAT as a four — a move that could pay considerable dividends if Dieng can provide more than Gibson as a starter.






                  2. D'Angelo Russell (Lakers): Russell, the Laker, was traded to the Nets in 2017 and has proven to be everything they ever wanted. After an up and down two years in LA (complete with chemistry issues and shots from Magic Johnson), Russell got a new start in Brooklyn and has made the most of it, averaging 21.9 PPG (his highest career average so far), 4.6 RPG, and 6.5 APG as the lead guard and face of the franchise, scoring 50% from the field and 42% from deep. The Nets have embraced him and he them — he IS unquestionably their best player.



                  The Nets — far sooner than anyone dared imagine — are primed to be a playoff team, as they just sit above .500 and Russell (along with smart signings like Jeremy Lin, Reddick, and the return of Brook Lopez) have everything to that with that — Russell has a nice, long lucrative 5yr deal to play for and all signs point to him continuing to grow into a star player.



                  3. Jahill Okafor (76ers): Okafor's start to his NBA career wasn't glamorous; buried on the bench by Philly, Okafor finally was moved at the 2018 trade deadline to the Bulls. The marriage, though early, has proven to be fruitful. With a new start, and a young roster with no preconceptions, Okafor is averaging 13.4 PPG, 5.7 RPG, and 56% shooting as a valuable bench big, getting only 24 minutes a night.



                  Admittedly, this is not what people thought he’d be in the middle of his fourth season, but Chicago has no complaints. After signing a 3yr contract extension, Okafor is primed to break out as a starter for the Bulls (who plan to let Greg Monroe walk in free agency), and that will be the true test — can he score as well and play as well against starters? That’s the question even the Bulls don’t know.






                  4. Kristaps Porzingis (Knicks): The kid who cried at the drafting of Porzingis will forever remember his folly, as Kristaps continues to progress this season– playing with an actual PG will do that. Barely 23, Porzingis is averaging a good 17.7 PPG with 7.7 RPG, shooting a cool 47% from the floor and 32% from deep. He also bumped up his free-throw percentage to 85 percent, a five point improvement from last year.



                  The Knicks success, though, is lacking — the fit of George Hill, Caldwell-Pope, Hardaway, and Hernangomez around KP hasn’t resulted in wins, but a bad record and a likely lottery pick. The Knicks, however, aren’t panicking — they moved last year for Hill, but are likely to retool around their “Unicorn” in the summer with their cap space. The ultimate goal of a Knicks title is likely a few years years away, but with KP on the roster, the Knicks have a franchise player worth building around.






                  5. Mario Hezonja (Magic): The Magic missed in a big way with this pick, so much so that Super Mario is playing for the rival Heat now after being dumped in a trade this past deadline. Hezonja has never gotten consistent playing time, has never averaged more than 6.1 PPG (that came in his rookie year) and has had two different coaches, with wildly different systems, in his career. His averages are not even rotation player worthy and his shooting percentages are in the 30s and 20s, respectively — it has been a very difficult time for the young NBA player.



                  Orlando punted on him, but — seeing the success of Oladipo — Hezonja shouldn’t weep too much. He has a change to remake himself in Miami, a place adept at turning players people gave up on into solid starters. Hezonja is likely to get just a qualifying offer from Miami this summer, a prove it deal to see if he really wants it … if not, he’ll go down as this draft’s first bust, a title no one wants.



                  6. Willey Cauley-Stein (Kings): Durable and dependable, WCS has been a defensive stalwart for the Kings but hasn't the stats to really back it up. Like Draymond Green, WCS makes an impact on the court far more than a box score would indicate. He’s putting up 9.9 PPG, 7.5 RPG, and 1.4 BPG on 54% from the field — solid, if unimpressive numbers for a former sixth overall pick.



                  The Kings have no complaints, though — WCS has been a stabilizing influence on the organization and teammates love playing with him. He excels doing the dirty work and, though that’s not nearly as glorified in the current NBA as it once was (say, in the 80s/90s), WCS’ has earned his 3yr/$50M contract extension. As Sacramento continues to strive for the playoffs in the cutthroat West,, expect WCS to be there patrolling the paint.



