Mike Leach fired

[Solidice]

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ESPN gave Leach an interview during the Rose Bowl. Rece Davis talked to him for a few minutes.

was it the same one that was recorded yesterday? where he talked about how Adam is lazy and felt entitled because of his dad, and that Craig James kept bothering the staff and administration about Adam's playing time.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Not sure if someone already posted this but some teammates are now defending James

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf,211273

Well, we have players saying one thing, staff saying the opposite. I really don't know how anyone can take sides on this. I probably won't be able to say one way or the other until a court trial. It really seems like people who don't like each other doing things to get under the other's skin.

[Pokes]

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Not sure if someone already posted this but some teammates are now defending James

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf,211273

Those are guys who barely play, and both Charbonnets are Punk B's I went to HS with Daniel and I'm now surprised him and his brother and leaping into the media.

[mmorg]

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Well, we have players saying one thing, staff saying the opposite. I really don't know how anyone can take sides on this. I probably won't be able to say one way or the other until a court trial. It really seems like people who don't like each other doing things to get under the other's skin.

You have three players saying one thing and then coaches, staff, trainers, and doctors saying another. Let's see who I trust hmmmm.

[Sting]

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was it the same one that was recorded yesterday? where he talked about how Adam is lazy and felt entitled because of his dad, and that Craig James kept bothering the staff and administration about Adam's playing time.

No, this was live as far as I know. Not 100% sure though.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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You have three players saying one thing and then coaches, staff, trainers, and doctors saying another. Let's see who I trust hmmmm.

Motive.

[mmorg]

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Motive.

Yes, three players who never play and have literally nothing to lose don't have a motive. Okie dokie.

It's already been proven that the majority Adam James' claims have been false. A Doctor isn't going to risk losing his license for a football program. Sorry bro.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Yes, three players who never play and have literally nothing to lose don't have a motive. Okie dokie.

It's already been proven that the majority Adam James' claims have been false. A Doctor isn't going to risk losing his license for a football program. Sorry bro.

Uhh....doctors risk their license all the time supplying illegal performance enhancing drugs to athletes all the time. Besides, the doc said what Leach did didn't hurt James. He didn't speak on why Leach ordered what he did.


I don't trust anyone's motive yet. You got a WR's coach talking like James was a cancer, then the next day saying there's no ill will.

You could very well be right. But if you are, it is a because of assumptions of guilt/innocence. Not on any established fact.

[mmorg]

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Uhh....doctors risk their license all the time supplying illegal performance enhancing drugs to athletes all the time. Besides, the doc said what Leach did didn't hurt James. He didn't speak on why Leach ordered what he did.


I don't trust anyone's motive yet. You got a WR's coach talking like James was a cancer, then the next day saying there's no ill will.

You could very well be right. But if you are, it is a because of assumptions of guilt/innocence. Not on any established fact.

He changed his opinions once Leach got fired. He's trying to keep his job now.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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He changed his opinions once Leach got fired. He's trying to keep his job now.

Which goes to motive, dude. If he doesn't support Leach Monday, would he have a job? If he doesn't support James Thursday, does he have a job?

I need more knowledge of Leach's past history in dealing w/injuries. I need to know more about his dealings w/James. I need to know why he told James to do what he did. I haven't gotten full answers to those questions. I need context.

[Lintyfresh85]

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Tell me what Houston's offensive coordinator has to gain by lying about James being lazy? What's his 'motive' as you claim.

Absolutely nothing.

[Sting]

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Rece Davis asked him why he put Adam in the shed. Leach said he didn't make him get in the shed, he said he told the trainer to get him to a dark place/room and the shed was close and the shed has their ice machine in it where they practice.(crazy run-on sentence i know) People were right outside according to Leach.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Tell me what Houston's offensive coordinator has to gain by lying about James being lazy? What's his 'motive' as you claim.

Absolutely nothing.

Nothing. He also wasn't there. So his testimony goes to nothing but character. Not the incident. It provides some background. It lets us know there has been friction before between he & the staff. It tells us nothing about why Leach ordered James into the garage.

We need the answer to these questions: Was James sent to the garage because Leach was mad James was out w/a concussion? Or because the guy was late & used his concussion as an excuse? Do players w/concussions usually get isolated w/medical personel during practice time?

[RAZRr1275]

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Nothing. He also wasn't there. So his testimony goes to nothing but character. Not the incident. It provides some background. It lets us know there has been friction before between he & the staff. It tells us nothing about why Leach ordered James into the garage.

We need the answer to these questions: Was James sent to the garage because Leach was mad James was out w/a concussion? Or because the guy was late & used his concussion as an excuse? Do players w/concussions usually get isolated w/medical personel during practice time?

He wasn't isolated. Trainers were everywhere. Leach wasn't mad. He likes keeping injured players close to the team and at practice. James showed up late. That's inexcusable for any player. That deserves discipline. And even if he was isolated no one rails on teachers for putting their kid in time out. There's no reason james should be treated differently.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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He wasn't isolated. Trainers were everywhere. Leach wasn't mad. He likes keeping injured players close to the team and at practice. James showed up late. That's inexcusable for any player. That deserves discipline. And even if he was isolated no one rails on teachers for putting their kid in time out. There's no reason james should be treated differently.

I saw that. Along w/the fact that his statement came from Leach's reps. Along w/the fact that he refuses to comment now. According to the report I read, at no point does the trainer say he was instructed to care for James' needs. But he does make of point of saying James was late & walking lazy.

So when was the statement made? Before/after Leach's firing? & what were the trainer's orders? Watch after him? Observe him? Or make sure he keeps his *bleep* in there the entire practice? Leach says he was looking after him medically. James says he was put under guard.

Again, I'm not supporting James. I'm not supporting Leach. And I don't see how anyone could do so as of yet. There are just too many unanswered questions.