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  • MrOctober430
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    • May 2005
    • 1694

    #3601
    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

    MWC looking pretty good right about now.

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    • T-Moar
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      • Jul 2010
      • 427

      #3602
      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

      Originally posted by MrOctober430
      MWC looking pretty good right about now.
      You said the same thing about C-USA about a page ago.
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      • Cusefan
        Earlwolfx on XBL
        • Oct 2003
        • 9820

        #3603
        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

        Report: Big 12 looking to partner up with ACC, two other leagues
        The Big 12 is looking into a possible alliance with the ACC and two other unidentified leagues that could affect scheduling, marketing and maybe even television contracts among the member schools, according to Kirk Bohls of the Austin American-Statesman.

        One of the byproducts of such a move is that it could put a halt to further expansion by the leagues.


        "We've had conversations with three other leagues," Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby told the American-Statesman on Friday afternoon. "The ACC is one of them. It's a process of discovery that would provide some of the benefits of larger membership without actually adding members."

        Bowlsby declined to name the other two leagues, but the Pac-12 Conference is presumed to be one of them because that 12-team league is landlocked with the Big 12 to its east, which makes Pac-12 expansion with like major-college institutions more geographically prohibitive.

        Bowlsby stressed that nothing is imminent -- "It's purely exploratory," he said -- but that further discussions would take place at conference athletic director meetings beginning next Monday.

        With just one more year of the BCS to go and a four-team playoff of some sorts coming down the pike, this is just another example of how the major conferences are jockeying to get into position to make as much money as possible without actually expanding.

        Could we see the rest of the conferences following suit with their own alliances? Will the SEC and the Big Ten align with another league to square off against the Pac-12, ACC and Big-12 for future supremacy?

        Stay tuned.

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        • p_rushing
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2004
          • 14514

          #3604
          Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

          This is going to be the end of the NCAA.

          The conferences will "join" and if you get the ACC, Big 12, and PAC 12, you have a lot of top teams, huge markets, and could command a bunch of money from ESPN, FOX, or NBC. The NCAA would have nothing left at this point. Those 3 conferences could say we are leaving, have fun SEC and Big Ten.

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          • Perfect Zero
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            • Jun 2005
            • 4012

            #3605
            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

            So it's really happening... can't say that I'm surprised. The ACC better count their lucky stars though if they are a part of this.
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            • Bmore Irish
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              • Jul 2011
              • 3461

              #3606
              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

              Originally posted by Cusefan
              And so it begins...

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              • lonewolf371
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                • Aug 2009
                • 3420

                #3607
                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                Originally posted by Cusefan
                The SEC and Big Ten would still have comparable bargaining power. Of the 11 schools that are part of the $100 million revenue club, nine are in the SEC and Big Ten. With the Big Ten's move east both of those conferences are also situated in growing areas of the country.

                Now if we're talking SEC-Big 12-ACC-Pac-12 then I could see the Big Ten being pulled along.
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                • cdawg44
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                  • May 2003
                  • 2936

                  #3608
                  Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                  Originally posted by p_rushing
                  This is going to be the end of the NCAA.

                  The conferences will "join" and if you get the ACC, Big 12, and PAC 12, you have a lot of top teams, huge markets, and could command a bunch of money from ESPN, FOX, or NBC. The NCAA would have nothing left at this point. Those 3 conferences could say we are leaving, have fun SEC and Big Ten.
                  The end of the NCAA.... I'm totally on board with that. With the Miami and Shabazz Muhammed fiascos, the NCAA has proven how much of a joke they are. Look the NCAA is great at organizing tournaments and championships and that's about it. With Football and Men's Basketball, they are just in way too over their heads to handle the explosion of revenue over the past 30 years since the Oklahoma lawsuit.

                  These schools need to break off Football and Men's Basketball from the NCAA and align however they see fit, generate the revenue, then organize a separate body that only polices those two sports for the schools. Drop this bull crap belief of amatuerism and move on.