                  7. Emmanuel Mudiay (Nuggets): Mudiay hasn't had an easy start to his career — heralded out of high school before ultimately deciding to play overseas for a year, Mudiay was always a project. He wasn’t one Denver was able to crack though, and so to Indiana he went — and there, for a good portion of last season, he thrived off the bench … before getting shipped off early this year to Dallas, where he played high school ball. The Mavs have faith he’s a piece they can build around — at only 22 and with 20 minutes a night, Mudiay is averaging 8.6 PPG, 4.3 APG, and 2.5 RPG on 40% from the field, 32% from deep, and 73% from the line (a vast improvement from hsi previous year).



                  Mudiay to Dallas is a combo guard, a future starter at the two, and a perfect compliment to the attacking tyle of Dennis Smith Jr. Mudiay has yet to agree to a contract extension but sources believe he’ll sign with the Mavs longterm during the summer. Until then, Dallas is playing him and letting him grow with the rest of the “Misfit Mavs” (the self-given nickname to the collection of former lottery talents on the roster).






                  8. Stanley Johnson (Pistons): Johnson never made the leap Detroit wanted and was moved this past deadline to Memphis in a package for Mike Conley. As the first draft pick of the SVG regime, Johnson has been a severe disappointment and could qualify for the bust label. Only 22, he still has time to be better, but he’s only averaging 5.9 PPG, 2.4 RPG, and 1.6 APG on 45% from the field, and an abysmal 27% from deep. His free throw shooting? 67%.



                  Numbers like that don’t inspire confidence, especially as Johnson’ never been able to shoot consistently. Memphis, a place known for valuing defense more than anything else, is a good landing spot for him but the Grizzlies have to get more out of him if they’re to rebuild their team quicker than expected. Expect Johnson to get a qualifying offer in free agency at least, but Memphis likes him enough to sign him to a long-term deal if he wants it.



                  9. Frank Kaminsky (Hornets): Thought of at the time as a headscratcher sort of pick – especially considering the bounty the Celtics were offering to get this pick – the Hornets picked Kaminsky, the stretch-big who hasn't exactly lit up the league but has proved to be valuable to the pace-and-space Hornets. Frank the Tank was named the starter at the 4 this year for Charlotte and has helped the team to a good record — 13.9 PPG, 4.5 RPG, and 2.0 APG are nothing to sneeze at for a guy who gets only 29 minutes a night. His offense — especially his deep shooting (just south of 33%) — has been the secret sauce that finally unleashed the Hornets everyone saw a glimpse of in that random Jeremy Lin year.



                  Just 25, Kamisky’s best years are ahead of him, though his development likely won’t see any huge jumps. His play — and the play of the rest of the team — is hugely important as the Hornets bid to keep Kemba Walker’s services in the summer. Will Kemba return to Charlotte? The Hornets don’t know, but were unwilling to trade him (and ruin a good season) for fear of losing him for nothing. If Kamisky and the rest of the Hornets continue to play well, Kemba will have a very tough decision to make come the summer.



                  10. Justise Winslow (Heat): In some circles, Justice Winslow was considered the superior to Stanley Johnson at the time of the draft, and that’s proven to be true. Winslow is averaged 12.5 PPG. 4.2 RPG, and 3.0 APG while shooting 41% from the field and 30% from deep. Not stellar numbers by any means, but Winslow’s defense and versatility have been a boon for the struggling Heat.



                  Miami knows that Winslow is a key piece of their future — at only 22, his best years are surely ahead of him and the Heat are preparing to dismantle the roster in the summer. With solid deals on young vets like Dion Waiters and older vets like James Johnson, Miami can build around Winslow (and their other young talent). It’s dark now in Miami, but it shouldn’t be for long.



                  11. Myles Turner (Pacers): The stretch-five everyone was a fan of in the 2015 draft, Myles Turner has grown every year he's been in the league, showing marked improvement across the board this season. He’s averaging 14.8 PPG, 8.4 RPG, and 2.1 BPG on 52% from the field and 37% from deep. Turner is the modern center and, at only 22, his ceiling is still years away.



