Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[cdawg44]

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This is an interesting blast from the past.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...85/1/index.htm

Real Nice find!!!

[T-Moar]

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This is an interesting blast from the past.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...85/1/index.htm

The funniest part of that was where they implied that the B1G would change names after going to 11 teams.

[Perfect Zero]

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I just bought a used beanbag chair, so I'd say I have great foresight!

What a wild article.

[cdawg44]

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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21292915/big-east-deal-could-be-worth-as-little-as-60-million-per-year

CBS Sports is reporting the Big East media rights deal will be worth between 60-80 million. The Basketball schools will more than likely have to take a pay cut from the current 1.5 million a year they get of tv money to 1.1 to 1.4 million. The Full members including Houston and Memphis would get 4-5 million a year.

This along with the additon of Tulane is leading to the possible break away of the Big East basketball schools.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8735330/big-east-direction-concerns-conference-catholic-schools-sources-say

[dickey1331]

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This Tulane thing is Media Bull****. The basketball schools voted Tulane in. They also wont get anywhere near the amount of TV money if they break away.

[Pmoney327]

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I hope the league dissolves, it would be nice for Rutgers to get out without paying a penny.

Hell, the rest of the schools are still waiting for their share of the exit $$$ promised from WVU, Pitt, Cuse, TCU.

[cdawg44]

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This Tulane thing is Media Bull****. The basketball schools voted Tulane in. They also wont get anywhere near the amount of TV money if they break away.

It doesn't matter at this point. These schools will go backwards on money earned once the new tv deal comes in. They would be better off if they left and joined up with some of the A10 schools and probably make a little more than they are now. When the Big East turned down that tv deal in the Summer of 2011 where they would have been close to the ACC deal, they sealed their own fate. The catholic schools figure if they break off and let the football schools do what they want at this point they can regain some leverage for themselves.

These schools get no access to the football money and are losing value on the basketball part of the deal now that WVU, Syracuse, Pitt and Notre Dame have all annouced they are leaving the league. On top of that even if they got some of the football money that was planned; Boise State, Houston, USF and UCF Football can't alone can't make up the difference of what they would have made 2 years ago with fewer schools to share the pot with. That value has been cut in 1/2 with 20 people now to share the money with.

When it comes to Tulane, once your conference commish settles on expansion targets, more times than not the schools roll with it. UNC and Duke truly wanted UCONN in, but the ACC office in Greensboro settled on Louisville and they were admitted. I'm sure they were "No votes" on Tulane unofficially, but were Yes votes officially because no league annouces that a school joined the league with a bunch of no votes. That totally decreases that school's credibility once it joins and make it unstable in that new league.

[Cusefan]

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It doesn't matter at this point. These schools will go backwards on money earned once the new tv deal comes in. They would be better off if they left and joined up with some of the A10 schools and probably make a little more than they are now. When the Big East turned down that tv deal in the Summer of 2011 where they would have been close to the ACC deal, they sealed their own fate. The catholic schools figure if they break off and let the football schools do what they want at this point they can regain some leverage for themselves.

These schools get no access to the football money and are losing value on the basketball part of the deal now that WVU, Syracuse, Pitt and Notre Dame have all annouced they are leaving the league. On top of that even if they got some of the football money that was planned; Boise State, Houston, USF and UCF Football can't alone can't make up the difference of what they would have made 2 years ago with fewer schools to share the pot with. That value has been cut in 1/2 with 20 people now to share the money with.

When it comes to Tulane, once your conference commish settles on expansion targets, more times than not the schools roll with it. UNC and Duke truly wanted UCONN in, but the ACC office in Greensboro settled on Louisville and they were admitted. I'm sure they were "No votes" on Tulane unofficially, but were Yes votes officially because no league annouces that a school joined the league with a bunch of no votes. That totally decreases that school's credibility once it joins and make it unstable in that new league.

I said something similar in the basketball thread of this but you really said it better. It's going to suck that the BE is all but a distant memory but this is evolution I suppose.

[bwburke94]

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Big East is pretty close to dying right now. A-10 apparently picking up the Catholic b-ball schools if they leave. That would make them the A-21.

[ehh]

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There's no incentive for those schools to join the A-10, they'll start fresh and poach a few schools for a 12 team league - like most reports are indicating. The A-10 TV deal pays something like $400k annually, the projected Catholic league would be around $1M.

[DonkeyJote]

There's no incentive for those schools to join the A-10, they'll start fresh and poach a few schools for a 12 team league - like most reports are indicating. The A-10 TV deal pays something like $400k annually, the projected Catholic league would be around $1M.

They're thinking of making a national catholic league. Getting Gonzaga, Creighton, et.

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[ehh]

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They're thinking of making a national catholic league. Getting Gonzaga, Creighton, et.

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That's only a rumor, Gonzaga travelling all their sports to the East cost regularly isn't going to happen. Realistically, Creighton is as far west as they'll go.

The Catholic 7 isn't doing this solely for financial reasons, they want a normal conference again with a reasonable geographic spread.

[dickey1331]

That's only a rumor, Gonzaga travelling all their sports to the East cost regularly isn't going to happen. Realistically, Creighton is as far west as they'll go.

The Catholic 7 isn't doing this solely for financial reasons, they want a normal conference again with a reasonable geographic spread.

It's also for all sports and would be a pain for Gonzaga.


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[cdawg44]

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It's also for all sports and would be a pain for Gonzaga.


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Gonzaga and Saint Mary's would only be for basketball even if they got an invite which I doubt. They have plenty of good catholic squads to choose from including Xavier, Butler and others.

[DonkeyJote]

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It's also for all sports and would be a pain for Gonzaga.


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I don't see why it'd be that much of a pain. Gonzaga is already pretty isolated as it is. And with today's age of most sports flying everywhere, I don't see why it makes a huge difference.

I did all the math. The average cost of a commercial flight from Spokane, WA to the 8 other WCC schools is $346. The average cost in the rumored 13 team Catholic Conference would be $449. That's per Expedia, so we're talking commercial flights, out of a fairly remote Airport. So, it's an imperfect science, obviously. I'm just trying to get a ballpark here. So this new conference would cost 29% more, travel-wise (again, very imprecise, but the concept is still there).

Now I'm not sure how much a WCC team gets. But a Forbes article about a year and a half ago (3/2011) has WCC basketball revenue at just $2.2 million per school. Basically, if a 13 team national Catholic Conference could get the same approximate revenue as the Missouri Valley Conference ($2.8m), it could offset Gonzaga's travel cost increase. And this conference would be likely to get more than that. I think they could get more than the Mountain West ($3.8m) or A-10 ($4m). The next team on the list was the Pac 10 at $8m, but I'm pretty sure they're doing more now.