Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[choadler]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

I'm sorry if Facts get in the way of your argument, but that doesn't change them.

Where did I say UT should have offered A&M a piece of the ESPN deal?
All I said was that the deal offered to A&M did not include ESPN, and to say A&M was shortsighted in not accepting it is STUPID!

That's like me winning the lottery last year and saying that you were shortsighted for not splitting that ticket I offered to split with you 4 yrs ago.

Actually, it isn't like that at all. It is more like someone has an invention asks someone to go in on it, but they will have to come up with some of their capital to make it work. The other person says no. Eventually an investor comes in and gives them the money to make it happen. The other guy comes back and says hey is it to late to get in on this.

Dude, you are way overthinking this. Just give up.

[choadler]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

What Arkansas does have is this: by being a member of the SEC, the Hogs can be absolutely certain that when the era of the Superconferences does come to pass they will have a seat at the adult's table. Can any school in the Big XII other than UT/OU make that claim?

Yes, Mizzou and Oklahoma St, will have spots in a conference realignment. Who cares about the rest, just like no one cares about the bottom tier of the SEC.

[choadler]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

Yes UT has in fact hand cuffed themselves to ESPN, in the form of a 20 yr $300 million dollar contract. The parrameters of the Network are very clearly explained in the contract, and in almost all instances they require both UT's and ESPN's approval to be changed.
Do you realy think that ESPN is going to let UT decide what happens with the LHN in regards to conference realignment without ESPN's approval?
I did not say that ESPN controls UT's moves, but the structure of the LHN will not change for UT to go to a different conference unless ESPN allows it to. I don't need inside information to see that. UT does not own the network, ESPN does.
UT will not only have to negotiate with the other conferences on what they will allow the LHN to be, but also with ESPN.

Tell me where I said the Texas wouldn't have to negotiate around what the LHN would become if they moved. I simply stated that if the Longhorns wanted to go to the PAC 12, ESPN will not be able to stop that. If that forces a change to the LHN or splitting of that revenue with other schools then that might have to happen.

[Td1984]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

Once somebody else leaves, I think that'll signal UT that it's time to go. They just don't want the death of the Big XII on their hands. That was already the case with the old SWC.

http://www.statesman.com/sports/longhorns/one-more-move-and-big-12-is-over-1809134.html?cxtype=rss_longhorns

[gerg1234]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

Oklahoma is now discussing whether or not to stay in the Big Xii according to ESPN just now.

[ZB9]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

That was already the case with the old SWC.

lol of course everything is UT's fault absolutely everything

[Td1984]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

lol of course everything is UT's fault absolutely everything

I'm not hating on the Longhorns (that wouldn't make sense given my sig). Conferences die, Arkansas' leaving for the SEC probably had more to do with it than anything else. I was only 11 when it happened and since I don't live in Texas, I don't really remember anything about it.

[dickey1331]

I'm not hating on the Longhorns (that wouldn't make sense given my sig). Conferences die, Arkansas' leaving for the SEC probably had more to do with it than anything else. I was only 11 when it happened and since I don't live in Texas, I don't really remember anything about it.

I always thought corruption was a major factor. I don't really remember much so I don't know.


Do you really care where I sent this from?

[TheGamingChef]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

I'm about ready to stick a fork in this conference. A&M to the SEC, UT/TTU/OU/OSU to the Pac-16, and BU/KU/KSU/ISU to the Big East. Mizzou being the only question mark - they'll jockey to get into the SEC or Big Ten but have the Big East to fall back on if they need it.

Once those dominoes fall, the Big Ten and SEC will take who they want to get to 16, then the ACC will do the same raiding the Big East, and best case scenario (at least for me as an ISU fan) is that the Big East is able to do the same with quality mid-majors (along the lines of ECU and UCF) and manage to stick around with the other superconferences. This is assuming they all stop at 16... I have seen 18 and even 20-team superconference predictions.