                  He’s a nightly contributor and though his stats don’t blow you away, he’s worth the extension he’s signed without a doubt. Indiana wouldn’t be leading the East and looking at a second consecutive (and shocking) 50 win season without Turner’s play as the star big in the middle and on the perimeter.



                  12. Trey Lyles (Jazz): Lyles only managed to get unburied from the bench last year when he was traded to Nuggets from Utah … and even then, his numbers have been suppressed. The former Wildcat had high expectations as a modern stretch-four put on him and has yet to even sniff those lofty highs — averaging only 8.3 PPG, 3.4 RPG, and 2.7 APG on 40% shooting and 36% from deep, the 23-year-old is only now showing signs of life.



                  Denver is high on him and the Nuggets — wary of the huge cap hit Paul Millsap would incur next summer (he has a TO for $30M) — is looking to slot Lyles in as the future starter at the four if they decide to move on from Millsap.



                  13. Devon Booker (Suns): The Suns unintentionally grabbed a potential star player here, as Devon Booker is a lights-out-shooter and is a perfect fit as their SG. Booker is averaging 19.1. PPG, with 2.9 RPG and 5.2 APG on 46% shooting and 38% from deep (and 86% from the line). His recent injury (removing him for the next 6-8 weeks from the lineup) is unfortunate, but that doesn’t have the Suns concerned.



                  What does have them concerned is Booker’s unhappiness with the way the front office and the organization have failed to do anything meaningful in his years there. Phoenix has consistently misfired on free agent signings and trades; Booker has responded by refusing any contract extension talk until the summer. There is a growing fear in Phoenix that their star SG is thinking of taking the qualifying offer, which would make him an unrestricted free agent in the summer of 2020 — a doomsday scenario for the Suns.






                  14. Cameron Payne (Thunder): After being just “Russell Westbrook's Backup” for the first two years of his career, Payne finally got a chance to start last season and proved himself capable, if not spectacular — he averaged 13.8 PPG and 5.2 APG on 47% shooting and 45% from deep. The only problem is he only did that for 21 games, before injuries robbed him of yet another season.



                  The book on Payne is simple: he’s an injury prone guard who plays average defense. When he can stay on the floor, he can perform, but availability has been an issue for him his entire career. It is widely expected that Chicago will cut him in the offseason as they move forward with Kris Dunn as their PG of the future, leaving Payne’s fate in the air — just 24, he has enough time to rebuild his career and excel on some team. The question is, which one?



                  15. Kelly Oubre Jr. (Wizards): Oubre has been a virtual enigma on the court and his fullest potential hasn't been seen likely. He is averaging 7.2 PPG and 2.8 RPG on 42% shooting, 37% from deep during his 21 minutes a night. His play time has largely been consistent his last two years … and so has his play. The Wizards, though believe — only 23, Oubre still has time to develop into a solid starter and (perhaps) more.



                  Washington is taking that bet, as they signed him to 4yr/$49M deal. It’s a lot of money to invest in a player who has yet to crack double-digits in scoring, but the Wizards are betting Oubre will develop … or at least fetch a decent amount of help in a possible summer trade. With the way their season is going (currently just out of the playoffs), the Wizards may be prepping for major roster changes come summertime.



                  16. Terry Rozier (Celtics): Rozier has been a disappointment for the Celtics and his career shooting percentage is 36. From deep? 32%. Rozier has never been an offense threat and, with the depth the Celtics now possess, he’s not a constant part of their rotation either. Despite his defensive chops, Boston can’t seem to find a way to use him well.



                  The 24-year-old is rumored to be let go in the summer as Boston looks to retool and figure out what happened to their season, which has underwhelmed massively to the point that fans are calling for head of Brad Stevens, the golden boy of Boston.



                  17. Rashad Vaughn (Bucks): Vaughn has spent far more time mired on the Bucks bench than on the court and that's a shame considering how fluid he looks shooting the ball. Vaughn has fallen completely out of the Bucks rotation and attempts to trade him at the deadline resulted in silence — Milwaukee will be letting him walk in the summer rather than re-sign him, another former draft pick that didn’t pan out.



