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  • DonkeyJote
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    • Jul 2003
    • 9181

    #1741
    Why are you guys acting like Mizzou will be totally irrelevant in the SEC? They'd be in a division with Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas, and Miss St. Outside of Bama/LSU, is there a program in that group that is heads and shoulders above Mizzou? And being in a better conference and getting more money should help you get better athletes to your school. I don't see the new SEC West as being significantly tougher than the Big 12

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    • TDenverFan
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      • Jan 2011
      • 3457

      #1742
      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

      Originally posted by XBox_Roughneck
      Mountain West Conference meeting with Conference USA next week to discuss a potential 22/24 team football conference for the other guys.




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      Just one BCS bid for a non-BCS school, but the BEST non-BCS team.

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      I think MWC Champ vs CUSA Champ for a BCS bid would make more sense, personally.
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      • Jr.
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        • Feb 2003
        • 19171

        #1743
        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

        Originally posted by DonkeyJote
        Why are you guys acting like Mizzou will be totally irrelevant in the SEC? They'd be in a division with Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas, and Miss St. Outside of Bama/LSU, is there a program in that group that is heads and shoulders above Mizzou? And being in a better conference and getting more money should help you get better athletes to your school. I don't see the new SEC West as being significantly tougher than the Big 12

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        I think people see Mizzou as more of a recent "flash in the pan" program than one with true staying power. I don't think they would compete for too many division titles in that SEC West, but I don't see them being the next Vandy/Kentucky/Ole Miss either.

        Basically, I see them being the same thing they have been in the Big 12, a middle of the conference team with the possibility of competing for a conference title every once in a while.
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        • DonkeyJote
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 9181

          #1744
          Originally posted by Baughn3
          I think people see Mizzou as more of a recent "flash in the pan" program than one with true staying power. I don't think they would compete for too many division titles in that SEC West, but I don't see them being the next Vandy/Kentucky/Ole Miss either.

          Basically, I see them being the same thing they have been in the Big 12, a middle of the conference team with the possibility of competing for a conference title every once in a while.
          That's about how I see it. I think they'll be in a similar spot as South Carolina or Arkansas. Competitive, and every few years, they are in the running for an SEC title game. I also think that, if Auburn moves to the east, the West is the easier division.

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          • Aggies67
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            • Jun 2011
            • 918

            #1745
            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

            Originally posted by DonkeyJote
            Why are you guys acting like Mizzou will be totally irrelevant in the SEC? They'd be in a division with Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas, and Miss St. Outside of Bama/LSU, is there a program in that group that is heads and shoulders above Mizzou? And being in a better conference and getting more money should help you get better athletes to your school. I don't see the new SEC West as being significantly tougher than the Big 12

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            I think Mizzou and Texas A&M would always be very competitive with each other.

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            • Perfect Zero
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              • Jun 2005
              • 4012

              #1746
              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows



              This is more for humor than anything. It talks about the faces of re-alignment and what they are thinking about it. Best ones are Turner Gil and the Pride of Oklahoma Marching Band
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              • Bondgirl0072
                Banned
                • Jul 2010
                • 1138

                #1747
                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                Originally posted by acts238shaun

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                • Redacted01
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 10316

                  #1748
                  Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                  Originally posted by TDenverFan
                  I think MWC Champ vs CUSA Champ for a BCS bid would make more sense, personally.
                  Too many games. I think they are trying to avoid playing a semi-final first.

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                  • TMJOHNS18
                    MVP
                    • May 2011
                    • 2586

                    #1749
                    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                    Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                    That's about how I see it. I think they'll be in a similar spot as South Carolina or Arkansas. Competitive, and every few years, they are in the running for an SEC title game. I also think that, if Auburn moves to the east, the West is the easier division.

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                    Err.... Arkansas and South Carolina not only have 0 SEC titles but also only I think 4 appearances (USC 1 and Ark I think 3). So saying they make a run every few years, that really must be a big few years between. Of course, USC likes to win early and self destruct later on.

                    The SEC is a top heavy league that has a real good medium and then the very low (Vandy more than often). I don't think the SEC would add Mizzou, because I honestly would seen them in the Vandy/Ole Miss category (has some good years) than the South Carolina/Arkansas area (always a game or two away from the top).

                    You have LSU, Bama and UF usually around the top. Then when they faulter, teams like UGA, Arky, USC, AU who can jump in when one falters or they are already good enough to run with the top, while Miss St and UT are a few pieces away these days. Then you have the UK, Ole Miss, Vandy who can have some decent years, but can't sustain it.

                    Granted, the only team I'd like to see added to the SEC would be VT or UNC. If A&M joins I'd like to see VT in the East because I think they'd fit well. Only reason I say UNC is because I know UF/UGA/USC/UK don't want any other teams to join from their states and UNC has a potential to fit in.

