Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[OSUFan_88]

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Why care about history or tradition?

Those things are pretty worthless. Outside of rivalries, which shouldn't be destroyed by the super conferences, history and tradition to a conference means nothing.

I love the idea of super conferences.

[untrugby]

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Pat Forde wrote an article yesterday about the current state of the Big XII. In it he made a point that imo is equally applicable to the state of cfb as a whole:

Nobody is looking out for the common good. Nobody is in charge. Those with the most juice are exerting it solely on their own behalf, with disregard for all that is unique in college sports: tradition, geographic sense, nonrevenue sports, collegiality, regional flavor.

Imo the so-called superconferences, cobbled together with no regard to history, tradition or geography, will be the worst thing that has ever happened to the sport. Don't be surprised if 10 years from now the avg. sports fan views cfb as nothing more than minor league pro football with bands...

Tradition is why we dont have a playoff, tradition is why we have post seasons games like the "Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl" If you dont have all this jealousy you could have the super conferences and keep some of the tradition.

[coogrfan]

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Why care about history or tradition?

Because history, tradition and regional rivalries are what make cfb unique, without them you have nothing more than a pale imitation of the NFL.

Those things are pretty worthless. Outside of rivalries, which shouldn't be destroyed by the super conferences, history and tradition to a conference means nothing.

Texas and TAMU competed with Rice, SMU and TCU for 80+ years until the formation of the Big XII. OU-Nebraska, a series that goes back almost 100 years, appears to be finished. When TAMU heads to the SEC a series that began in 1894 will in all probability come to an end.

Super conferences? I fail to see what's so damn "super" about them.

I love the idea of super conferences.

Then I would submit that you don't understand what college athletics is all about, and most likely you never will.

[Bondgirl0072]

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After thinking about this a lot, I'm proud Baylor is standing up for what it believes in. I know A&M is pissed as I would expect them to be, but their reasoning for going to the SEC was "it's in our best interest."

Well Baylor is doing what is in "it's best interest," and for the most part I think it's in the best interest of the entire college athletic landscape.

I agree. I don't want to see the super-conferences either.

As for what does Baylor hope to accomplish from all of this?

1. Financial compensation from A&M or SEC if the conference disbands because of tortious interference
2. The rest of the Big XII holding together
3. Publicity

If A&M leaves the Big XII and it all falls apart, at least it'd be nice to have a new football stadium with that money A&M would send us. But in the meantime, I really enjoy playing the Midwest Big XII universities. Especially in basketball.

Most Baylor fans would be ok with A&M leaving the Big XII if it meant the rest of the conference stayed together. We're not big fan of aggys, no one really is (ask UT), and the SEC will soon see why.

Be very careful what you wish for SEC.

What? The SEC did not interfere in Big 12 business at all. A&M left first then the SEC invited them. Nobody can stop A&M from leaving.

[Bondgirl0072]

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Arkansas was approached by the Big 12: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...roached-big-12

The SEC can use this against the Big 12. Now this is interference.

[coogrfan]

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http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/08/13/texas-ams-move-to-sec-evidence-of-ncaas-lost-mission/

"Tradition is gone. Perspective is gone. Any sense of tradition, doing what’s right or maintaining some semblance of the fabric of what has made college athletics so great and unique has been obliterated by the potential of the next TV deal."

"There is no common good in college football, any more than there is in boxing. There are only independent contractors — college presidents, athletic directors, conference commissioners, bowl pooh-bahs — scrambling to fill their own pockets. Squint, and they all look like Don King."

[OSUFan_88]

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Then I would submit that you don't understand what college athletics is all about, and most likely you never will.

The only people who want to think that college athletics are all about history and tradition are the same people who want to fool themselves into thinking cheating doesn't happen.

College athletics first and foremost goal is to make money for the university. And then entertainment.

BTW, why are the rivalries ruined? If they were so strong to begin with, then why doesn't Nebraska schedule Oklahoma out of conference? Simply put, I don't think they care about tradition and history like the fans sometimes do. And rightfully so.

[sportznut02]

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Because history, tradition and regional rivalries are what make cfb unique, without them you have nothing more than a pale imitation of the NFL.