                  Despite Vaughn’s offensive pedigree, he’s never been able to stay in the rotation and, at only 22, he’s worth a long look from teams that could use a young shooter who may develop. His time in Milwaukee is over come the summer, but his career can still be something if he lands in a good spot.






                  18. Sam Dekker (Rockets): Another case of a buried player, Dekker hasn't had much of a career to speak of as he's held more towels than basketballs at this point. Even after being traded to the Clippers last season, Dekker only see 15 minutes a night and puts up unimpressive numbers: 4.5 PPG, 2.7 RPG on 42% shooting and 28% from deep. Dekker has had a steep drop off from last season, in terms of shooting percentage, and the Clippers — as a team — have done the same.



                  Dekker's biggest value is how cheap he is – he signed a 2yr/$13M extension – and how undemanding he is on the court. A good teammate, he isn't the Chandler Parsons clone many Rockets fans hoped he was and doesn’t seem to possess any one outstanding skill … he’s a bench player, plain and simple, and is getting paid like one. At just 24, he may develop late (the Clippers hope for a Kyle Korver like arc to his career) but the fact remains he’s underwhelming in nearly every facet of the game, but inoffensively so — a good complement to the mega-stars of Griffin and Jordan.






                  19. Jerian Grant (Knicks): Grant never got much run in New York, was traded to Chicago, and saw significant time as the starter last season after Payne went down — he did solidly, averaging 11.3 PPG and 5.4 APG — but Chicago let walk in the offseason. A free man, he signed as a backup with Portland, and saw his numbers drop off dramatically as a bench player.



                  Portland, unsatisfied with his play, traded for Frank Mason to replace him and Grant is expected to be let go again during the summer. A player with decent upside, it appears Grant will never be more than a fringe rotaton player —at 26, he’s likely to never develop beyond that. A disappointment, Grant is likely a surefire bust in this draft.






                  20. Delon Wright (Raptors): Wright has been solid off the bench for the Raptors, playing a sixth-man role on a team that could use a jolt of offense from its bench. He’s averaging 6.7 PPG, with 2.4 RPG and 3.4 APG on a very efficient 44% from the floor and 36% from deep. He’s not going to blow your doors off with his numbers, but he fits very well into what the Raptors are doing.



                  At 26, he’s found a solid role on a contending team and agreed to a two-year contract extension for a team-friendly number; Wright isn’t going to ever be confused as a draft steal, but for what the Raptors want, he’s perfect.






                  21. Justin Anderson (Mavericks): The Mavericks in general haven't had an easy time of it the last few years and Justin Anderson was given up on fast in Dallas — they shipped him off in a package for Nerlens Noel and Anderson has been less than good in Philly. Averaging 7.3 PPG, 2.9 RPG, and shooting 38% from the field (with a horrible 26% from deep), Anderson gets minutes for his defense and not his shooting.



                  Even then, Philly has been decreasing his minutes over the last few weeks and Anderson looks to be let go by Phllly in the summer to free up cap space. At 25, he might be what he is at this point, but still worthy a look for some squads who need an infusion of youth.






                  22. Bobby Portis (Bulls): Portis came into the league and immediately made an impact as a bench player and that impact has continued to be felt. This season Portis received sixth-man minutes and put up a decent stat line of 9.7 PPG, with 6.4 RPG on 46% shooting and 31% from deep. Portis isn’t the future at the four for the Bulls, as they possess Markkan (The Finnisher) and Ruffin (the 3rd overall pick from 2018).



                  What Portis is — like many on the Bulls — is trade bait. Portis is a solid sixth-man big off the bench and, with his recent contract extension of 3yrs/$19M, he’s on one of the most reasonable deals in the league. Chicago shopped him at the deadline but didn’t find a deal they liked — expect the Bulls to shop him heavily in the summer.






                  23. Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (Nets): The Nets made this pick and, like many of the Nets picks, it was initially viewed skeptically: but time has revealed that the Nets, in this instance, got a solid player. Jefferson has been a defensive force on the floor, though his stats certainly won't impress the analytic crowd: averaging only 6.5 PPG, with 5.6 RPG, 1.9 APG, and 1.2 SPG 46% shooting from the field (on limited shots, mind you) and a hard-to-look-at 15% from deep. Jefferson tends to live off manic, chaos plays.