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[chia51]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

I'm about ready to stick a fork in this conference. A&M to the SEC, UT/TTU/OU/OSU to the Pac-16, and BU/KU/KSU/ISU to the Big East. Mizzou being the only question mark - they'll jockey to get into the SEC or Big Ten but have the Big East to fall back on if they need it.

Once those dominoes fall, the Big Ten and SEC will take who they want to get to 16, then the ACC will do the same raiding the Big East, and best case scenario (at least for me as an ISU fan) is that the Big East is able to do the same with quality mid-majors (along the lines of ECU and UCF) and manage to stick around with the other superconferences. This is assuming they all stop at 16... I have seen 18 and even 20-team superconference predictions.

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Ehhh... I think the Big 12 is trying to bluff the SEC into not accepting A&M's application.

What this 'insider' said was that if A&M gets accepted, then the Big 12 is ready to sue if (IF) Oklahoma and Texas jump over to the Pac 12. By trying to say that the SEC and A&M interfered with the Big 12.

What a load of crock, to me it sounds like Texas/OU (with the Big 12 in the background) is trying to save face by saying, fine if everyone wants to leave... than so do I. By doing this it's almost like 'self exploding' the Big 12, and therefore making everyone think, "what the hell are we doing", giving Texas/OU and the Big 12 just that much more time to talk to everyone involved and try to get a deal done.

I do think that if A&M applies they will get accepted and then the ball falls back to Texas/OU/Big 12 Front office. It'd be interesting if they follow through with the lawsuit.

Also you have the possibility of OU jumping with OSU to the Pac 12 before Texas, leaving them hanging by themselves in the Big 12.

[coogrfan]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

lol of course everything is UT's fault absolutely everything

Pretty much.

[DonkeyJote]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

I think you're crazy if you think Iowa St. is going to the Big East. What does that program possibly bring to the table that they would want? I think them going to the Mountain West is far more likely.

I have one question. If conferences can sue other conferences for "intefearing", then how come the Pac 12, Big Ten, and Mountain West haven't all gotten sued? Especially the Mountain West - they pilfered Boise St., Hawaii, Fresno St., and Nevada from the WAC. If anyone has ever had a case that their conference was gutted by another, it's the WAC.

[TheGamingChef]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

I think you're crazy if you think Iowa St. is going to the Big East. What does that program possibly bring to the table that they would want? I think them going to the Mountain West is far more likely.

You can say this as much as you want but it doesn't make it any more true. Iowa State is clearly an attractive option for the Big East and this was proven as such last summer when a standing offer was on the table for not only ISU but KU/KSU/Mizzou as well.

*215,000+ living graduates
*29,000 students
*Roughly 50,000 average football attendance
*14,000+ seat basketball arena filled near capacity
*AAU membership
*New market of 3 million potential TV viewers
*An athletic budget that would rank roughly average compared to current Big East members

If you don't see the attractiveness of this university, the Big East should consider itself lucky you aren't running it.

I get that ISU is far from an ideal candidate especially for a conference like the Big Ten, but to dismiss them from consideration in the Big East couldn't be more idiotic.

[Cusefan]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

My Prediction:

A&M to the SEC(duh)

Oklahoma and OK St. leave for the left coast or OK to the SEC

Kansas, Kansas St, Mizzou to the Big East

Big East basketball schools break away due to the fact that the football schools are not going to want to split any TV money evenly.

[TDenverFan]

Re: A&M to the SEC starting to blow up again on Twitter

My Prediction:

A&M to the SEC(duh)

Oklahoma and OK St. leave for the left coast or OK to the SEC

Kansas, Kansas St, Mizzou to the Big East

Big East basketball schools break away due to the fact that the football schools are not going to want to split any TV money evenly.

What about Tech, Baylor, ISU, and Texas? I see Tech as a possible SEC candidate. Baylor and ISU I believe are going to the MWC, and Texas will go indy.