Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[fsquid]

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IF the merger gets a BCS bid, it makes sense. If it doesn't get one, then it means nothing.

[Saturated Feline]

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TCU is already leaving, Boise wants to leave and the Big East looks like the likely destination. UCF going as well would make this merger worthless. The rest of the teams between the 2 conferences have made 1 BCS bowl combined, (Hawaii) so what would the appeal be for the BCS to give this mega-conference an automatic bid?

[Tovarich]

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TCU is already leaving, Boise wants to leave and the Big East looks like the likely destination. UCF going as well would make this merger worthless. The rest of the teams between the 2 conferences have made 1 BCS bowl combined, (Hawaii) so what would the appeal be for the BCS to give this mega-conference an automatic bid?

Yeah, I'm not envisioning an automatic bid for this. Maybe if the Big East got their taken away, that would make a difference. It could possibly help the winner get a BCS bowl by giving them an extra (hopefully) quality win late in the season. But if Boise State ends up beating an 8-4 CUSA team, that probably won't mean much.

Will the NCAA require them to balance the divisions? I don't know all the rules about divisions, but having them equal if possible-can't in odd numbered leagues, but you could here, would seem like a possible requirement. The 10 MWC schools could all play eachother, but I can see 2 CUSA teams not playing, then tying, and one getting screwed on some weird stupid 7th tiebreaker. If this doesn't get a BCS auto bid, it's probably completely pointless. I think the complex formula for deciding this stuff isn't going to be helped by putting Memphis, New Mexico, Wyoming, and Tulane all in one conference.

[TDenverFan]

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My guess is this ugly behomoth will end up like the WAC, splitting. Boise State, Hawaii, San Diego State, Fresno State, Nevada, Houston, UCF, SMU, Tulsa, USM, Air Force, and Colorado State would be a cool Football only conference. They could use the A-10 (UCF, USM), The Valley (Houston, SMU, Tulsa), WCC (Hawaii, SDSU, Fresno, Boise), and Summit League (Air Force, Colorado State, Nevada) for basketball.

[coogrfan]

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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7101780/big-east-sends-invites-five-schools-hike-exit-fee

NEW YORK -- If all goes according to plan, the Big East will end up replacing outgoing Pittsburgh, Syracuse and TCU with full-time members Houston, Southern Methodist and Central Florida, while adding Air Force and Boise State in football only.

According to a source with direct knowledge of Friday's Big East conference call, the conference has sent conditional invitations to Houston and SMU for all sports and Air Force and Boise State for football only. The Big East informed the four schools that if all four agree to join the Big East then the remaining schools would agree to an increase in the exit fee from $5 million to the $10 million range to show a commitment to the incoming schools. However, the six remaining football playing schools won't commit to raising the fee unless all four commit to joining the Big East in football with Houston and SMU joining in all sports.

Meanwhile, the Big East sent a separate all-sports invitation to UCF and are expecting the Knights to accept, the source said..

[SlimKibbles]

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My guess is this ugly behomoth will end up like the WAC, splitting. Boise State, Hawaii, San Diego State, Fresno State, Nevada, Houston, UCF, SMU, Tulsa, USM, Air Force, and Colorado State would be a cool Football only conference. They could use the A-10 (UCF, USM), The Valley (Houston, SMU, Tulsa), WCC (Hawaii, SDSU, Fresno, Boise), and Summit League (Air Force, Colorado State, Nevada) for basketball.

I doubt the A-10 will go to 16 teams. But, with the way things are going, who knows?

I guess I understand the thought process behind a giant merger like this because of the current landscape in college football but, I'm sorry, things have reached the point of insanity. The NCAA needs to put a max of 12 teams for conferences and be done with it. All of those big bad "bcs" conferences both old and new could still do their little tv networks and whatever else they need to do to make their ridiculous millions.

[Fredonia]

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I know that this is pretty much hoping against hope, but I'd like for Boise and Air Force to stay put and play in the MountAmerica or whatever they're gonna call it.

This is the BIG pipe-dream, that conference getting a BCS AutoBid...

[He1nousOne1]

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I know that this is pretty much hoping against hope, but I'd like for Boise and Air Force to stay put and play in the MountAmerica or whatever they're gonna call it.

This is the BIG pipe-dream, that conference getting a BCS AutoBid...