                  He’s not a starter due to his poor offensive capabilities, but as a defensive stopper off the bench, he’s basically a diet Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. His play this season has been key to the Nets staying in the playoff race and his value to Brooklyn was enough to for them to agree to a 2yr/$17M contract extension — whether RHJ is still a Net at the end of that contract is debatable, but the Nets are pleased with the progress he’s made.



                  24. Tysus Jones (Wolves): Jones hasn’t been horrible as a guard off the bench for the T’Wolves, but the former Duke Blue Devil hasn’t seen much starting time: averaging only 16 minutes a night, he’s putting up 5.8 PPG and 4.2 APG on 49% from the field and 40% from deep. His defense leaves a little be desired, but he’s earned enough trust from Coach Thibs to get a 2yr/$18M extension.



                  His numbers don't jump out at you, but given more play time, the 22 year old will likely grow by leaps and bounds. Expect Jones to be the starter next season as the Wolves look to trade Jeff Teague and his expensive $19M cap hit during the summer.



                  25. Jarell Martin (Grizzlies): Martin barely saw any playing time with the Grizzlies and Memphis cut bait with him during the summer of 2017. The 24-year-old big man is, at this point, a fringe rotation player and he hasn’t been picked up by any team. Martin is a clear bust in this draft, but considering how low he was taken, it was never expected that he’d be more than a rotation player anyway.






                  26. Nikola Miluntinov (Spurs): Another player who gets an “Incomplete”, this one due to the fact that he still hasn't arrived in the NBA, continuing to play overseas. His contract runs out after this season, so perhaps he shows up in 2019, but all signs point to him continuing to play overseas. As such, this might be the rare Spurs mistake during the draft.






                  27. Larry Nance, Jr. (Lakers): This was a reach of a pick to begin with and hasn’t exactly vindicated the previous Lakers regime. Now 27, Nance has show flashes of abilities to be a 4 in the modern NBA: the Lakers use a battery of him and Kyle Kuzma at the PF position and Nance, playing a solid 25 minutes a night, is putting up career bests of 8.0 PPG, 7.0 RPG, and is shooting a good 50% from the field and a barely decent 30% from deep.



                  Nance has been a stable influence on the Lakers and LA, impressed with his growth this year (playing with Paul George and Marc Gasol probably helps), gave him a 3yr/$40M extension. Is he worth that? Maybe. Is he going to finish out that contract in Lakers gold? Probably not.



                  28. R. J. Hunter (Celtics): Where is RJ Hunter? Gone. Drafted from Georgie State, Hunter spent one year with the Celtics before getting cut. He ended up with the Bulls, but couldn’t find his way out of the D-League. They cut bait with him and he ended up with the Nets D=League team … where he, once more, found himself cut after a time. Hunter is a bust, plain and simple, and isn’t even in the NBA at the young age of just 25.






                  29. Chris McCullough (Nets): McCullough could never find the floor for the Nets and was traded to the Wizards for peanuts … and promptly sat at the end of the bench. McCollough was traded again at the 2019 trade deadline, this time to Boston, and the Celtics feel he can be a solid contributor off the bench if he develops. On his third team before the end of his rookie contract and at only 24, McCullough was granted a 2yr/$3M extension by the Celtics to prove his worth. Judging by his past history, Boston probably got a bench warmer.






                  30. Kevin Looney (Warriors): He's been sitting patiently on the bench for years, but Looney is finally getting a chance to play some, admittedly only in garbage time. His stats don’t project him to be anything more than a solid rotation player, but with the Warriors likely to lose Jordan Bell this summer (due to disagreements about playing time) and with Draymond Green up for a contract extension, else he’ll become a free agent in 2020, Looney is cheap labor with decent upside — at only 23, he still has time to develop into more than a rotation piece.