                  The NCAA can still do whatever it needs to with the rest of the sports, organize the championships and have whatever rules necessary going forward.

                  All of the big 5 leagues have something to gain by ending realignment asap. The ACC knows its next up to be picked apart, the Pac-12 can't get the schools it wants, the Big 12 has NO interest in expanding because the crazy amount of TV money per school they are getting (26 million for each school) that many agree is overvalued and will only go down with expansion, and the SEC isn't that interested is expansion unless its Va Tech/UVA and North Carolina for their network coming in 2014. The only league that is really being aggressive is the B1G, but would like stabilty long term too.
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                  • Kaiser Wilhelm
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                    • Sep 2010
                    • 2790

                    #3609
                    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                    The collapse of the NCAA would be the final nail in the coffin of these teams being college teams based on student athletes, and semi-pro football teams.

                    In the hypothetical collapse of the NCAA would players even be required to be students as well? Would recruiting actually be recruiting, or unrestricted free agency? What separates a non-amateur college league from the NFL?
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                    • p_rushing
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                      • Feb 2004
                      • 14514

                      #3610
                      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                      Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                      The collapse of the NCAA would be the final nail in the coffin of these teams being college teams based on student athletes, and semi-pro football teams.

                      In the hypothetical collapse of the NCAA would players even be required to be students as well? Would recruiting actually be recruiting, or unrestricted free agency? What separates a non-amateur college league from the NFL?
                      None of that will change, what will change is where the money goes. The NCAA collects to much money and the conferences want all of it. Then you could also put a rule committee in place that was made up of all teams. That way there isn't a just a few and they can protect their schools.

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                      • Cusefan
                        Earlwolfx on XBL
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 9820

                        #3611
                        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                        Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                        The collapse of the NCAA would be the final nail in the coffin of these teams being college teams based on student athletes, and semi-pro football teams.

                        In the hypothetical collapse of the NCAA would players even be required to be students as well? Would recruiting actually be recruiting, or unrestricted free agency? What separates a non-amateur college league from the NFL?
                        Im not sure why you believe this, The NCAA is kind of like Roger Goodell, they work for the owners(colleges). Colleges do not want to pay players since that is less money for them so why would the governing bodey that replaces the NCAA suddenly allow pay for play? The NCAA will still exist but for big time programs, new rules will apply.
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                        • superjames1992
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                          • Jun 2007
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                          #3612
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                          It's a damn shame that this is going to destroy college basketball.
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                          • Jr.
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                            • Feb 2003
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                            #3613
                            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                            Originally posted by superjames1992
                            It's a damn shame that this is going to destroy college basketball.
                            I don't think it will. I think the NCAA will remain around to run basketball and the Olympic sports, but football will be run separate from the NCAA.

                            I don't know how exactly it will work, but I'm sure the college presidents will figure it out.
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                            • superjames1992
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                              #3614
                              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                              Originally posted by Baughn3
                              I don't think it will. I think the NCAA will remain around to run basketball and the Olympic sports, but football will be run separate from the NCAA.

                              I don't know how exactly it will work, but I'm sure the college presidents will figure it out.
                              I just don't want to see the NCAA Tournament ruined because of this BS.
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                              • cdawg44
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                                • May 2003
                                • 2936

                                #3615
                                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                                Originally posted by superjames1992
                                I just don't want to see the NCAA Tournament ruined because of this BS.
                                I think in the end, basketball ends up staying with the NCAA and they run the tourny.

                                Football is just driving too much revenue and is just too huge for the NCAA to manage as well. I think the big 5 leagues do their own thing in football and establish a new rules body and start over with maybe the MWC and Big East. This allows them to address stepinds, recruiting rules and Title IX issues outside of the NCAA. I Think we see coast to coast leagues for football only while the traditional SEC, ACC, Big 12 return for the remainder of the sports.
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