It's looking like BSU and Air Force might be turning down the BE. That would cause Navy to waver and the other C-USA teams seeing BSU maybe not go to the BE and instead going with the new Mountain West/C-USA merge would mean they might balk at leaving too.

If this blows up in the BE's face then they are done with football.

[Fredonia]

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I'm hoping that's the case, He1nous. To everything you just said.

[DonkeyJote]

TCU is already leaving, Boise wants to leave and the Big East looks like the likely destination. UCF going as well would make this merger worthless. The rest of the teams between the 2 conferences have made 1 BCS bowl combined, (Hawaii) so what would the appeal be for the BCS to give this mega-conference an automatic bid?

I don't think Boise wants to leave. The Big East wants them, but from what I've read, Boise doesn't seem so sure it's the right move.

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[He1nousOne1]

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I'm hoping that's the case, He1nous. To everything you just said.

There are alot of conflicting reports but it seems the C-USA/Mountain West merger went off because BSU and Air Force committed to it.

Out of all those invites it is quite possible only UCF accepts.

[K0ZZ]

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I'm honestly surprised the Big East ignored the MAC, Western and Central Michigan, Northern Illinois, Temple and Miami (OH) would all be solid squads to join, weak at first but they could compete. Not to mention it would give them a little bit more coverage into Big Ten territory. I don't know why they are only looking south.

Also, if SMU goes, Houston will go. But if Houston goes, it doesn't guarantee SMU goes.

If SMU gets into the Big 12 (preferred) they won't need this. They might hold out. Houston needs to jump on the offer though. Once Case Keenum graduates they are gonna fall and might not get a jump into the AQ.

[Polo Bandit]

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I'm honestly surprised the Big East ignored the MAC, Western and Central Michigan, Northern Illinois, Temple and Miami (OH) would all be solid squads to join, weak at first but they could compete. Not to mention it would give them a little bit more coverage into Big Ten territory. I don't know why they are only looking south.

Also, if SMU goes, Houston will go. But if Houston goes, it doesn't guarantee SMU goes.

If SMU gets into the Big 12 (preferred) they won't need this. They might hold out. Houston needs to jump on the offer though. Once Case Keenum graduates they are gonna fall and might not get a jump into the AQ.

Houston is gonna jump all over a Big East invite. Houston to Big 12 is probably never gonna happen and SMU is probably unlikely as well.

Keep in mind Keenum wasn't anywhere close to a top recruit coming out of high school. Given the situation he was thrown in, I thought Piland did ok last year. If he ends up being the starter next year I'm not too worried.

[Fredonia]

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I'm honestly surprised the Big East ignored the MAC, Western and Central Michigan, Northern Illinois, Temple and Miami (OH) would all be solid squads to join, weak at first but they could compete. Not to mention it would give them a little bit more coverage into Big Ten territory. I don't know why they are only looking south.

$$$ and TV markets.

[DonkeyJote]

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I'm honestly surprised the Big East ignored the MAC, Western and Central Michigan, Northern Illinois, Temple and Miami (OH) would all be solid squads to join, weak at first but they could compete. Not to mention it would give them a little bit more coverage into Big Ten territory. I don't know why they are only looking south.

Also, if SMU goes, Houston will go. But if Houston goes, it doesn't guarantee SMU goes.

If SMU gets into the Big 12 (preferred) they won't need this. They might hold out. Houston needs to jump on the offer though. Once Case Keenum graduates they are gonna fall and might not get a jump into the AQ.

Because SMU and Houston are both in major media markets, in a recruiting hotbed, and have strong tradition. Both are schools that could do better than any MAC school. And UCF may be the biggest no brainer of them all - they've only been in FBS for 16 years now, and they've done very well for themselves. They have a stadium about 15,000 larger than any of those other schools you mentioned, and are in Orlando, FL, another recruiting hotbed. And if I'm not mistaken, they aren't bad at basketball either. Nor is Houston. Imo, those three schools are all better fits market-wise, football-wise, basketball-wise, and money-wise.

I'm seeing that Air Force soured on the Big East when Army said no, and Navy didn't seem too sure of it. I think that was going to be an all-three or nothing type of situation. I'm not even sure if the Conf USA schools would say yes, with the possibility that West Virginia, Louisville, Connecticut, and Rutgers could all hightail it at some point as well.