                  Last edited by trekfan; 12-16-2017, 11:56 AM.
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                  • trekfan
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                    #129
                    Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

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                    • studbucket
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                      Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

                      The Suns have 4/5 of the MIP candidates? What's up with that?
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                      • trekfan
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                        #131
                        Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

                        Originally posted by studbucket
                        The Suns have 4/5 of the MIP candidates? What's up with that?
                        The Suns were so spectacularly bad last year (and in the last few years) that positive development of their youth is seen as a miracle? I can see why Ulis and Jackson are on the list -- both got promoted to full-time starters and don't have to share as many minutes as they did the year before.

                        I don't know why Booker and Knight are on there. Booker isn't THAT much better and Knight is productive again (good), but is still just a good rotation guy/sixth man ... I guess it's just out of pity he's there at all -- dude's had a hard last few seasons.
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                        • georgiafan
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                          #132
                          Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

                          Great write up on the draft


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                          • georgiafan
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                            #133
                            Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

                            Great write up on the draft


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                            • trekfan
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                              • Sep 2009
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                              #134
                              Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story




                              Ch. 35


                              The All-Star break came and went, our first game back against the Heat, which we won 127-109 after a back and forth affair in the first three quarters — in the fourth, we pulled away, but it was a closer game than I sure as hell wanted. We had a back-to-back — straight from Miami to San Antonio, to play against the Spurs and our former teammate, the Manimal.




                              We were 12 wins away from getting 50-wins, notching back-to-back seasons with at least 50 for the first time since the 94-95/95-96 seasons. It wasn’t something the Pacers had done in over 20 years … and it was something I wanted. It was something that we all wanted. But in our way that night, was the Spurs — the model NBA franchise, but a team that was clearly showing its age. Parker and Gasol were creaky, Aldridge was getting there, and Ginobli was in his last season. Leonard was having a down year, still not quite recovered from the injury he suffered the year before.


                              But the Spurs weren’t about to lay down for us — they were going to come out and compete. And we had to as well — a back-to-back wasn’t easy. The first quarter, with the starters in, was an even affair, lots of defense, lots of steals, and lots of grinding — points were hard to come by. But when the subs came in, that’s when our bench, the Pitcrew, struck. Lance dominated his Spurs counterpart.




                              In the second, we continued to battle — Aldridge got hot and he would remain so all game, but he was the only Spur scoring consistently. Everyone else was getting swarmed by our defense, led by none other than Harrison Barnes. HB didn’t have a statistically impressive game, but this was one of those matchups that he wasn’t going to be asked to score a lot, he was going to be deployed as a defensive ace.


                              And he lived up to that billing.




                              At the half, Lance was our leading scorer — that was just how balanced an attack we had. He was a spitfire out there and both teams were playing hard.




                              In the third, it was Myles Turner time. We had managed to open up a 12 point lead, but the Spurs — led by Aldridge, who was fire in the second half (scoring 20 of his 26 points there) — battled back, narrowing the gap to only four points. We were struggling, the Spurs were doubling me, and they weren’t letting us get inside on the pick and roll. We needed to hit some shots — MT hit those shots. He only got one triple to go in, but he was living from mid-range, much to the Spurs frustration.


                              With Turner hot, I just fed him the ball and the ball zipped around, passes finding guys in the right spot. Jabari put on a show from the post, Victor got hot late, and HB utterly demolished the Spurs on a few key possessions.




                              The fourth came around and I let loose — there was no way I was going to let the Spurs climb back in and, with HB playing stifling defense on Leonard, the Spurs didn’t have enough to come back. We walked out of there with a win and a good defensive performance after the All-Star Break.



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                              • trekfan
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                                • Sep 2009
                                • 5817

                                #135
                                Re: You Don't Know Jack: A Pacers Story

                                AUTHOR'S NOTE:

                                Just an FYI. Been experimenting with expansion in MyLeague and, heads up -- you need to have the expansion team designs selected BEFORE the offseason starts. Making the expansion team design in-season won't activate the expansion draft or anything, it will be listed as a "Pending Expansion" and nothing will happen.

                                That is until you get to the offseason and the league meetings -- that's where you'll be asked to approve of the new expansion teams and, once that's done, you'll go into League Realignment.

                                I assumed that if I created the expansion team in the offseason, everything would kick in, but it needs to be done before the offseason so it can be approved at the League Meetings, otherwise nothing will happen.
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