                    I'd really like the SEC to keep it's "geographic" name, cause it's one of the only conferences that have a name that makes sense, unlike the two backward BIG's and now the Big East with TCU.
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                    • Maxattax3
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 2265

                      #1750
                      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                      So... A&M has been working on the move to the SEC for 1.5 years?

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                      • superjames1992
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                        • Jun 2007
                        • 31382

                        #1751
                        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                        Slive was at the LSU game tonight in Morgantown. Make of that what you will. It probably means nothing, but who knows?
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                        • Bondgirl0072
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                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1138

                          #1752
                          Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                          Originally posted by superjames1992
                          Slive was at the LSU game tonight in Morgantown. Make of that what you will. It probably means nothing, but who knows?
                          Interesting. We will have to wait and see what this means.

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                          • Cusefan
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 9820

                            #1753
                            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                            Originally posted by superjames1992
                            Slive was at the LSU game tonight in Morgantown. Make of that what you will. It probably means nothing, but who knows?
                            I would assume he was there to watch the Game of the Week, mosh Commissioners will do that.
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                            • He1nousOne1
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                              • Jun 2011
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                              #1754
                              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                              Originally posted by TMJOHNS18
                              Err.... Arkansas and South Carolina not only have 0 SEC titles but also only I think 4 appearances (USC 1 and Ark I think 3). So saying they make a run every few years, that really must be a big few years between. Of course, USC likes to win early and self destruct later on.

                              The SEC is a top heavy league that has a real good medium and then the very low (Vandy more than often). I don't think the SEC would add Mizzou, because I honestly would seen them in the Vandy/Ole Miss category (has some good years) than the South Carolina/Arkansas area (always a game or two away from the top).

                              You have LSU, Bama and UF usually around the top. Then when they faulter, teams like UGA, Arky, USC, AU who can jump in when one falters or they are already good enough to run with the top, while Miss St and UT are a few pieces away these days. Then you have the UK, Ole Miss, Vandy who can have some decent years, but can't sustain it.

                              Granted, the only team I'd like to see added to the SEC would be VT or UNC. If A&M joins I'd like to see VT in the East because I think they'd fit well. Only reason I say UNC is because I know UF/UGA/USC/UK don't want any other teams to join from their states and UNC has a potential to fit in.

                              I'd really like the SEC to keep it's "geographic" name, cause it's one of the only conferences that have a name that makes sense, unlike the two backward BIG's and now the Big East with TCU.
                              Virginia Tech is the one that makes the most sense but you have one serious problem with that choice, the Virginia Legislature. They got involved to make sure Virginia and Virginia Tech were in the same conference, they would do so again to block a Virginia Tech move leaving Virginia back in the ACC. The only way I see them not getting involved is if Virginia can get an invite from the B1G. That would be a big increase of funds for Virginia so both institutions would profit from the move thus the legislature would keep their hands out of it.

                              Otherwise, Florida State folks are not liking the northern additions to the ACC and are finally wanting to see Florida State move to a football conference. They are a more likely addition to the SEC than V Tech is unfortunately.

                              Scheduling 13 teams is a mess so they really do need to add another. Virginia Tech isnt an impossible add but it wont be easy, florida state is a building possibility and 20 million cost of moving will be easily paid back with the growing payouts to SEC institutions.

                              North Carolina wont leave the ACC because of the Duke/NC State/Wake Forest connection. Although I agree they would make for a decent addition opposite of Missouri should adding #15 and #16 become necessary.


                              Originally posted by superjames1992
                              Slive was at the LSU game tonight in Morgantown. Make of that what you will. It probably means nothing, but who knows?
                              The game was obviously one that found itself a judgement of whether or not WVU could possibly stand up for itself in the SEC. It faced one of the toughest SEC defenses ever. Luckily they got to face it at home. If they were down in Louisiana they probably wouldn't have scored a point without their raucous crowd pumping them up. Everyone there knew what was at stake.

                              Of course the official line would be that Slive was just there for the game of the week or whatever but he would be a poor commissioner if he WASNT using it as a judgement on WVU. WVU has a lot of negatives it brings with it. They needed to prove on the field that they bring a team that can compete or else they simply are not worth adding to the SEC.

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                              • TripleCrown9
                                Keep the Faith
                                • May 2010
                                • 23686

                                #1755
                                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                                Originally posted by Cusefan
                                I would assume he was there to watch the Game of the Week, mosh Commissioners will do that.
                                Hey! Don't you come in here with your logical reasoning and attempt to ruin the fun! Silve was there to rip Morgantown a new one, that party animal. Or to extend an invitation to WVU, which turned out to be a blank piece of paper in a prestigious envelope. As they stared in horror at what they received, The Undertaker's music sounded over the PA, they shut the lights off in the stadium, and Silve disappeared into the night, until next time, until next time...
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