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  • SchruteFarms
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    • Dec 2008
    • 87

    #16
    Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

    Originally posted by K-train
    It wouldn't be a good sell for some of the programs. Wouldn't be good for QB's and WR's.
    That's certainly true, but it may attract RB's and Lineman who want to move forward instead of retreat. I'm not saying it's the perfect offense. I'm asking if we will see more use of it.

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    • K-train
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      • Oct 2005
      • 253

      #17
      Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

      Originally posted by Cebby
      Georgia Tech plays in the ACC. That's like saying in 2007 "I wonder what Hawaii fans think of the "throw the ball 90% of the time" offense."

      Being the ACC champion means absolutely nothing.

      Statistically, the ACC champion is the worst performing champion in BCS bowls. It's significantly worse than the other 5 BCS conferences, the MWC, and the WAC, and the CUSA, MAC, and Sunbelt at least have no data as opposed to the 2-9 record of the ACC.
      I'm a Miami fan, and I agree with this man.
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      • SchruteFarms
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        • Dec 2008
        • 87

        #18
        Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

        But passing 90% of the time appeals to younger fans more than running 90% would. So I'm sure Hawaii fans loved that offense because it appeals to what they want passing. Georgia Tech fans may not like the 90% running offense because, like the earlier poster said, "it's stale".

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        • J0nnD0ugh
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 16602

          #19
          Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

          Copying as if a trend sweeping the NCAA? No

          Copying, as if other schools struggling to make headway taking it up? Yeah, it could happen.

          But its more important someone comes up w/a defense to sweep the nation. I think D has gotten less innovative.
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          • EHSheadhunter09
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            • Jun 2008
            • 155

            #20
            Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

            Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
            I think D has gotten less innovative.
            MUSCHAMP begs to differ with you... In the NFL maybe, a majority of them run the same 3-4... To the casual fan the NCAA defenses may same bland and dry but tons of teams have different wrinkles and packages all based on personnel... No defense is going to be as innovative as offense because defense is the reactionary side of the ball...

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            • Maxattax3
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 2265

              #21
              Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

              Nickel base is a creative defense? Its almost a no-brainer in the pass happy Big12...

              As far as the topic goes... I think it takes a special group of coaches to run that system effectively at a high level. What do I know though... haha
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              • pistoldill
                Pro
                • Nov 2004
                • 762

                #22
                Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

                The standard option never should have gone away. The old claim was that you couldn't win with it in the new age of college football.

                Well...it seems to be winning just fine.
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                Originally posted by Cebby
                So the ACC should work around FSU having the worst academic scandal in recent history? Maybe FSU should stop cheating, fighting, packing gats, and act like normal people.

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                • Rocky
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 6896

                  #23
                  Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

                  Originally posted by BigDofBA
                  LOL. If I'm a top recruit, I definitely want to goto a school that runs the wishbone and has no aspirations of playing for championships. NOT!

                  To answer your question, Ga. Tech does not have top athletes. They have good athletes and are very well coached for the system their coaching staff runs.

                  Ga. Tech will never win a championship running that offense.
                  Oklahoma, Georgia, Nebraska, Auburn?

                  All won national championships running the triple option.

                  Texas and Florida won championships recently running the spread option, which isn't too far off from Paul Johnson's spread wing T option.
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                  • Shadowvector
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                    • Sep 2005
                    • 3

                    #24
                    Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

                    Originally posted by SchruteFarms
                    "I find the spread entertaining and the wishbone boring and stale."


                    Thanks for the honest answer. That's why I think many coaches and AD's will hesitate to implement this scheme and hire coaches who do. Because of backlash from young fans. I wonder what students at Georgia Tech think of the offense.
                    As a GT student I find the offense very boring and stale. All we ever do is rack up yards and score touchdowns. its also disappointing that we only have 9 passes over 50+ yards this season. I hope we get rid of PJ after this season since we will never be able to compete in big-time college football using this high school offense.