Texas and TAMU competed with Rice, SMU and TCU for 80+ years until the formation of the Big XII. OU-Nebraska, a series that goes back almost 100 years, appears to be finished. When TAMU heads to the SEC a series that began in 1894 will in all probability come to an end.

Super conferences? I fail to see what's so damn "super" about them.
Then I would submit that you don't understand what college athletics is all about, and most likely you never will.

The tradition and the history of a lot of these games is what makes College Football so great. I don`t want it becoming like the NFL at all. I want it different and unique. I want the rivalries and I still want all of the bowl games. I don`t ever want a playoff in College Football. I want to see TCU knock off Oklahoma and Boise State over Georgia or Fresno State hang with a #1 USC team to the final minutes.

[untrugby]

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BTW, why are the rivalries ruined? If they were so strong to begin with, then why doesn't Nebraska schedule Oklahoma out of conference?

because then Nebraska would have to play a top team every year in addition to a big 10 schedule and have little chance at the NC because of the way the polls and BCS works. Wait one tradition destroys another tradition? oh the sweet, sweet, tragic irony

[OSUFan_88]

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because then Nebraska would have to play a top team every year in addition to a big 10 schedule and have little chance at the NC because of the way the polls and BCS works. Wait one tradition destroys another tradition? oh the sweet, sweet, tragic irony

If the tradition was so strong in the first place, both teams would have signed up for it, not ignore it in the chase for a NC.

Just saying...you guys can keep fooling yourself into this tradition nonsense if you want, but schools, coaches and players don't give a damn about it. Unless it fools people into buying merchandise.

[jasonw2]

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heard Texas and the B1G were talking last night

[untrugby]

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The tradition and the history of a lot of these games is what makes College Football so great. I don`t want it becoming like the NFL at all. I want it different and unique. I want the rivalries and I still want all of the bowl games. I don`t ever want a playoff in College Football. I want to see TCU knock off Oklahoma and Boise State over Georgia or Fresno State hang with a #1 USC team to the final minutes.

what are you talking about, TCU-OU, BSU-UGA, or USC-Fresno would never take place under the old tradition of college football. also having a playoff doesnt mean you have to get rid of the bowls The bcs is already 5 games add in the cotton bowl and one 2 others and you have 7 bowls for an 8 team playoff and the rest of the teams can play the rest of the bowls as they are.

[nortobc]

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Imo the so-called superconferences, cobbled together with no regard to history, tradition or geography, will be the worst thing that has ever happened to the sport. Don't be surprised if 10 years from now the avg. sports fan views cfb as nothing more than minor league pro football with bands...

LOL...whatever. College football will always be king in the south...ALWAYS.

[Brandwin]

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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketb...ig_east_090811

Baylor certainly doesn’t have any reason to do any favors for Texas A&M. Still, the Bears aren’t the ones stopping the Aggies from joining the SEC. The SEC – not Baylor or the Big 12 – is the party that imposed the stipulation regarding litigation rights. The SEC is free to lift it anytime, which would pave the way for the Aggies to change conferences.

Looking out for its financial interests wasn’t Baylor’s only motivation Wednesday. Even though the likelihood of a Big East invite exists, the truth is Baylor covets its spot in the Big 12. It doesn’t want to end up in the Big East or another conference. The Bears can see the absurdity the situation would create. By delaying the process for another week or two, they hope other schools, including the linchpin, Oklahoma, will come to that realization, too.

Baylor and its allies hope Oklahoma thinks of the traditions and rivalries lost and the economic impact for fans the end of the Big 12 would bring. If the Sooners head to the Pac-12, then the Big 12 is likely dead. On the flip side, Oklahoma could save the league by reaffirming its allegiance

[Cardot]

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The bcs is already 5 games add in the cotton bowl and one 2 others and you have 7 bowls for an 8 team playoff and the rest of the teams can play the rest of the bowls as they are.

Or just have the playoffs first, and then all the teams, winners and losers go on to the traditional bowls. That is what we have today. We have 1 championship game, and the rest are consolation bowls. The SEC championship game is currently a psuedo playoff game, and the loser still goes on to a Bowl.