                    In fact not only will we not be able to recruit blue-chip pro-style quarterbacks and wide receivers, we also wont be able to recruit blue-chip punters and kickers because we rarely kick or punt. We also wont be able to recruit blue-chip running backs, offensive linemen, defensive backs, and tight ends either because they would practice for a system that is not utilized by NFL teams.

                    PJ will drive burden our program with trophies and accolades for years to come with his high school offense if we dont get rid of him soon.

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                    • MBFranchise
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                      • May 2009
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                      #25
                      Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

                      Originally posted by Shadowvector
                      As a GT student I find the offense very boring and stale. All we ever do is rack up yards and score touchdowns. its also disappointing that we only have 9 passes over 50+ yards this season. I hope we get rid of PJ after this season since we will never be able to compete in big-time college football using this high school offense.

                      In fact not only will we not be able to recruit blue-chip pro-style quarterbacks and wide receivers, we also wont be able to recruit blue-chip punters and kickers because we rarely kick or punt. We also wont be able to recruit blue-chip running backs, offensive linemen, defensive backs, and tight ends either because they would practice for a system that is not utilized by NFL teams.

                      PJ will drive burden our program with trophies and accolades for years to come with his high school offense if we dont get rid of him soon.
                      haha, this made me laugh.

                      I don't understand the "boring and stale" argument. I watch GT whenever I can because it is one of the most exciting and unique offenses in college football these days.
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                      • SchruteFarms
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 87

                        #26
                        Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

                        Originally posted by Shadowvector
                        As a GT student I find the offense very boring and stale. All we ever do is rack up yards and score touchdowns. its also disappointing that we only have 9 passes over 50+ yards this season. I hope we get rid of PJ after this season since we will never be able to compete in big-time college football using this high school offense.

                        In fact not only will we not be able to recruit blue-chip pro-style quarterbacks and wide receivers, we also wont be able to recruit blue-chip punters and kickers because we rarely kick or punt. We also wont be able to recruit blue-chip running backs, offensive linemen, defensive backs, and tight ends either because they would practice for a system that is not utilized by NFL teams.

                        PJ will drive burden our program with trophies and accolades for years to come with his high school offense if we dont get rid of him soon.
                        Great post

                        Thanks for the responses. It will be interesting to see if more teams do implement it. It may take teams hiring Navy and Georgia Tech assistants first. But if I'm E. Michigan or New Mexico why not try it because whatever they are doing right now isn't working.

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                        • SchruteFarms
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                          • Dec 2008
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                          #27
                          Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

                          Originally posted by MBFranchise
                          haha, this made me laugh.

                          I don't understand the "boring and stale" argument. I watch GT whenever I can because it is one of the most exciting and unique offenses in college football these days.
                          I love watching it to. I wish the Illini could have used it some, not exclusively, but some with Juice because he would have been terrific in it.

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                          • Watson
                            Burrow Club
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27013

                            #28
                            Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

                            I agree with MB. The Flexbone is just as exciting to me as UF's spread.

                            In fact, I find it more exciting. Florida's bread and butter is on speed and talent, while GT still does not yet have the correct players, but is still winning on technique. With that beign said, JN is a total monster
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                            • Herbsinator
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 4573

                              #29
                              Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

                              The recruiting argument doesn't make sense. Look at Navy...they have inferior talent, but they can still compete against better teams because of their offense. You don't need a stud NFL caliber QB to run that offense. You only need a QB that can run and throw the deep ball occasionally.

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                              • da ThRONe
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                                • Mar 2009
                                • 8528

                                #30
                                Re: Will teams start copying Ga. Tech & Navy

                                Yeah If you are one of the few schools who has a "QB run friendly" offense you will not sign the best Pro-Style or Dual threat QB. But you will have a whole nation of option QB to yourself. Not every high school athlete is thinking about the NFL. Some would just like to farther their football career. And if their good enough they can play another pos. in the pros.
                                Last edited by da ThRONe; 11-22-2009, 12:56 PM.
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